"Haunted" areas for FF

[skeptic555]

Allow me to weigh in here. Went to FF for the first time last sunday. I have no affiliation with the park, am not a staff member, nor anyone with an agenda. Just a middle aged season pass holder. Went cause 1. I love halloween, 2. never been before and 3. have a 6 and 4 year old, and was doing some "appropriateness" scouting.

Here are my thoughts. I loved it. Loved it loved it loved it. Would NOT take my kids for a number of years, but *I* was thoroughly impressed, ESPECIALLY with the level of intensity. Didnt go in any of the extra charge houses, so these comments are just about the regular park attractions.

Vampires and Clowns were especially outstanding. At one point the green haired clown was offline talking to a Crew rep and park security, I assumed about some complaint. I thought that was sad, after all, echoing the sentiments of much of this thread - you should know what you are getting into here, folks.

Id agree that the freak show was "disturbing" - of course, I stayed for the whole thing. I was set back on my heels, and was downright uncomfortable by the staple guns. WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT I EXPECTED WHEN I WENT OUT OF MY WAY TO ATTEND THE SHOW.

Good heavens folks - its a freak show.

Driving home, I was shocked a bit by the intensity of some of the stuff - corporate america has a way of boiling that out most of the time. And that made me love this event even more, if such a thing was possible. It's so rare.

Don't let the pollyannas get you down. Beef is right. There are tons of folks like me who DON'T visit sites like this, and who don't post. But those folks appreciate the effort and dedication. The moralizers and folks who want things to THEIR standards run riot the other 360 days of the year.

Halloween is an exception. This is a safe environment to let loose, laugh, scream, and generally get a rare release. Lets not lose sight of that.

[scaryisgood]

Well said, Mr. Skeptic. I'm so glad you enjoyed Fright Fest, and that you understood the intent of the concept.

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[kahmooza]

Right on. The santa thing was great, the freak show was better than that, the skeleton with the baby skeleton in the stomach was great.

And that comment about the 360 other days is so dead on. Individual thinkers rarely get a chance to have fun since this conservative take over and these kind of events is what we all wait for.

As mentioned above, read signs and take heed to a little common sense. And it really isn't so common anymore.

You get disturbed and offended easily? Don't go. Quite frankly I'm disturbed and offended by some of the eyesores walking around Hurricane Harbor all year...so...I don't go in there! Do I complain about it? No. I'm happy to see the park busy regardless of how they do it.

But fright fest is by far what I wait for all year. Perfect ending before the long dulled 7 month wait that we ALL can agree is no fun.

[twixmix0303]

Actually, I found the whole freak show thing to be disturbing, too. I mean, I really don't want to see someone pierce their cheek, hammer a nail through their nose, etc. Does Fright Fest really need a bad Santa, or could it be just as good with one fewer/different creature? The Freak Show should stay in my opinion because just like the houses, it's a separate show, whereas Santa is out in Necropolis. And I know I'll get bashed because Necropolis isn't out in the regular park. Why not move the bad Santa to inside a house or to the freak show if it's really that important?

[Binks Drake]

I think santa and his elves should stay in that bizaro toy shop. Like the gates motel thing. I love that. I just going through it yesterday. The bellhop got so sick of me.

[twixmix0303]

/\ Hmm...that would actually make sense. I had no idea that even existed.

[CoasterFreak57]

lol yeah i told one guy standin outside it who was scarin ppl to scare my friend when he came out

When he did the guy scared him and he jumped so high it was hilarious. And the Santa wasn't THAT bad. I mean me and my friends were having and 'argument' with them

it was fun and funny

[yeti_cat]

Y'know what Twix, I think six flags likes having the whole bad santa thing. The reason is clearly played out in this thread, you are talking about it, and boy, are you TALKING ABOUT IT...

When people see things that disturb them or that upset them or when people see things that they really like and think are funny THEY WILL TALK ABOUT THEM. Whomever it was that decided to do bad santa was making a good call, regardless of morals.
Anyone remember the lame thing that was in its place last year? One actor and some spinning thing with a dummy on it, not very interesting is it?
Three drunken and smoking characters dressed in red and trying to get you to sit on santa's lap are MUCH more entertaining. When I saw it I laughed out loud.

