I can voice my opinion how I wish. I'm sick of this president. He's a wormy man. He doesn't keep promises.
Point is, he said we're ready to respond if America was ever attacked. What if this was a dirty bomb in New Orleans. Would it take 5 days to get people out of there? Would those people be sitting in a radiation filled town for 5 days?
I sure hope not, but after this, I bet they would.
When your opinion is nothing but a flamatory bash, then its not needed, I respect your opinion but, you can be a little more intelligent in your angst against Bush.
I agree with Galvan. Saying "F U Bush" isn't very intelligent. I am a
Bush supporter and I'm happy that I did vote for him, but if Kerry
won, I wouldn't go around saying stuff like that about Kerry.
Love Bush or Hate him, he's here till the next election, so get over it!
"The world of politics is filled with uncivilized, snarling, rapacious beasts that, like untrained mutts, raise their legs and urinate on everything we hold dear," - Michael Savage
^Except that he had a few paragraphs above that in his actual post. That was just the big finale.
Okay, Here is what I have to say about all of this. I completly agree with all of aero's posts. The President is ready to handle Terrorism, But, seemingly only terrorism. This is like stating "It doesn't matter how people die, but if It's terrorism...We'll be there right on time don't worry...A big disaster of some kind, I go on summer vacation and complain about this woman who wants to meet with me about her son."
and w00dland everyone realizes that these things take time, once again, if it had been terrorism or an attack of some kind...it wouldn't have, they would have been there instantly.
Everyone's been saying things like "It's their mistake why waste time rescuing them" First of all...God forbid you ever make a mistake...I highly doubt that's ever happend to anyone on this board. Second, maybe (As many people have stated) they couldn't get out, would you want to just sit there with no food or water for days while the government ignored you.
I'm sorry If the first part of this post made no sense, I'm a bit tired...but it sounded good in my head.
Binks i have sat through big natural disasters, my goverment ignored me. They did nothing, at least bush is doing somthing.
The mayor set the stage for a disaster by sending all of those people to the superdome. They dont send the people in flordia to pro-player stadium every time a cane rolls on through.
As for as the terriorist attack senario, these are two totally different situations. they had easy acess to the last terrorist attack sight. Its kinda hard to get underwater dont you think? Now if terrorist had blowen the leavys the situation would of been the same, they couldnt of gotten to the people. They would of jsut had to wait.
I know one person who made that mistake, the Mayor of New Orleans!
"The world of politics is filled with uncivilized, snarling, rapacious beasts that, like untrained mutts, raise their legs and urinate on everything we hold dear," - Michael Savage
mschulz5 wrote:Okay, JG, no offense, but you've told us three times now that your government ignored you. I think we understand.
JGSixFlags wrote:They dont send the people in flordia to pro-player stadium every time a cane rolls on through.
Well not every hurricane that rolls through Florida is a High Category 4/ Category 5 storm now is it?
Florida has seen more Cat 5/4 Storms than New Orleans. Yeah I have told you that my goverment ingorned my 3 times. Its to make a point. Bush is doing somthing, he didnt ignore them. These things just take time.
First off, you can't just order a full fledged evacuation everytime a hurricane sits in the Gulf of Mexico. After awhile, your orders will become hearsay to alot of people.
Second, the mayor of N.O. did everything he could considering this storm took a turn toward the city at a rate that wasn't even on the radar of what the national weather service predicted (that it would slam into the Florida panhandle).
Third: This storm brewed up to a category 5 storm in a matter of hours leaving N.O. in a tough situation with the storm barrelling down on them within a 24 hour period.
He reacted they way he should have. The 20% if people that decided not to leave or couldn't leave due to money, transportation, etc., were give a safe haven from the storm until it passed. What happened with the levee just made the situation worse.
And to all those Bush supporters in this mess, it has been documented and shown on the news that he pulled funding from the major levee project to protect N.O.
Sorry Bush supporters, but our president dropped the ball twice in this case. He pulled funding for the levees and he was late getting the troops down there to help. How freakin ironic that right after the New Orleans mayor lashed out on the administration, did Bush start deploying troops and visiting the affected areas.
And Mike, don't get on Jason's ass for saying "F.U." Bush when you yourself are quick to bash liberals when a topic comes up that you don't agree with.
I finally retired the Sarah Palin signature because she is now 100% irrelevant.
Chitown wrote:And Mike, don't get on Jason's ass for saying "F.U." Bush when you yourself are quick to bash liberals when a topic comes up that you don't agree with.
I could care less if he liked him or disliked him, what im saying is "F U" Bush is an inapproprate response to this discussion, give an intelligent answer.
And im quick to bash liberals because...Liberalism is a Mental Disorder.
Need proof of how liberalism is a mental disorder?
Following the Asian Tsunami, liberals wanted to change the name of the "Tsunami" Rollercoaster at that one i want to say New Jersey amusement park.. Text Book liberal garbage.
Wow, Mike. Only a year ago you were complain about Greatamerica2003's signature "Arguing on the internet is like having a mental disorder. Even if you win, your still retarded." (or something close to that). You got so offended at the retarded/mental disability part.
