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Postby tillenterprises on July 20th, 2007, 11:54 am
cycamps wrote:Do you guys like Z-Force or Iron Wolf better? Though I never had a chance to ride it, it seemed pretty neat.


Z-Force was a great ride when it was new at Great America- it was so unique- like a wild mouse with upsidedown/sideways turns instead of hairpin ones. Too bad Magic Mountain let it fall into disrepair (now called "Flashback" at MM). To the best of my knowledge, it's the only coaster like it. I would love to ride it again. The best part was heading slowly across the top toward the first flip turn/drop!
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Postby cowboy1192 on July 20th, 2007, 6:07 pm
Is Flash Back going to ever operate anywhere else?
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Postby FParker185 on July 20th, 2007, 8:32 pm
it's possible, I think there were some rumblings that it may be relocated within the park, but it's in really bad shape and it'd take alot of $$ to get it back to operating condition, plus when it was open at SFMM it was very un popular, either due to it's wacky location or the sheer brutal ride it gave or both. I dont think SF will re use it. If they can sell it, more power to them, but I dont see parks climbing over one another to get ahold of it.
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Postby sfgam12321 on July 21st, 2007, 12:18 am
A. Fashback, i wish would come back to sfgam... Put it in Iron Wolfs place.
B. The best thing with wolf is theres like never a line.
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Postby cowboy1192 on July 21st, 2007, 3:58 pm
Does the GM of Great America have the power to remove a coaster, or is that in Shapiro's hands?
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Postby Dvo on July 23rd, 2007, 4:30 pm
^It's gotta be Shapiro's ultimate decision. Any installment/removal of a major attraction almost certainly goes to his approval.
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Postby cycamps on July 29th, 2007, 6:51 pm
Do you think if GAm had the ultimate decision that we would have a new one by now?
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Postby cycamps on July 31st, 2007, 11:07 pm
I think it would be nice if GAm had some sort of record breaker. Even though there isn't much room, look at the past record breaking coasters; and, to stay true to the thread, has IW broken any records before?
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Postby blueviola on August 1st, 2007, 8:33 am
Yeah, first stand-up coaster ever, though that really isn't record, more of a milestone.
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Postby sfgam1992 on August 1st, 2007, 11:07 am
I don't think it was the first ever. It was the first B&M and the tallest when it opened.
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Postby Galvan on August 1st, 2007, 1:15 pm
Iron Wolf holds the record for the most people complain about it on SFGAMWORLD.COM :lol:
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Postby Danhockey04 on August 1st, 2007, 2:01 pm
/\ I thought that could be Shockwave and the removal of Shockwave with some people.

No, IW was not the first stand-up, the first one was Dangai around 1982 at Thrill Vallley in Japan. IW was the first coaster designed by B&M with Gio manufacturing the supplies, as stated before.
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Postby cycamps on August 1st, 2007, 3:35 pm
Galvan316 wrote:Iron Wolf holds the record for the most people complain about it on SFGAMWORLD.COM :lol:

That pretty much explains it. :mrgreen:
Since Shockwave and IW were both rough, what do you think was the worst of the two?
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Postby SteveRestless on August 5th, 2007, 11:52 am
Shockwave wasn't rough! It just... built character.. Yeah... thats it.

Nah, I realize it must have been, since I've heard so many people (mostly girls with pierced ears actually) complain. But, I never had any problems. I'm tall, and I always had my head pushed back against the headrest and it never slammed around that much.

but then I'm fine on Iron Wolf too. :D
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Postby MollysMomma on August 5th, 2007, 2:13 pm
I never thought Shockwave was that rough either. The crazy batwing/boomerang element after the block maybe bumped you around a bit, and flying into the block was kind of hard on you. I miss it though...
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Postby cycamps on August 6th, 2007, 5:22 pm
I agree. It's too bad that GAm couldn't build S:UF without demolishing a ride. Shockwave was quite a sight to see. But, on the other hand, it was a pain to maintain.
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Postby !)EJAVU-FAN! on August 8th, 2007, 7:19 pm
cycamps wrote:I agree. It's too bad that GAm couldn't build S:UF without demolishing a ride. Shockwave was quite a sight to see. But, on the other hand, it was a pain to maintain.




HA. I love it..."pain to maintain"
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Postby rcoaster on August 8th, 2007, 9:53 pm
im sure that there were plenty of reasons to replace shock wave (but i loved that ride)... but back on topic, Iron Wolf is rough, but it still brings the thrill on! (Update: sorry for the bad grammar before... my wireless keyboard was running low on battery)
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Postby cowboy1192 on August 8th, 2007, 10:22 pm
^Good point, but, eh, go back to third grade and learn grammar before posting on a site.
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Postby rct2wizard360 on August 9th, 2007, 1:11 pm
Danhockey04 wrote: No, IW was not the first stand-up, the first one was Dangai around 1982 at Thrill Vallley in Japan.


If I recall, Dangai was not originally built as a Stand-Up coaster, and then Togo just made Stand-Up trains for it later on.
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Postby Danhockey04 on August 9th, 2007, 7:04 pm
/\ Well, I really don't know, all I know that Dangai is in Japan and was built first and is a stand up coaster now. :lol:
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Postby cycamps on August 9th, 2007, 11:14 pm
I thought that Iron Wolf was the first stand-up all along.
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Postby cycamps on August 9th, 2007, 11:21 pm
If GAm decided that they wanted to knock down a coaster to build another coaster on the same site, do you think that Iron Wolf would be the most likely canidate? Also, do you think that someday in the near future that American Eagle's life is in jeopardy?
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Postby Dmrbug on August 10th, 2007, 7:21 pm
^^ there is no way to know what SF will take out or leave in the park. I believe AE will be around for a long time. They have spent the last few years replacing track.
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Postby SheiKra13 on August 10th, 2007, 8:09 pm
I think the eagle and ironwolf are the hightest on the chopping block.
Eagle_getting old, not as exciting as some other rides
Iron wolf-starting to get rougher and harer to ride
i dont think theyll touch superman or bull for a while. if they take the whizzer down, well(remember 2002!) they wont mess with V2 or deja vu, no point, they dont take up a lot of room. and batman is still popular, so yeah, eagle and wolf, in my opinoin will be the first ones to get the saced, but i think they'll dispose of wolf first.
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