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Why did they tame the Raging Bull in some spots?

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Postby RagingBullLover1543 on July 25th, 2005, 10:12 am
The Raging Bull is my favorite ride at SFGAM. But from when it first opened in 1999 to this year 2005 I've noticed they have tamed the ride a little bit.

They put brakes at the top of the third hill. If they would have left it, it would have given the riders some great air time.

They also put brakes right before the helix-type deal before the end of the ride.

So, can anyone tell me what they know or what they think about the taming of the raging bull :?:
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Postby Geno21K on July 25th, 2005, 10:35 am
From what I know, and someone please correct me if I'm wrong, those brakes have always been there, they were just not operating as tightly as they are now. This tightening of trims over time is not uncommon. I've heard that how strong brakes like this are utilized depends on how the ride makes the course. Sometimes allowing the train to carry too much speed through a particular section of the course puts extra wear on the train or track. When that determination is made, trims are increased in order to reduce speed and the extra strain. I'm not saying that this is the case with Bull, but I've heard that's why that sometimes happens. Hopefully some of the guys/gals with more direct tech knowledge will chime in here.
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Postby w00dland on July 25th, 2005, 11:25 am
^Did you really just post just to let us know that?!?! If you have nothing to contribute don't post at all!

As far as I can remember Raging Bull has been trimmed to death, although I can't really remember back in like 1999 hwne it first opened.
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Postby Raging_Bull on July 25th, 2005, 11:36 am
Back when it opened it was barely trimmed at all. You could not even notice the trims on the third hill, the MCBR was on so light (it MAYBE hit for a third of a second) that it was pretty much useless, and I believe the trims before the figure 8 were off. Those were the good days, much more airtime and more positive G's in the figure 8. It's still a great ride, it's intensity is just being killed by over-trimming lately.
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Postby RagingBullLover1543 on July 25th, 2005, 11:37 am
I personally think that they have tamed it a little but it's still a great ride.

It's :cry: that the ride is getting a little rough isn't it :idea:
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Postby ihauntu2 on July 25th, 2005, 11:37 am
sfgam05 wrote:I have nothing to contribute to this topic cause i haven't ridden bull YET. Yet being the key word, but when i do i'll post something.



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By not allowing the train to travel as fast, the momentum is decreased.

The result is less stress and strain on the parts of the train which allows for a cheaper maintenance cost.
What does a B&M wheel assembly cost these days?

I have also heard that the trims also function in unison with the MCBR to correct speed, allowing for a smoother timing of trains. The purpose would be to get perfect timing and seperation between trains to allow for a higher running capacity, and always having the line moving which makes customers happy. Of course the ride ops ability to dispatch the trains in time wouls also have an effect on this.

I personally don't buy that theory given the larga amount of computing and sensor control would only amount to timing differences of a few seconds, but it is something I've heard.
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Postby RagingBullLover1543 on July 25th, 2005, 11:39 am
Raging_Bull wrote:Back when it opened it was barely trimmed at all. You could not even notice the trims on the third hill, the MCBR was on so light (it MAYBE hit for a third of a second) that it was pretty much useless, and I believe the trims before the figure 8 were off. Those were the good days, much more airtime and more positive G's in the figure 8. It's still a great ride, it's intensity is just being killed by over-trimming lately.


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Postby Danhockey04 on July 25th, 2005, 12:13 pm
They do that to prevent stress on the supports, it also is there to monitor the train's speed, if it going too fast, it will slow it down. It also allows for some great front row air time.
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Postby RagingBullLover1543 on July 25th, 2005, 12:16 pm
Danhockey04 wrote:They do that to prevent stress on the supports, it also is there to monitor the train's speed, if it going too fast, it will slow it down. It also allows for some great front row air time.


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Postby RagingBullLover1543 on July 25th, 2005, 12:24 pm
C-mon people so many viewer no responders. :lol: lol
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Postby CoasterDave316 on July 25th, 2005, 3:14 pm
RagingBullLover1543, calm down with the posting. Like Woodland said, if you have nothing to contribute don't post at all.

Also please read the forum rules about signatures as your signature was about 10 lines long.
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