If you think little kids are disturbed by santa being mean, think about why the clowns are scary now. 10 years ago you'd be arguing the same thing about why they have clowns scaring people. Little kids like clowns, make them scary, little kids don't like clowns, aka IT. There are TONS of teenagers that are terrified of clowns because of that movie. Life's a circle, bad santa is the new IT.

sorry if that was a stretch, but y'know...haha

[NecropolisGD]

Just Honisty Everyone SHUT UP Wow If you dont like it Go build your own theme park and place things how you want it just stop complaining all peopel do is comp0lain please dont even come to fright fest if your goging to be complaing or just plain rude we dont want to see you there then and dont want tpo here form you so SHUT UP!!!! thanks you the grave digger has spoken

[Danhockey04]

If I recall correctly, there is a sign in front of Necropolis's entrance stating, "RATED R, not intended for children" it should also include, "or those who will be morally against everything and dont enjoy interestingly abnormal things." Necropolis is not there for anyone, just for those who are 'brave' enough to go through and want to be frightened and have a good time, and laugh about things or get scared. Enjoy Fright Fest, it is the best for a while. The whole Santa thing is a great idea, much better than the thing that was there last year, whatever it was, it was stated above.

[EagleFan344]

Actually, I found the whole freak show thing to be disturbing, too. I mean, I really don't want to see someone pierce their cheek, hammer a nail through their nose, etc. Does Fright Fest really need a bad Santa, or could it be just as good with one fewer/different creature? The Freak Show should stay in my opinion because just like the houses, it's a separate show, whereas Santa is out in Necropolis. And I know I'll get bashed because Necropolis isn't out in the regular park. Why not move the bad Santa to inside a house or to the freak show if it's really that important?

If you dont wanna see the freak show I have a solution for you. DONT WATCH IT. And yes, they need a bad santa .

[Trailblazer Tony]

As far as this whole bad santa thing, i can see both sides of the argument, but there is one easy way to solve the problem and that is to inform people of it. When i look at a sign that says for people 12 and older in a haunted town, why on earth would i assume that that age restriction is for sexual content? Wouldn't you assume it is for scary things instead? It is deceiving. If they just said on the sign why it is for 12 and older, the problem would be solved. Look at it this way, parents chose what to let there kids see by how there kids handle things. If a 10 year old has seen a scary movie before and was OK with it, then they would take the child into Necropolis without expecting him to also learn about sex, drinking, smoking, etc. Just mention it on the sign and all would be fine. End of story.

[twixmix0303]

/\ Thank you! That is what I have been trying to say. You can't just slap a rating onto something like Necropolis. The only problem with your solution is that Six Flags would never put up a sign that says "Rated R for sexual content". They would get bad press. Anyways, EagleFan344 that's why I said keep it. You don't have to watch it. Whereas the Santa, it seems like you can't miss it if you're walking through Necropolis. Move Santa to the Freak Show or to it's own separate attraction if it's really that necessary.

[EvilxJester]

I think most of this arguement is pointless. Santa and the "Hoe Hoe Hoe's" are hilarious! If you don't like just keep on walking.

Everything they say is obviously joking, necro does have a big sign saying rated R not recommended for young children, and if you are going to complain that much over santa.. you are being childish. Its a skit - get over it.

No one in any way stands there any makes you watch Santa and the Hoe's. You aren't being forced so dont look at, go watch something else that your not going to complain about - oh wait, what am I saying, alot of you always find something to complain about. Oh the clowns werent that scary, or omg the trolls scared me soo bad i pissed my self. make up your mind will ya?!

Fright fest is FRIGHT fest.. its there to make ya scream, piss your self, throw up, leave you terrified and in horror, DISTURBED as well, and at the end of the day.. want you to walk away asking yourself what is wrong with these people.

Obviously no one is ever going to be satisfied with the way Fright Fest is set up, just go with it - it gets better every year. And those of you who are there every year and take it as it is and love it. Your awesome.

As for those of you who are JPM vets.. I love ya'll soo much! <3

[Trailblazer Tony]

Putting on "Rated R for sexual content" would only make older kids want to go in there more. Possibly making it a better idea.

[kahmooza]

Heres an idea: Raise the age limit, make it a MANDATORY age, and make Necropolis even better! All the wussies can go play in Bugs Bunny Land.

The people who either don't see the sign, or don't heed to it and go in anyways just to come out complaining and whining; are the same people who are in the grocery express out lanes with too many items and the same people who are making that illegal turn in front of me causing me to hit my brakes to avoid hitting their ignant selfs.

