Ragin Bull backwards?

[sfgacoasterfan31687]

Is it possible to run Raging Bull backwards like they are currently doing with the American Eagle Blue train. I am not sure if it is physically or mechanically possible but I was just wondering?

[rct2wizard360]

Im pretty sure it is. But it would be alot more intense than would Eagle. Plus its better forwards!

[Timmy179]

It will never ever happen, it would probably cost an arm and a leg not to mention it would be stupid


Why mess with something thats fine the way it is??????????

[sfgacoasterfan31687]

But is it possible to run it in reverse, not that they ever would?

[Papas]

Ride in back row and turn and look behind the seats.

[Ilovthevu']

I don't see why not they can't put it backwards. They won't because in my opinion it is the first, second or third most popular ride in the park. (D Vu', RB, and RC (that's a different topic)) AM E is not as popular as these so they need to make it unique.

[Timmy179]

NO NO NO it will never go backwards, nor will it ever need to. Steel coasters dont go backwards. ( Exceptions, Deja vus, and other boomerang and launched, or impulsed coasters.)

Your question was is it possible, the answer is, yes. Most likely its possible, but the trains would have to be stripped off, the chassis would have to be modified, and it would probably need new restraints, most likley OTSR's. ( The force of going down bulls drop backwards in a lap restraint would have the capability of pulling you out.)

[Papas]

NO NO NO it will never go backwards, nor will it ever need to. Steel coasters dont go backwards. ( Exceptions, Deja vus, and other boomerang and launched, or impulsed coasters.)

Jokers Revenge.

[Timmy179]

Ill give you that, but Vekoma designed it so it would run backwards.

Of course you mean Jester right?

[Papas]

Yes.

[SfGaMownz]

Joker's Revenge is a pretty good ride I must admit, I rode it at Fiesta Texas when it was still there, it kind of reminds me of Demon backwards.

[planea380]

NO NO NO it will never go backwards, nor will it ever need to. Steel coasters dont go backwards. ( Exceptions, Deja vus, and other boomerang and launched, or impulsed coasters.)

You must allways remeber that anything is possible. XLR-8 is a suspended coaster and is running backwards.
http://www.rcdb.com/installationdetail134.htm

For Fright Fest in 2002 Astroworld reversed the last four cars of the trains and called the ride "8-RLX". They have continued to run the trains this way.

[Timmy179]

Ehh its still not practical, common, nor realistic.

[Galvan]

Okay Okay, so now lets list every single ride that has ever run backwards and be smart alecs about it.

Fact: Raging Bull wont ever be run backwards.
Reason: Because it is too popular of a ride and because theres really no reason to make it run backwards.
Remedy: Ride AEB if you want to have a backward sensation on a Coaster.

[Timmy179]

the only reason AE:B is running backwards is because they can offer two different experiences on the same coaster, efficiently, which wouldnt be possible on any other coasters gere at Gam

[emtbabe20]

Physically as it sits right now Bull would not be able to run bacwards... you have no lift to get it started number one and if they id that like they have done with eagle just turning the car around they would have to totally redo the entire wheel base to get it up the lift and allow the brakes to function properly... sorry guys it wont happen....

[planea380]

Let's leave it at anything is possible, and that it most likely will not happen.

[greatamerica2003]

Physically as it sits right now Bull would not be able to run bacwards... you have no lift to get it started number one and if they id that like they have done with eagle just turning the car around they would have to totally redo the entire wheel base to get it up the lift and allow the brakes to function properly... sorry guys it wont happen....

OK I think most of us intelligent people know that the ride cant possibly run backwards through the ride course............

It is possible, but not with MAJOR mechanical changes, which would cost far more than anyone would want to spend for a thrill ride modification. You are talking about NEW trains (modifying the current ones is not practical) moving prox switches, changing lift parts.

You guys forget that rollercoasters aren't like Erector sets. You cant just take it apart and modify it like you want.

The Eagle train underbody and chassis is pretty much identical whether you turn it backwards or forwards. Brake fins in the same contact points, stingers in the same places so the modifications are incredibly simple.

[da rcman2001]

Ride in back row and turn and look behind the seats.

HELL YEAH! Dude I sit row nine far left so I can lean over on all the turns, but when I look backwards during the figure 8 I get so dizzy.

[Adix]

Okay, what the heck... why would they need to rebuild the entire ride? I wouldn't be suprised if you could detach the section above the wheel mounts, drill new holes, and turn it around... I'm not saying is this practical, or that it should be done...

NO NO NO it will never go backwards, nor will it ever need to. Steel coasters dont go backwards.

Less sugar, less stupid, there, son. You might be excited because you're conviced that you're right, but try an eloquent argument instead of a 6-year-old's tantrum next time you want to make a point.

The Eagle train underbody and chassis is pretty much identical whether you turn it backwards or forwards.

Yup, Yup, and that's why the brakes are off to one side, as opposed to being "identical". When they turned the train around, the brake fins were on the opposite side of the brakes themselves.


Anyway, if you DO want identical, just look at a B&M underbody. Aside from the anti-rollback dog, which could probably easily be moved to the other side, it's the exact same thing.

[Timmy179]

NO NO NO it will never go backwards, nor will it ever need to. Steel coasters dont go backwards.

Less sugar, less stupid, there, son. You might be excited because you're conviced that you're right, but try an eloquent argument instead of a 6-year-old's tantrum next time you want to make a point.

Youve obviously been mislead, I first tryed to state that Raging bull backwards was neither reasonable, plausable, nor practical, and when that didnt get through their heads, I had to swoop to their intelligence level.


I'd beg to differ that it would be that easy, I know that it would be huge burden to the park, not to mention very expensive, I dont care what you say, it would cost a hell of a lot of uneeded money that could be put to other areas that need money.
also, why would you take a chance at risking the popularity of the coaster that every year draws crowds, and will be Great americas most popular coaster in the longrun.

[FParker185]

Mechanically RB's trains can not be changed to run backwards (well they can have traveled backwards as it's vallied during initial testing, and they also travel backwards out of the staiotn on a regular basis when they transfer trains off at the end of the night) but it would not be possible to switch the anti-rollback or Chain dog backwards, to be hauled up the lift.

If those were mechanically able to be reversed(short of doing alot of cutting and rewelding huge pieces of the undercarrage in different places with different orientations, which would immediately void any warranties and hold harmless B&M of any mechanical failures) there is no reason why the restraints would not be able to hold people in, not sure where that was pulled out of earlier in this thread.

Also there really is no good reason to turn it around, but I'll let others arguments for that explain it

[Danhockey04]

they would probably never run it backwards, it is good enough forwards, why run it backwards (it would be fun)

[Ilovthevu']

Just something to add about RB. (I am not going to post a new topic for just this, but I hope you enjoy the weirdness (if that's a word) of it.) I found this on rcdb.com under "Other Information"

"Theme: Named after a ferocious beast that terrorized the citizens of the old Southwest Territory until they fled the town and built the courtyard and mission seen today. The old mission serves as Raging Bull's loading platform."

Again, it won't be running backwards.

[Danhockey04]

Thanks for the info