"Haunted" areas for FF

[LaTiNoObSeSeDSFGAm]

^Yes but thats kinda just like a pathway for the haunted house. I saw the elves and the Santa Claus... I think hes to skinny and maybe a little bit to skinny...is like half his body behind the wall? If you dont know what i mean just ask...

Yesterday was full as heck I only went for like 40 minutes and rode Fiddlers Flung and Orbit thats it...the train was open but closed later on the day.

Question about Fallen Giant, do you have to pay to go in the day time and what time does the Internal Nightmare actually start?

[Rusty888]

in necropolis there a guy that was pretending to be a statue with a riped up face and only his eyes would move and i was like "Wow, that's your face!"

[Ilovthevu']

Does anyone have any pictures of the Bad Santa and elves? I went to Necropolis, and they weren't there at that time.

[tafaba]

What does Bad Santa have to do with Halloween, anyway?

You can't be Santa for Halloween? Plus, Santa and his "hoes" are dead, look at them closely.
I think it is funny. It got funnier today. Plus I spent a little time in the Santa chair today as a Pumkin, that was fun!

[ragingbullchick]

"What does Bad Santa have to do with Halloween anyway?"

It's the fact that he's in Necropolis. It's supposed to be a messed up place anyway. That's why. I found this set up very funny, so did my friends. What was even funnier was all the SHOCKED ( ) moms that were dragging their four and five year olds away. Not to be rude or anything, but why are people so stupid? If the sign says "Don not bring children under 12 in" then listen to the sign and don't do it... *sigh*

[twixmix0303]

I have to disagree with you in some ways. Yes, while the sign did warn to not bring children in under 12, this is still a family park and the bad santa was a bit out of line. There is a difference between being funny and being immoral, something that is definately lost in today's media.

[Raging Bull 4 life]

Just like i saw a skeleton being hung by King Chaos with a baby skeleton in the stomach area which I find it offensive.-

[LaTiNoObSeSeDSFGAm]

^Sorry, but whats so offensive about that...and the whole Santa thing is fine, people can easily walk away from that...even though its at the entrance. People need to stop complaining, yes its a family park but when its Fright Fest and theres warning signs saying this area is not meant for children under 12, then dont go!!! If thats the case tear down ever ride and make small ones since its a family park! If complaints like these keep going SFGAm will eventually have to take down all the great themes... look what happened to Demon back in the 80's, Dont Ruin It Again!

[Raging Bull 4 life]

A pregnet women being killed with the baby still in the womb.

You think that's not a problem?

[LaTiNoObSeSeDSFGAm]

I understand it may hurt people and I never said it wasnt a problem to me...but its not real and I highly doubt people look at that because I didnt see it...

You know how in cartoons skeletons move around and stuff and basically act like humans...well this skeleton couldnt just be pregnant and not murdered or killed with the baby inside you know hehe lol

[Raging Bull 4 life]

I don't like seeing that but i'm not going to make a big deal about it to six flags unless it is a big problem for the public which i doubt it was.

I won't say offensive but disturbing.

[Beef]

I won't say offensive but disturbing.

Well, that's kinda the idea.

Welcome to Fright Fest - Mission Accomplished.

[twixmix0303]

First off, since you're on the creature crew, whatever you say is pretty much biased.

Secondly, about the whole Santa thing, don't you think 12 years old is still a bit young for stuff like that? Heck, I'm 16 and I don't want to see stuff like that. Ragingbullchick pointed out that mothers were disgusted, well for good riddance I'd be too! This is why our park is $2.2 billion in debt and heading straight down a hellhole. Stuff like this drives GR complaints up, along with Superstition. Don't get me wrong, I love Superstition. However, you are going to see very little increase in guests who are much more satisfied in the overall Fright Fest experience because of a few extra attractions (Santa and Superstition) to the increase in guests who are much more dissatisfied in the overall Fright Fest experience because of those same few attractions. Guests pay much more attention to details when it is in a negative way than when it is in a positive way.

[scaryisgood]

Yeah, I work at the park, too...and I find this conversation to be ridiculous.

Good god, it's not like Bad Santa is out in the park, randomly boozing it up. He's in a small, adult attraction area. If people can't read SIGNS, they shouldn't be REPRODUCING. Period.

Morals blah, offended blah blah. Guess what? The PARK put up the skeletons and decor, NOT JPM. So hey, maybe the characters aren't the problem, eh?

SIG

[Beef]

First off, since you're on the creature crew, whatever you say is pretty much biased.

Actually, being as I'm an 11-year veteran performer at the event, I'd call my opinion not so much "biased" as "informed". The performers at Fright Fest know first-hand what the park expects of us, and what they are trying to accomplish in terms of show content and quality. We receive extensive training in order to help us accomplish this.