[v2guy13]

you gus are making awesome coments. i dont know which side to take on the whole bad santa thing, but i do agree with a couple of things, 1-putting rated R for sexual content would make teens go in there (like me ) so maybe thats a bad idea 2- making a mandatory age limit propbaly would stop all the nagging, and complaining and crying so thats something they should do 3-if they do raise the age limit, then they could make it a lot scarier.


On another note, who else besides me thought that the haunted hotel was crappy? . I mean even though its free doesnt mean they have to make it bad, cause come on the only "scary" part was when the person at the registration desk slemmed the door and stared down people. Why dont they add a couple of extra rooms for either no charge or only like $2? then we could get scared for free

[twixmix0303]

Okay, so everyone under the age of, say, 13 or whatever the mandatory age would be, is a "wussie"?

If you give something an R rating but make the age limit 12, no one is going to heed the "Rated R" warning since the age for that is 17 according to the MPAA, as seen here: http://www.mpaa.org/movieratings/. Honestly, I'm not complaining about the fact it's there, Six Flags has every right to put it there and there is no point arguing that. I'm complaining that there is not sufficient warning, as Trailblazer Tony has already said: "When i look at a sign that says for people 12 and older in a haunted town, why on earth would i assume that that age restriction is for sexual content?". How about something like: "PG-13: Parents strongly cautioned. Some material may me inappropriate for children under 13. Contains violence and mild sexual references. For more information, please see a cast member or visit Guest Relations in the front of the park."

[SFGAmfan]

Or maybe they can have someone at the entrance warning people about what is inside and advising that parents use extreme caution in letting their children in. They can make it look cool too like they do at Cedar Point's Fright Zone entrance.

[twixmix0303]

That would work, too. Maybe have someone from JPM for that since the park is so understaffed this time of year.

[kahmooza]

Or maybe they can have someone at the entrance warning people about what is inside and advising that parents use extreme caution in letting their children in. They can make it look cool too like they do at Cedar Point's Fright Zone entrance.

The warning guy at CP fright zone is so awesome. I can't wait to see him next week.

[FreghtFestFreak3]

okay, twix, something you may have missed: its rated R for "really frightful" not movie ratings, and the sign does specify "really frightful" therefore people may abide to the age limit.

[twixmix0303]

Then that would make the rating portion of the sign completely pointless. So, Fright Fest is really frightful? Gee, I guess I wouldn't have figured that out. Let's see, it's only right in the name!

If you put a pun on the rating sign, it's only going to make people not listen to it, since they'll think it's just some sort of joke. Which makes them less apt to listen to the 12 and under age minimum. It seems like a sign like the one I came up with makes much more sense. Thirteen is a more reasonable age for sex jokes, considering it coincides with MPAA guidelines. Parents (hopefully) understand MPAA ratings and know what PG-13 content consists of, especially when the phrase "sexual" is mentioned in the subtext. Come on, we have warning signs about gum on a carousel, a PG-13 sign for Necropolis wouldn't look that bad. I haven't seen a warning person like Cedar Point's, but considering that even kahmooza agrees with me on that, it's got to be a great solution.

[kahmooza]

They could make a stage like CP's and put the mayor slayer up there and theme it out. That way if he sees a child obviously too young he can deny entry and nobody can argue because HE'S the mayor! Nobody has power over the mayor.

I still say signs do nothing though. Theres idiot signs all over the place in real life but some people still don't get it.

Necropolis rocks and GAm has every right to make it as disturbing as possible. And how bout that car crash scene? Very impressive. And santa's elves are hott. Rarrrrr. And Leatherface owns as always.

As you can read I enjoy Necropolis very much and dumbing it down for the complainers would really make me less interested in it. I may just travel to other parks more often then go to my home park. Halloween events are springing up at alot of parks now and GAm needs to keep up with the competition now. Otherwise the parks in less conservative locations are going to win.

[da rcman2001]

Actually, being as I'm an 11-year veteran performer at the event, I'd call my opinion not so much "biased" as "informed". The performers at Fright Fest know first-hand what the park expects of us, and what they are trying to accomplish in terms of show content and quality. We receive extensive training in order to help us accomplish this.

You've been doing Fright Fest for 11 years, but you're saying you're in no way proud of what you do? You'd never defend it if someone put it down (cough cough)...hrmm...seems like that would be biased to me.

