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BREAKING NEWS: RITA 3RD MOST POWERFUL STORM EVER CAT 5

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Postby Aero737 on September 21st, 2005, 12:43 am
Hurricanes acually are giant heat generators. In order for a hurricane to form they need warm sea surface temperatures in which water readaly evaporated from. As this water vapor condenses into water it releases heat. This is called latent heat release. This release of heat and energy fuels the storm. So in all acuality, hurricanes are huge heaters that warm the atmosphere. Take an environmental sounding in a hurricane, the temperatures will be about 20 degrees warmer than normal inside the storm.

Hurricanes are also not thunderstorms, they rarely have lightning and almost never exceed 50,000 feet in height.
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Postby twixmix0303 on September 21st, 2005, 8:57 am
Is this why we've seen such unusually warm weather these past couple of weeks? Or was it just the luck of the draw?
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Postby kahmooza on September 21st, 2005, 9:38 am
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Binks Drake wrote:That's huge. I have some family in both South Florida and South Texas. I hope they're okay...


They'll most likely be okay. It looks like the worst of it was south of Florida.


I have an aunt and uncle, along with 8 cousins in Corpus. Called them last night and they seemed so calm about it. Guess you get used to these after awhile?

My cousin laughed and was like "stop watching the news its making you worry..." I told him don't even think about trying to ride this one out in your tiny little house. They are going to a hospital shelter further inland, but if it's a 5 at any point they will go up to Dallas by some friends...which seems likely at this point.

I hope the city doesn't get too destroyed. I've been there several times and its such a beautiful place. Then again so was N.O. :(
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Postby Galvan on September 21st, 2005, 12:24 pm
twixmix0303 wrote:Is this why we've seen such unusually warm weather these past couple of weeks? Or was it just the luck of the draw?


The reason we have seen warm weather the last few weeks was a result of a Ridge of High Pressure over the area.

The Jet Stream is basically blocking the colder canadian air from canada to head south. This patteren is probably not going to change for atleast a week.

Also, too clear confusion about an earlier response:

I acknowledge that a Hurricane is not a thunderstorm; what i ment when the question was asked about cooling; my answer was associated with regular thunderstorms and not hurricanes.
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Postby kahmooza on September 21st, 2005, 3:25 pm
Cat five...
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Postby [jonrev] on September 21st, 2005, 3:50 pm
Holy crap!
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Postby JGSixFlags on September 21st, 2005, 4:26 pm
kahmooza wrote:Cat five...


It isnt a wounder, i checked ocean temps. They are in the hight 80's. I belive that the water temps need to be 70 or more for tropical development.
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Postby Galvan on September 21st, 2005, 10:18 pm
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HURRICANE ALERT

RITA HAS INTENSIFIED TO A DANGEROUS CATEGORY 5 HURRICANE WITH
WINDS NEAR 165 MPH...

...HURRICANE WATCH HAS BEEN RAISED FOR THE UPPER TEXAS COAST...

...INLAND HURRICANE WATCH FOR PORTIONS OF SOUTHEAST TEXAS...

...THIS STATEMENT APPLIES TO THE RESIDENTS OF...GALVESTON...
JACKSON...MATAGORDA...FORT BEND...WHARTON...HARRIS...BRAZORIA...
LIBERTY...CHAMBERS...FORT BEND...WHARTON...COLORADO...AUSTIN...
WALLER...WASHINGTON...GRIMES...MONTGOMERY...WALKER...MADISON...
BRAZOS...AND BURLESON COUNTIES.

...WATCHES/WARNINGS IN EFFECT...
HURRICANE WATCH FOR ALL OF THE COASTAL COUNTIES OF SOUTHEAST TEXAS.

INLAND HURRICANE WATCH FOR AREAS GENERALLY ALONG AND NORTH OF THE
HIGHWAY 59 CORRIDOR TO THE WEST OF INTERSTATE 45.


...CURRENT STORM INFORMATION...

.LOCATION...
AT 4 PM CDT...THE CENTER OF HURRICANE RITA WAS LOCATED NEAR
LATITUDE 24.4 NORTH...LONGITUDE 86.8 WEST...OR ABOUT 640 MILES
SOUTHEAST OF FREEPORT TEXAS.

.MOVEMENT...
HURRICANE RITA WAS MOVING WEST AT 13 MPH. THIS GENERAL MOTION IS
EXPECTED TO CONTINUE FOR THE NEXT 24 HOURS.

.INTENSITY...
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS WERE ESTIMATED AT 165 MPH WITH HIGHER
GUSTS. RITA IS A DANGEROUS CATEGORY 5 HURRICANE WITH FLUCTUATIONS IN
STRENGTH EXPECTED THROUGH THURSDAY.

...PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

.EVACUATION INFORMATION...
FOR JACKSON COUNTY...
MANDATORY EVACUATION HAS BEEN DECLARED FOR THE ENTIRE COUNTY.

FOR MATAGORDA COUNTY...
MANDATORY EVACUATION FOR EVERYONE SOUTH OF A LINE FROM HIGHWAY 35 AT
THE BRAZORIA COUNTY LINE TO MARKHAM THEN SOUTH ON HIGHWAY 2431
TO MIDFIELD AND THEN SOUTH ON HIGHWAY 111 TO THE COUNTY LINE WILL BE
IN EFFECT AT 6 PM. THIS CURRENTLY EXCLUDES BAY CITY AND VAN VLECK.