Now here you are, throwing out "Liberalism is a mental disorder".
For every one thing you can say about liberalism, I can counter with a dumb republican decision.
There is absolutly NOTHING we can do about Bush. You know what,
he's not perfect. No President in History was perfect. If you can tell
me how Clinton was perfect, please tell me!
I always have and always will support Bush. He has had to endure so
much crap in his Presidency. Especially crap by people who hate him.
He's our president and deserves our support. If you don't like it, who
cares! There is nothing you can do about it now!
Saying you don't like him and such doesn't matter cause you can't
do a thing about it! There's no point in debating something that you
can't change. You'll just have to wait until the next election!
"The world of politics is filled with uncivilized, snarling, rapacious beasts that, like untrained mutts, raise their legs and urinate on everything we hold dear," - Michael Savage
Galvan316 wrote:[Need proof of how liberalism is a mental disorder?
Following the Asian Tsunami, liberals wanted to change the name of the "Tsunami" Rollercoaster at that one i want to say New Jersey amusement park.. Text Book liberal garbage.
Show me proof that it's strictly liberals who want that coaster's name changed. You automatically blame one group for something that is going on which is just ignorance.
Case in point: The breastfeeding incident at SFGAm. It was a top republican in the state of Illinois that pushed the bill to make it certain that mothers can breastfeed anywhere they deem necessary to feed their kids. I bring this up because I read your topic on Coasterfanatics blaming the liberals for allowing this.
Open your eyes and see that all walks of life agree and disagree.
I finally retired the Sarah Palin signature because she is now 100% irrelevant.
aero737 wrote:Wow, Mike. Only a year ago you were complain about Greatamerica2003's signature "Arguing on the internet is like having a mental disorder. Even if you win, your still retarded." (or something close to that). You got so offended at the retarded/mental disability part.
Now here you are, throwing out "Liberalism is a mental disorder".
For every one thing you can say about liberalism, I can counter with a dumb republican decision.
To help get things back on topic, even though, to many, the
Federal Response was "slow", we must not forget about those
who were quick to respond.
Groups such as:
1. Coast Guard
2. The Salvation Army Disaster Unit
3. Red Cross
These 3 groups, I believe, were the fastest to respond. I really
don't know about the Coast Guard and the Red Cross, but I do
know for a fact that The Salvation Army had units ready to roll
to the Gulf Coast, before the Hurricane even hit. I do know that
units were ready to go when Katrina hit Florida.
The only problem that The Salvation Army and the Red Cross
had was getting to the Convention Center and Superdome once
the devistation hit with the flooding. With the roads impacted and
such, the response time to get down there was slow.
Even though the Total response time was slow, we must be happy
that everyone is out of the Superdome and the Convention Center.
Yes, many people lost their lives from the conditions they were in,
but lets be thankful for those who lived through this.
The next hurdle is to get those who don't want to leave New Orleans,
to actually leave, for their safety.
"The world of politics is filled with uncivilized, snarling, rapacious beasts that, like untrained mutts, raise their legs and urinate on everything we hold dear," - Michael Savage
And im quick to bash liberals because...Liberalism is a Mental Disorder.
You just make republicans everywhere look bad by saying that. Fact is the only reason I dislike liberals on occasion is because they are quick to say something is bad before looking into it (from my experiences) and there you go just saying liberals suck because you don't like them or ANY of their ideas.
Well, without liberals we would all be making 3 dollars an hour 12 hours a day, and there probably wouldn't be a labor day tomorrow.
And this is a bit different than a terrorist attack. Homeland security would have troops in there in a matter of hours instead of days. I think the President didn't expect the violence and other things in the city. He should have sent troops in sooner, unfortunatly he didn't.
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And im quick to bash liberals because...Liberalism is a Mental Disorder.
Need proof of how liberalism is a mental disorder?
Following the Asian Tsunami, liberals wanted to change the name of the "Tsunami" Rollercoaster at that one i want to say New Jersey amusement park.. Text Book liberal garbage.
Remember "Freedom" fries? That was a little more ridiculous than renaming the coaster.
Unfortunately republicans are so stubborn minded they don't even realize it.
Librials can be that way to, just not republicans. This issues is Libiral Vs. Consertive or Republican Vs. Democrats was about the time in which help arrived.
People here made it into an issue of political status, the people that were victimised made it into an issue of race which if you aske me is discusting!
The point is that help has now arrived, and most of the people that died during the storm. YES people died in the superdome and convention center, but most of them died during the storm it self. And after all this complaning about help not getting there, some people STILL dont want to leave, well to those people i say ROT for all i care! You cant say no one helped you now!
What does that have to do with any thing? Please post somthing use full if you are going to post somthing. This isnt the time for humor, this topic is about help, and response to the hurricane victimes. That did nothing to prove a point.
I bet people in Katrinas Path would laugh at that, but find it some what offensieve. They went through all of that terror, only for some stupid animation to be made out of it.
Second, maybe (As many people have stated) they couldn't get out, would you want to just sit there with no food or water for days while the government ignored you.
