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Postby SIC COASTER on December 6th, 2005, 9:48 pm
Differn't elevation of land is an easy way for the clone to have to undergo alot of planing, resizing supports and footers and stuff like that.
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Postby msoeagle on December 6th, 2005, 10:16 pm
Its just not special. Didnt you feel different when you heard that raging bull was comign then when you heard suf was coming?
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Postby SIC COASTER on December 6th, 2005, 10:57 pm
Not really, I had never been on any other supermans that where the same as ours. Also most of the GP doesn't travel to as many parks as alot of people on this site do, which means the GP doesn't know about the other rides being the same or they really don't care.
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Postby Trailblazer Tony on December 7th, 2005, 12:05 am
What msoeagle and I have been trying to say is just that there is a certain feeling that is different when you get an original design than when you get a clone. Look at it this way, if Six Flags Magic Mountain had announced that they were adding Superman, Ultimate Flight next year as their new flying coaster, would you be as excited as you are with the announcement of Tatsu? That is the difference. Clones are great, but there is just that extra sense of excitement that is missing and that is all we are saying.

Also, as far as this work ethic into building clones versus building an original ride, there is a difference in work. Unless you can tell me that the IDENTICAL amount of work went into building Batman at our park versus building Batman in St. Louis, then there is a difference. Like I said, not a huge difference, but a noticable one.
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Postby Chitown on December 7th, 2005, 3:24 am
Let's put it this way:

Six Flags has more parks then any other park chain.
Clones don't matter to the average park goer because they don't know it's a clone.
All of Six Flags parks are regional parks which means they aren't destination parks.
Unless you are a well travelled enthusiast to many parks which makes up less than 1% of this business, why should companies care that they are putting in clones?

When you own 30 parks, you aren't going to customize every coaster you install, it's that simple.
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Postby rct2wizard360 on December 7th, 2005, 7:28 am
Trailblazer Tony wrote:Look at it this way, if Six Flags Magic Mountain had announced that they were adding Superman, Ultimate Flight next year as their new flying coaster, would you be as excited as you are with the announcement of Tatsu?


If they put it on the side of that hill I'd be excited...
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Postby Galvan on December 11th, 2005, 11:56 am
Why would i get all excited over a new ride thats 1,700 miles away?

I mean yeah that ride looks awesome, but am i excited? No
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Postby msoeagle on December 11th, 2005, 12:17 pm
Werent you able to visit sfot? Maybe you would get excited cause you were thinking abou going to sfmm.
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Postby Galvan on December 11th, 2005, 1:31 pm
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Okay, that really made no sense man. I dont understand what you are talking about.
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Postby rct2wizard360 on December 11th, 2005, 1:44 pm
I was excited over V2 and Deja Vu and they were clones.
When S:UF made it's debut I was exicted.
When Cajun made it's debut I was excited.

You can't put a point on clones because the reason they are cloned is because they are extremely successful and are a hit with the public. They clone them for a reason, and most of the time they aren't poopy.
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Postby FRD714 on December 11th, 2005, 2:50 pm
I dont have a problem with clones. As long as its a good ride, im fine with it.
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Postby w00dland on December 11th, 2005, 6:21 pm
You can't put a point on clones because the reason they are cloned is because they are extremely successful and are a hit with the public.


I disagree. My evidence:

HangNBangs.
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Postby mschulz5 on December 11th, 2005, 7:27 pm
The only logical reason I can think of that more than one park has a Vekoma Inverted is that Hang N' Bangs are actually a virus, and an epidemic broke out, and those parks that were unfortunate enough to catch the disease got them.

Or because they are cheap, either one.
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Postby msoeagle on December 11th, 2005, 7:47 pm
I just dont think clones are as good as originals. Im not saying their not good just not AS good.
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Postby FRD714 on December 11th, 2005, 8:07 pm
Clones do have improvments when there built.
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Postby Ilovthevu' on December 16th, 2005, 6:20 pm
Danhockey04 wrote:Technically Deja Vu is a clone, but I wouldn't include it cause it is the only consistent operating GIB (giant inverted boomerang) named Deja Vu, I dont know how Stunt Fall is doing.


I heard that D Vu' at SFOG was doing a consistent job this year. I know that it was doing a really bad before this year though.
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Postby FRD714 on December 16th, 2005, 6:33 pm
Maybe they are fixing problems with Vu each year and there making it better. Thats why they arent having as much downtime anymore.
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Postby SfgamFreak03 on December 21st, 2005, 1:58 am
msoeagle wrote:I just dont think clones are as good as originals. Im not saying their not good just not AS good.
How are they any differnt??? It's still a new coaster that you couldnt ride anything like it unless you took a trip 1/2 way across the country on your little 10 speed bike. Would you rather have a new coaster that is a clone or nothing at all???
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Postby Rusty888 on December 21st, 2005, 11:39 am
Speaking of going halfway across the country on a bike, I'm riding my bike to Ohio in 6 months, but it's for a wedding.

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Postby FRD714 on December 21st, 2005, 12:18 pm
Rusty888 wrote:Speaking of going halfway across the country on a bike, I'm riding my bike to Ohio in 6 months, but it's for a wedding.

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What!!!!? :shock:
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Postby Timmy179 on December 21st, 2005, 1:16 pm
FRD714 wrote:Maybe they are fixing problems with Vu each year and there making it better. Thats why they arent having as much downtime anymore.


How did you figure this one out
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Postby FRD714 on December 21st, 2005, 2:03 pm
Timmy179 wrote:
FRD714 wrote:Maybe they are fixing problems with Vu each year and there making it better. Thats why they arent having as much downtime anymore.


How did you figure this one out

uhhhhh..............i guessed.
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Postby DejaVuGurl1203 on December 21st, 2005, 2:11 pm
Well, it's pretty obvious they are trying to fix all the problems.
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Postby msoeagle on December 21st, 2005, 4:57 pm
SfgamFreak03 wrote:
msoeagle wrote:I just dont think clones are as good as originals. Im not saying their not good just not AS good.
How are they any differnt??? It's still a new coaster that you couldnt ride anything like it unless you took a trip 1/2 way across the country on your little 10 speed bike. Would you rather have a new coaster that is a clone or nothing at all???
You dont get the point, im not saying clones are bad, im saying its not as good as something original. Wouldnt you rather have gotten and original flying coaster than suf?
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