ALTHOUGH TRAFFIC HAS BEEN HEAVY WITH ALL OF THE VOLUNTARY
EVACUATIONS AS THE TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN IS IMPLEMENTED AT 6 PM...
TRAFFIC MOVEMENT SHOULD ACCELERATE...SO DO NOT LET THE TRAFFIC
DELAYS HALT YOUR EFFORTS TO EVACUATE.

AT 6 PM...FOR HARRIS COUNTY...MANDATORY EVACUATIONS WILL BE IN
EFFECT FOR ZONE A. ZONES B AND C WILL HAVE MANDATORY EVACUATIONS
BEGINNING AT 6 AM THURSDAY.

AT 6 PM FOR GALVESTON AND BRAZORIA COUNTIES...MANDATORY EVACUATIONS
WILL BE IN EFFECT FOR ZONE A. ZONE B WILL HAVE A MANDATORY
EVACUATION IN EFFECT AT 2 AM THURSDAY. ZONE C WILL HAVE A MANDATORY
EVACUATION IN EFFECT AT 6 AM THURSDAY. ON GALVESTON ISLAND...BUSES
WILL BE AVAILABLE AT THE ISLAND COMMUNITY CENTER ON BROADWAY FOR
PERSONS WITH NO OTHER MEANS OF TRANSPORTATION. PEARLAND OFFICE OF
EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT OFFICE HAS ISSUED A MANDATORY EVACUATION FOR
THOSE IN FLOOD PRONE AREAS...THOSE IN MOBILE HOMES OR OTHER NON-
STURDY STRUCTURES AND FOR THOSE WITH SPECIAL TRANSPORTATION NEEDS AS
SOON AS POSSIBLE.



Rita has now become the 3rd strongest Hurricane ever in the Atlantic Basin. Galveston/Houston look to be the target for this strom.
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Postby Binks Drake on September 21st, 2005, 10:23 pm
That is a ginourmous storm.
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Postby JGSixFlags on September 22nd, 2005, 6:28 am
And that is the work of high ocean temps.
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Postby twixmix0303 on September 22nd, 2005, 8:45 am
Galvan316 I think the color diagram is updating itself. :) (Look at the first one. It used to have FL.)
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Postby kahmooza on September 22nd, 2005, 10:19 am
JGSixFlags wrote:And that is the work of high ocean temps.


*ahem*

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20050922/sc_nm/environment_warming_dc
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Postby Shockwavegirl on September 22nd, 2005, 11:30 am
"ahem"...(most of message deleted...apparently we are remaining non-political).
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Postby Rusty888 on September 22nd, 2005, 4:24 pm
If the world is getiing hotter and the oceans warmer, what do you think happens since hurricanes need warm water to form? Bigger, badder, hurricanes, thats what.
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Postby RagingBullLover1543 on September 22nd, 2005, 4:28 pm
Those people down on the Island of Galveston, Texas are in the direct path of RITA, but luck enough almost all of them left already.

I think all the people who are staying are complete idiots!
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Postby Aero737 on September 22nd, 2005, 4:41 pm
Rita has fallen apart today. Pressure is up and max winds were recorded at 121 mph. Dry air entrainment and an unfavorable shear environment will keep Rita at bay.
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Postby kahmooza on September 22nd, 2005, 4:59 pm
^ One can only hope Aero. I've always been impressed by your weather knowledge and sincerely hope your right. If you aren't my family in Corpus will have nothing left to go back to. Their belongings are being left behind 4 blocks from the gulf. Unfortunately it is just a little far fetched to think this won't land at a Cat 4 or higher.

RagingBullLover1543 wrote:Those people down on the Island of Galveston, Texas are in the direct path of RITA, but luck enough almost all of them left already.

I think all the people who are staying are complete idiots!


That is kind of inconsiderate until you are in that scenario and maybe not as "well off" as you may be right now. If you have nothing, have no where to go, and no means of transportation you don't have much of a choice. Lets say the highways stay gridlocked like they are now...pick your poison: Sit in a vehicle on the highway in the middle of no where with no gas only 20 miles from the coast, or be in a structure just a short ways closer to the gulf?

And thats not even counting in the gas situation. Pipelines are shut. There is NO WAY enough gas to get everyone out. And after this storm every major city will be out because people will be filling up today before it goes up another dollar tomorrow and demand will finally overtake supply to the point of no return. Plus once your out you're going to be stuck somewhere without gas. Would you rather be in the middle of nowhere or riding it out at home? There are still people in this situation from Katrina. We just don't hear about them, nor does the media want us to.

I believe everyone should have a choice on whether or not to evacuate. Now I would encourage people to leave but if they choose not to, I can understand why. It's alot like the old saying "A captain always goes down with his ship."
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Postby JGSixFlags on September 22nd, 2005, 4:59 pm
Its back up to a cat 4 today, with winds of 145 mph.
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Postby Shockwavegirl on September 23rd, 2005, 12:06 am
I believe that RagingBull meant that the people who are staying by choice are idiots....not the ones who have no where to go, or anyway to get there. The dumbarses who think they are stronger than mother nature. "Oh I survived Andrew when it hit my home in FL, I can survive this one too, no hurricane is going to chase me away from my stuff."


Those are the idots of which most of us speak.
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