Secondly, about the whole Santa thing, don't you think 12 years old is still a bit young for stuff like that? Heck, I'm 16 and I don't want to see stuff like that.

Then don't come.

It's pretty simple: There are GIGANTIC SIGNS posted at the entrance to Necropolis designating it as a very scary attraction. If you still go in, you have ZERO room to complain about being offended by what's inside. They don't put those signs there for the heck of it. Think of them like the "You must be this tall to ride" signs at the beginning of the coaster queue...Only instead of a height requirement, it's a maturity requirement.

In other words, if you're offended by what you see in Necropolis, that falls cleanly and clearly into the category of "NOT OUR PROBLEM". After all: We warned you.

Ragingbullchick pointed out that mothers were disgusted, well for good riddance I'd be too! This is why our park is $2.2 billion in debt and heading straight down a hellhole.

That's funny. See, we heard directly from the park that we could expect bigger crowds this time out because season pass sales almost TRIPLED this year due to Hurricane Harbor. But I'm sure you know better.

Stuff like this drives GR complaints up, along with Superstition. Don't get me wrong, I love Superstition. However, you are going to see very little increase in guests who are much more satisfied in the overall Fright Fest experience because of a few extra attractions (Santa and Superstition) to the increase in guests who are much more dissatisfied in the overall Fright Fest experience because of those same few attractions.

Boy. I wish you had even the FAINTEST idea of how much time, effort, and cash goes into mounting this event every year. It is, hands down, the single biggest Halloween attraction in the COUNTRY. A few hundred people all sacrifice their weekends for over a MONTH for the sole purpose of doing ONE thing, and doing it well: Entertaining park guests. And the response this year has been overwhelmingly positive. People are really digging it. And, speaking as a longtime veteran, I'm having more fun than I have in ages. We have a great crew, the park has a renewed enthusiasm, and things are really going great.

Guests pay much more attention to details when it is in a negative way than when it is in a positive way.

Well, they're more apt to COMPLAIN when things don't go their way, sure...But think about it this way: For every one guest who complains, there are literally hundreds, or even THOUSANDS, who don't. Methinks we're doing something RIGHT out there.

It's true you can't please all of the people all of the time...So I guess I'll have to settle for being on the side of the overwhelming majority.

[twixmix0303]

Beef stated that Fright Fest is supposed to be disturbing. I myself don't go to Fright Fest to be "disturbed". Which I can honestly say some people here, including yourself, are for enjoying the fact that Santa has been so demoralized. Morals blah, offended blah blah? Wow, and to think this is our future America...unless, of course, this is our current America. It's kind of hard to tell...

[scaryisgood]

Did you actually READ what Beef or I said, or were you just typing before either of us posted?

There's nothing wrong with morals, and people can be offended by things that you or I would never even blink at. My point? It's SUBJECTIVE. Again, if Santa was doing his drunken thang out in the open parts of the park, that would be inappropriate. Guess what? He's NOT. He's in an area where the park WARNS people not to take their children. Why? Because adults like to be entertained and scared as well, and sometimes Bugs Bunny in a vampire costume just doesn't cut it.

Can you maybe, just for a second, think about things NOT from YOUR personal level of tolerance? That just seems silly, coming from someone who works in a park with 30,000 INDIVIDUALS. We need to entertain them ALL.

What do MORALS have to do with all of this anyhow? A dirty joke or bawdy act has you all uptight like this? And at 16? Wait, shouldn't you be in bed, Mr. Good Boy? It's almost ONE A.M.!

Why am I arguing with a child? Live a little, junior. Then come back and lecture me on morals.

Special pants.

SIG

[Beef]

Beef stated that Fright Fest is supposed to be disturbing.

Yep. It's a HALLOWEEN EVENT. Yes, Halloween, that pagan, pre-Christian holiday where the souls of the dead supposedly roamed the earth. Halloween, the unofficial start of fall, when everything withers and dies, gradually stiffening into the cold, spent corpse of winter. Halloween, a holiday second only to Christmas in popularity due to the macabre love of being scared that is part and parcel of human nature. I suppose you'd rather we just had a big tea party? Maybe handed out flowers and hugs? Complaining that a Halloween event is "disturbing" is kind of like complaining that the sky is blue. Not only is there nothing you can do about it, but a lot of other people like it that way because that's the way it's SUPPOSED to be!

Everyone who buys a ticket to FRIGHT FEST really OUGHT to be bright enough to know what they're getting themselves into. I mean, the word "FRIGHT" appears on the tickets, in the brochures, and on all of the promotional literature.

If you don't want to get bitten, then don't pick up a snake, Einstein.

[twixmix0303]

Did you actually READ what Beef or I said, or were you just typing before either of us posted?

I was typing the first post on the page while Beef had posted the one before it.

