Clones

by **msoeagle** on December 2nd, 2005, 8:16 pm

Suf
V2
Dejavu

Past Clones:
Tidal Wave/Viper/Greezed Lightning

by **rct2wizard360** on December 2nd, 2005, 8:25 pm

You might want to change your list.

Demon is not a clone.

Some others:

-Medusa
-Vekoma Boomerangs
-Shuttle Loops

Unless your list is just SFGAm...it's fine, just lose Demon. And technically, Viper is not a clone, just relative.

by **msoeagle** on December 2nd, 2005, 8:26 pm

Paramounts Great America Demon, Its just sfgam.

by **rct2wizard360** on December 2nd, 2005, 9:55 pm

Correction, the first drop on PGA's Demon was never altered to a steepter angle as ours was.

by **msoeagle** on December 2nd, 2005, 10:02 pm

So that makes it not a clone?

by **FRD714** on December 2nd, 2005, 10:13 pm

^I think thats what he is saying, but its almost just like ours.

by **Chitown** on December 3rd, 2005, 1:19 am

You can take Batman off that list as well because SFGAm was the first to install it.

by **Timmy179** on December 3rd, 2005, 2:21 am

Batman is indeed not a clone, along with viper

by **msoeagle** on December 3rd, 2005, 9:41 am

Whizzer wouldnt be a clone because the other one was scrapped in the 80's right?

by **FRD714** on December 3rd, 2005, 10:03 am

^Nope, Whizzer is not a clone anymore.

by **v2guy13** on December 4th, 2005, 4:56 pm

viper IS a clone. it's the mirror image of coney islands CYCLONE.

by **Imeanbusiness** on December 4th, 2005, 7:16 pm

Its an altered clone....with many major differences. I see it as not a clone. If Viper is a clone than KindaKa is a clone of dragster, which they are comptly not. All the way down to the control panels they are different.

by **Danhockey04** on December 4th, 2005, 8:37 pm

Technically Deja Vu is a clone, but I wouldn't include it cause it is the only consistent operating GIB (giant inverted boomerang) named Deja Vu, I dont know how Stunt Fall is doing.

Viper is not a clone, it was designed and built by Six Flags Great America as a Cyclone coaster, but altered and only one with that layout, therefore, it is not a clone

by **Shockwavegirl** on December 5th, 2005, 9:50 pm

Demon was never a clone at SFGAm......it was in first, therefore the other one was a clone, not ours.......

by **msoeagle** on December 5th, 2005, 9:59 pm

I still count Deja Vu as a clone since others were made before it and it doesnt matter if the others are sbno or not.

by **Chitown** on December 6th, 2005, 6:30 am

msoeagle wrote:Past Clones:
Tidal Wave/Viper/Greezed Lightning

Don't you know the enthusiast way of describing this? It's "GreezedViperWave" :lol:

by **msoeagle** on December 6th, 2005, 8:08 am

Lol, what did they do with all the themeing when they removed it?

by **Galvan** on December 6th, 2005, 10:38 am

Whats is the big deal over clones?

Seriously does it really matter if the ride is somewhere else 2,000 miles away?

by **msoeagle** on December 6th, 2005, 4:39 pm

To me yeah. It determines how much sf cares about our park.

by **FRD714** on December 6th, 2005, 5:16 pm

It is nice to have a ride that only our park has like Raging Bull. Then our park would be known even more.

by **Galvan** on December 6th, 2005, 6:17 pm

msoeagle wrote:To me yeah. It determines how much sf cares about our park.

That makes really no sense....

Six Flags doesnt care about Great America because there are rides there that you can find at another park?

by **Trailblazer Tony** on December 6th, 2005, 6:25 pm

^I think what he is getting at is that when the new attraction is not a clone, the park tends to put more effort into making the ride different from others. It gives the park a more personalized look. That's at least how I feel about clones. When a park clones a ride, it kind of seems like they didn't want to spend any time planning out the ride.

by **Galvan** on December 6th, 2005, 6:28 pm

No planning?

Thats ridiculous.... Rollercoasters, clones or otherwise take tons of planning.

People who complain about clones in my opinion, are the same group of yahoos that complain about Scream being a "parking lot" coaster or something really stupid like that.

by **Trailblazer Tony** on December 6th, 2005, 7:59 pm

^First of all, people's opinions aren't stupid. Who are you to say what is normal to look for in a coaster.

Second of all, even putting in a new sidewalk takes planning, but obviously not as much. By building a clone, the track layout and all of the work that goes into making sure a design works is already taken care of. All of the ideas needed in creating a theming for the ride is taken care of. I did not say that it doesn't require work, it just requires a lot less work.

by **Galvan** on December 6th, 2005, 8:18 pm

Trailblazer Tony wrote:^First of all, people's opinions aren't stupid. Who are you to say what is normal to look for in a coaster.

Second of all, even putting in a new sidewalk takes planning, but obviously not as much. By building a clone, the track layout and all of the work that goes into making sure a design works is already taken care of. All of the ideas needed in creating a theming for the ride is taken care of. I did not say that it doesn't require work, it just requires a lot less work.

I like to think that i think rationally, unlike people who get all pissed off over a freaken rollercoaster thats built over a parking lot...

Secondly, How can you figure that the track layout is all planned out already? The blueprint for a clone will be out there but the plan? No.. doesnt work like that... As i said before rollercoasters clones or otherwise need alot of planning.

And not a lot less work as you put it either.

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