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Postby DeathbyDinn on November 20th, 2013, 5:22 pm
Coaster Crew interviewed Hank and Alan from RMC about Goliath.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NUHOl23XKs

Most of the talk is just about the design of the ride so nothing we don't already know, but Hank said it should go vertical the week after thanksgiving, topped off over winter and will hopefully open in "early spring."
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Postby CoasterMike on November 21st, 2013, 9:02 am
As Hank mentioned in the video, they are going to put the footers on the ground before they start building the ride. This will hopefully speed up the construction process so Goliath will be ready for opening day.
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Postby Viper 88 on November 21st, 2013, 5:37 pm
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Postby Viper 88 on November 21st, 2013, 5:39 pm
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Postby AirTimeDaz on November 21st, 2013, 6:00 pm
Viper 88 wrote:There was also this one:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BZh73w_IUAAmPOX.jpg



Why am I tempted to photoshop this pic of them going through the inverted zero-g stall? :lol:
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Postby BBH on November 21st, 2013, 10:43 pm
Padding on the shin bars. <<<<<<3
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Postby JimPanky on November 22nd, 2013, 3:58 pm
^O thank heaven!
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Postby CoasterCale on November 22nd, 2013, 5:24 pm
Long time reader, first time poster. I have been on some coasters that RMC has put topper track/ repair but Goliath will be the first true RMC coaster for me. I hope to go to Texas in Spring Break to ride both of the Iron Horses there. :D
BBH wrote:Padding on the shin bars. <<<<<<3

Is this a surprise?? I guess I thought that is how all of them are :roll:
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Postby BBH on November 22nd, 2013, 7:29 pm
CoasterCale wrote:Long time reader, first time poster. I have been on some coasters that RMC has put topper track/ repair but Goliath will be the first true RMC coaster for me. I hope to go to Texas in Spring Break to ride both of the Iron Horses there. :D
BBH wrote:Padding on the shin bars. <<<<<<3

Is this a surprise?? I guess I thought that is how all of them are :roll:

On Outlaw Run, the shin bars are unpadded and are really the only downside to the ride, which is fantastic on all fronts otherwise.

Outlaw's shin bars:

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Goliath's:

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Postby CoasterMike on November 22nd, 2013, 7:31 pm
Why is the front of the car/train tipped onto it's side like that?
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Postby CoasterCale on November 22nd, 2013, 7:42 pm
BBH wrote:
CoasterCale wrote:Long time reader, first time poster. I have been on some coasters that RMC has put topper track/ repair but Goliath will be the first true RMC coaster for me. I hope to go to Texas in Spring Break to ride both of the Iron Horses there. :D
BBH wrote:Padding on the shin bars. <<<<<<3

Is this a surprise?? I guess I thought that is how all of them are :roll:

On Outlaw Run, the shin bars are unpadded and are really the only downside to the ride, which is fantastic on all fronts otherwise.

Outlaw's shin bars:

Image

Goliath's:

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Postby BBH on November 22nd, 2013, 8:07 pm
CoasterMike wrote:Why is the front of the car/train tipped onto it's side like that?

Simply to illustrate how the train articulates.
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Postby JimPanky on November 22nd, 2013, 10:22 pm
The front clearly moves as if it is a separate car of the train. This was probably to make the front as large and epically awesome as they could which was necessary to nail the theming the way they did.
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Postby Sporlo on November 22nd, 2013, 10:53 pm
JimPanky wrote:This was probably to make the front as large and epically awesome as they could which was necessary to nail the theming the way they did.

Or maybe they did it so that the first set of passengers aren't taking the track changes directly. Also, the first axle provides support for the front of the train. This is the same concept used on Raging Bull with its first axle.
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Postby FParker185 on November 23rd, 2013, 4:17 pm
Yeah, that's just the 0 car. It's articulated only in one, sometimes 2 directions, there is always articulation on the Z axis so it can roll, some are set up to flex side to side to take flat turns, but it can never flex up and down in order to keep the rest of the cars in the train from falling forwards and kinda stumbling.

All trailered trains have one, though occasionally it's built into the front car(Arrow/Vekoma/PTC), and on B&M inverts and floorless (except for Aplengeist) they feature a row of seats on it.

If you can wrap your head around that, here's a good pic showing the lack of the one articulation, notice the gap between the 1'st and 2'nd row, then all the rest of the rows of the train, remember, inverts have seats on the 0 car (front car)

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also clearly visible on this pic...
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Postby Sporlo on November 23rd, 2013, 4:39 pm
^ Thanks, I learned something new about inverts today!
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Postby JimPanky on November 24th, 2013, 10:47 am
So the 0 car is always there. It's just that they used it here as an epic Chariot front.
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Postby Goliath72165 on November 24th, 2013, 12:55 pm
Those trains for Goliath are SWEET! Those are the coolest and best themed trains in the park.
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Postby CoasterMike on November 24th, 2013, 12:56 pm
Goliath72165 wrote:Those trains for Goliath are SWEET! Those are the coolest and best themed trains in the park.



Yes they are! :D
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Postby Goliath72165 on November 24th, 2013, 1:04 pm
Do any of you guys think that Goliath will be VERY underrated like X Flight? I just have a bad feeling that Goliath will get bad reviews. It seems like the one and only ride people like is Raging Bull. In my opinion, I think Raging Bull is overrated. I have been on all the B&M hyper coasters in America (Apollo's Chariot, Diamondback, Intimidator, Goliath @ SFOG, Raging Bull, and Nitro) and I got to tell you, Raging Bull is my least favorite out of all the other B&M hyper coasters.
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Postby CoasterMike on November 24th, 2013, 1:06 pm
Goliath72165 wrote:Do any of you guys think that Goliath will be VERY underrated like X Flight? I just have a bad feeling that Goliath will get bad reviews.



I do think it WILL be underrated however, I don't think it will be as underrated as X Flight. X Flight does have ALOT of negative reviews.
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Postby DeathbyDinn on November 24th, 2013, 1:31 pm
What I can see happening is people from the site will ride Goliath and say it's the most amazing thing ever, then other enthusiasts will ride it and say it's not as good and then people will say it's underrated. It happens on any fan website as people just aren't impartial on them.

That being said, I'm sure Goliath will find a spot within the top 15 wood coasters, but I don't think it's going to knock El Toro off it's thrown. People will definitely complain about it's length, but I don't think anyone will say it's a bad ride. So while I don't think people will praise it as much as the site will, it will still be one of the best wood coasters in the world and a very popular ride with enthusiasts and GP alike.
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Postby CoasterCale on November 24th, 2013, 2:30 pm
It seems like the GP just can't be pleased any more. Personally I like X-Flight. I think the GP just looks at coasters at other parks and says that's better than what I have. Sure, I would rather go on Gatekeeper or Nitro but I have X-Flight and Raging Bull practically in my backyard. They just don't appreciate what they have.
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Postby CoasterMike on November 24th, 2013, 3:04 pm
Even though Goliath will break an unprecedented three world records (steepest drop on a wooden roller coaster, fastest wooden roller coaster, and have the tallest drop) I still don't think people will like it that much. If I'm not mistaken (please correct me if I'm wrong) when ThemeParkReview rode X Flight when it opened, I don't think they liked it that much. I don't think TPR really likes any of our roller coasters at our park. That being said, I am starting to wonder what TPR will think of Goliath.
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Postby JimPanky on November 24th, 2013, 3:06 pm
I think Goliath actually will get the attention it deserves.
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