[scaryisgood]

GO TO BED!

You're mom's gonna be maaaaaaad....

[Beef]

I was typing the first post on the page while Beef had posted the one before it.

Congratulations!

Here's your cookie:

[twixmix0303]

Actually, being as I'm an 11-year veteran performer at the event, I'd call my opinion not so much "biased" as "informed". The performers at Fright Fest know first-hand what the park expects of us, and what they are trying to accomplish in terms of show content and quality. We receive extensive training in order to help us accomplish this.

You've been doing Fright Fest for 11 years, but you're saying you're in no way proud of what you do? You'd never defend it if someone put it down (cough cough)...hrmm...seems like that would be biased to me.

Also, most, actually, make that all, of these comments are directed towards whoever comes up with this stuff and were never supposed to be directed specifically towards you or JPM. I have no idea if it would be the park or JPM but it seems to be the park. Hey, you guys are only doing what you are hired for.

Then don't come.

It's pretty simple: There are GIGANTIC SIGNS posted at the entrance to Necropolis designating it as a very scary attraction. If you still go in, you have ZERO room to complain about being offended by what's inside. They don't put those signs there for the heck of it. Think of them like the "You must be this tall to ride" signs at the beginning of the coaster queue...Only instead of a height requirement, it's a maturity requirement.

In other words, if you're offended by what you see in Necropolis, that falls cleanly and clearly into the category of "NOT OUR PROBLEM". After all: We warned you.

Like scaryisgood stated, this stuff is subjective. It's hard to slap a rating on something like this. Would Six Flags ever consider putting in a PG-13 in the IMAX. Of course not. So why they have Necropolis is beyond me.

That's funny. See, we heard directly from the park that we could expect bigger crowds this time out because season pass sales almost TRIPLED this year due to Hurricane Harbor. But I'm sure you know better.

The numbers speak for themselves. So our park has been doing OK with the new water park but Six Flags is $2.2 BILLION in debt. Have you noticed any trends since Marriot Days, then Time Warner, and now?

Boy. I wish you had even the FAINTEST idea of how much time, effort, and cash goes into mounting this event every year. It is, hands down, the single biggest Halloween attraction in the COUNTRY...And the response this year has been overwhelmingly positive. People are really digging it. And, speaking as a longtime veteran, I'm having more fun than I have in ages. We have a great crew, the park has a renewed enthusiasm, and things are really going great.

Don't get me wrong. I love Fright Fest. It is definately the most spectacular halloween event I have seen. You can tell, the crew definately has a passion for what they do. Really, we are arguing over one small detail I had a problem with.

A few hundred people all sacrifice their weekends for over a MONTH for the sole purpose of doing ONE thing, and doing it well: Entertaining park guests.

Oh, if you only knew. And to think, I've been "sacrificing" my weekends since MAY. That's more than a whole MONTH!

Well, they're more apt to COMPLAIN when things don't go their way, sure...But think about it this way: For every one guest who complains, there are literally hundreds, or even THOUSANDS, who don't. Methinks we're doing something RIGHT out there.

It's true you can't please all of the people all of the time...So I guess I'll have to settle for being on the side of the overwhelming majority.

True. You guys are definately doing it right out there. Really, this is over one small detail. Can't it still be just as fun and scary without the Santa. Everything else is scary, Santa is disturbing. That's the difference I see in this situation.

[punkbunny24242]

So this is going to be a repeat of last year huh guys?? Ok I better get my boxing gloves on to support the Creature Crew and Fright Fest again. Right now I just don't have the time to... sorry guys. Beef, Ruk, Big Mike, Necropolis GD, bushes, and all other creature crew I love you guys!! You know that from last year though The work that you guys do is hard stuff but the memories that you install into our memories are priceless!! I'll be there the 15th, 21st, 22nd, 23rd and the 29th so I'm sure I'll say hi on one of my many trips.

[Ruk]

I found these boards last year, but I've been part of the Creature Crew since 1994. I want to ask: Did you all have a discussion like this about the "Mistress of Fright Fest" a few years back? She was a character in Necropolis (before I joined this forum) who was kind of like "Elvira". She was dressed very provocatively, and guests (mostly men) would pay to pose with her on her couch for pictures. My guess is that she was just as appropriate or inappropriate for our family park as bad Santa is. I just want to know if any of you found that character to be as controversial as the new Santa character.

In a similar vein, the freak show is more "disturbing" than scary. Should we get rid of it just because Halloween should only be about scary, or is it acceptable? If it is alright, then why not the disturbing dead santa?

For that matter, the Trolls are pretty disturbing, and downright rude most times. I think the only reason we scare people away is because we smell (which is also disturbing)...

Ruk

[pennyroyalest]

The Bad Santa thing was just weird.