Also, most, actually, make that all, of these comments are directed towards whoever comes up with this stuff and were never supposed to be directed specifically towards you or JPM. I have no idea if it would be the park or JPM but it seems to be the park. Hey, you guys are only doing what you are hired for.

Then don't come.

It's pretty simple: There are GIGANTIC SIGNS posted at the entrance to Necropolis designating it as a very scary attraction. If you still go in, you have ZERO room to complain about being offended by what's inside. They don't put those signs there for the heck of it. Think of them like the "You must be this tall to ride" signs at the beginning of the coaster queue...Only instead of a height requirement, it's a maturity requirement.

In other words, if you're offended by what you see in Necropolis, that falls cleanly and clearly into the category of "NOT OUR PROBLEM". After all: We warned you.

Like scaryisgood stated, this stuff is subjective. It's hard to slap a rating on something like this. Would Six Flags ever consider putting in a PG-13 in the IMAX. Of course not. So why they have Necropolis is beyond me.

That's funny. See, we heard directly from the park that we could expect bigger crowds this time out because season pass sales almost TRIPLED this year due to Hurricane Harbor. But I'm sure you know better.

The numbers speak for themselves. So our park has been doing OK with the new water park but Six Flags is $2.2 BILLION in debt. Have you noticed any trends since Marriot Days, then Time Warner, and now?

Boy. I wish you had even the FAINTEST idea of how much time, effort, and cash goes into mounting this event every year. It is, hands down, the single biggest Halloween attraction in the COUNTRY...And the response this year has been overwhelmingly positive. People are really digging it. And, speaking as a longtime veteran, I'm having more fun than I have in ages. We have a great crew, the park has a renewed enthusiasm, and things are really going great.

Don't get me wrong. I love Fright Fest. It is definately the most spectacular halloween event I have seen. You can tell, the crew definately has a passion for what they do. Really, we are arguing over one small detail I had a problem with.

A few hundred people all sacrifice their weekends for over a MONTH for the sole purpose of doing ONE thing, and doing it well: Entertaining park guests.

Oh, if you only knew. And to think, I've been "sacrificing" my weekends since MAY. That's more than a whole MONTH!

Well, they're more apt to COMPLAIN when things don't go their way, sure...But think about it this way: For every one guest who complains, there are literally hundreds, or even THOUSANDS, who don't. Methinks we're doing something RIGHT out there.

It's true you can't please all of the people all of the time...So I guess I'll have to settle for being on the side of the overwhelming majority.

True. You guys are definately doing it right out there. Really, this is over one small detail. Can't it still be just as fun and scary without the Santa. Everything else is scary, Santa is disturbing. That's the difference I see in this situation.

GET OVER IT!

Im sick of all of this political correctness screwing everything up in America. ITS A HALLOWEEN EVENT. They have santa because teens and college kids probibly get a kick out of talking to him, and because their pervertedness is disturbing and is a different kind of fear. I bet you would too if you werent such a stiff about the situation.

Just because you dont like Santa or the fact that Fright Fest is supposed to be scary and not just goofy for little kids and that they are trying to throw better events for an older crowd doesnt mean that you or other pussy politically correct soccer moms who instead of sucking it up and walking away or just try to brush it off and enjoy your night take things way too seriously, and by complaining to public relations or something so that you can get your way, are only killing other people's rights as Americans to enjoy a halloween event.

Halloween Horror Nights at universal studios orlando is a much more extreme event than Fright Fest. They put in millions of dollars a year making the event COMPLETELY different every year. Their event takes place from 7 to 2 in the morning and is loaded with several hundred more scareactors, tons of alcohol, a lot of exposing costumes for women characters, and much bigger scares including 7 haunted houses and much more involving stories. They are trying to attract teens, college students, and young adults, and they are doing a darn good job. The reason I brought universal up is because their event is A LOT worse, and a lot dirtier. In the front of the park this year they do live sacrifices, and the women scareacters are wearing skimpy outfits and make out with each other. Last year they had a prison house where the guys behind bars would do nothing but hit on the guests pretty much, and a realistic, not fantasy based, vampire house where there were vampire women seen masterbating on beds.

Do you still want to complain about fright fest after everything you just heard? Does it still sound really bad? SUCK IT UP! Please just dont be so serious about the situation and have a good time. Dont kill other people's fun. If one of the hoes calls you a name, oh well. She doesnt know you enough for that comment to be based on her real opinion. IT MEANS NOTHING.