GreatAmericanfox wrote:But like... why? Why promise something and not deliver Why throw away a genuine improvement for another roller coaster
I don't have kids myself, heck i'm not old enough for them haha. But even i recognize the bad state both kids areas are in. Also as it's been stated before families are the money makers and the ones to spend the most at these parks. I think it makes more sense for a kids area refresh and a family launch than a Giga
That’s why it doesn’t make sense and I’m not buying it for one second.
The park desperately needs a kids area before a Giga. And getting a Giga three years after adding a major B&M just doesn’t make any sense. This would be a huge disappointment if it turns out this way.
Not to mention that any plans they may have could quickly go out the window under the new CEO.
I would take any rumors with a grain of salt. The only thing we do know is that the kids area is not coming in 2026. And the park is celebrating its 50th anniversary.
GreatAmericanfox wrote:But like... why? Why promise something and not deliver Why throw away a genuine improvement for another roller coaster
I don't have kids myself, heck i'm not old enough for them haha. But even i recognize the bad state both kids areas are in. Also as it's been stated before families are the money makers and the ones to spend the most at these parks. I think it makes more sense for a kids area refresh and a family launch than a Giga
The announcements from the company that had all the new rides coming was not a public announcement. It was specifically for investors so they knew what was coming. It was just obviously then made public.
Look you can be mad you can not believe me I honestly don’t care I know what I know I’ve seen 4 layouts for the Giga It’s been in the planning stages already for the past 2 years and when the merger happened it was put front and center as a must for the park. They have huge plans for this park to drive revenue and boost attendance and this is only the beginning. The want to see us transform into a resort type destination just like Cedar Point and Great Adventure and a Giga will be the thing that can draw people from around the world.
I do agree we need a kids area but don’t fret cause it’s in the plans just not sure when it will happen now.
Don forget, We weren’t supposed to get Wrath this year…it was supposed to be the kids area and wrath was the planned coaster for the 50th and they swapped plans. Things get swapped all the time and who’s to say things won’t get swapped again. That’s why I said unless things change drastically the Giga is coming.
Six Flags recently affirmed, major thrill rides, not family rides deliver the greatest return on investment.
It's all about the customer base.
I am sad to see the kid's area being pushed back, but from a business standpoint, it makes perfect sense. Families do not have much expendable cash in this current economy. It's teenagers and adults who live at home; they are the ones who have the most expendable cash. They learned their lesson from Buccaneer Battle and will not waste money or real estate on something that has little to no return on investment.
Sky striker did wonders, pushing Great Americas attendance back above 3 million guests. We currently don't know how wrath performed, but from what I've heard, it did exactly what it was intended to do.
I'm still sticking with my prediction that sky screamer and cajun will be immediately disassembled and sent to Great America for 2026 along with the improvements for the 50th anniversary. The sky screamer pretty much has to come to Great America, because it doesn't have the proper earthquake bracing it needs for California's safety standards, ruling out Magic Mountain. Ragin Cajun is an easy fit right next to Joker and would require no retheming since it was originally built for our Mardi Gras section anyway.
ChicagoCoasterGuy wrote:I’ve been told the kids area is cancelled period and not pushed to 2027.
And you all need to start thinking GIGA Cause at this point unless something major changes it’s happening in 2028 The capital for the kids area is being held for that project. Kids area will then follow the Giga.
Take it how you want it But that’s what I’m hearing from many different people!
This is great news! Appreciate you sharing this info here.
I’ve been thinking GIGA since that Screamscape rumor. The park needs a world class coaster to bring in the crowds.
New kids areas only satisfy the local community, most of which probably already come to the park. I’m not against the new kids area, I just recognize it’s not a growth investment. People who travel for family /kids areas already go to Disney parks.
Tidal_Waver wrote:This is great news! Appreciate you sharing this info here.
I’ve been thinking GIGA since that Screamscape rumor. The park needs a world class coaster to bring in the crowds.
New kids areas only satisfy the local community, most of which probably already come to the park. I’m not against the new kids area, I just recognize it’s not a growth investment. People who travel for family /kids areas already go to Disney parks.
What if they can't afford Disney tho?
Also alot of the ideas people have for where this giga can go always feel silly
Old Great America was better, however I hope just a bit of that charm comes back
GreatAmericanfox wrote:But like... why? Why promise something and not deliver Why throw away a genuine improvement for another roller coaster
I don't have kids myself, heck i'm not old enough for them haha. But even i recognize the bad state both kids areas are in. Also as it's been stated before families are the money makers and the ones to spend the most at these parks. I think it makes more sense for a kids area refresh and a family launch than a Giga
The announcements from the company that had all the new rides coming was not a public announcement. It was specifically for investors so they knew what was coming. It was just obviously then made public.
Look you can be mad you can not believe me I honestly don’t care I know what I know I’ve seen 4 layouts for the Giga It’s been in the planning stages already for the past 2 years and when the merger happened it was put front and center as a must for the park. They have huge plans for this park to drive revenue and boost attendance and this is only the beginning. The want to see us transform into a resort type destination just like Cedar Point and Great Adventure and a Giga will be the thing that can draw people from around the world.
I do agree we need a kids area but don’t fret cause it’s in the plans just not sure when it will happen now.
Don forget, We weren’t supposed to get Wrath this year…it was supposed to be the kids area and wrath was the planned coaster for the 50th and they swapped plans. Things get swapped all the time and who’s to say things won’t get swapped again. That’s why I said unless things change drastically the Giga is coming.
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I'm almost positive this "resort" ambition died when the park failed to secure the land across the highway.
There's just no room for further expansion outside the park border unless someone is paid off to move. Not saying this is impossible, but I just find it extremely unlikely.
I have the same opinion as most in this thread, although a kids area doesn't appeal to me specifically I know in my head it's desperately needed. Even SFA, a park that just closed for good in it's slightly dilapidated state, had a better kids area than any of ours.
"I've been told that some part of every wish will be heard but lately I lost sight of the truth in those words."
With the kids area delayed and Go Karts being the prime spot for it,its going to be a little weird going in that area with it closed.
Yukon is already a dead spot for the park, now it'll be even worse. I'm kinda surprised they're not going to bother keeping it going for one more year with the kids area delay.
Not that website removal is a clear indication of removal, but we kind of have precedent after what occurred with Great Adventure.....
Goku1910 wrote:With the kids area delayed and Go Karts being the prime spot for it,its going to be a little weird going in that area with it closed.
Yukon is already a dead spot for the park, now it'll be even worse. I'm kinda surprised they're not going to bother keeping it going for one more year with the kids area delay.
Not that website removal is a clear indication of removal, but we kind of have precedent after what occurred with Great Adventure.....
Honestly the writing was on the wall for the Go-Karts as SFOG removed theirs, and it seems like the chain is getting rid of upcharge attractions. Also if i remember correctly the Go-Kart Season Pass which was a thing was removed. If it comes back for a final year, then i wouldn't be surprised since there was no survey markers or proper sendoff. But i don't think anyone cares
Seems like the good word of mouth for Yukon BBQ and Logger's in the summer will keep that area alive
Old Great America was better, however I hope just a bit of that charm comes back
GreatAmericanfox wrote:But like... why? Why promise something and not deliver Why throw away a genuine improvement for another roller coaster
I don't have kids myself, heck i'm not old enough for them haha. But even i recognize the bad state both kids areas are in. Also as it's been stated before families are the money makers and the ones to spend the most at these parks. I think it makes more sense for a kids area refresh and a family launch than a Giga
The announcements from the company that had all the new rides coming was not a public announcement. It was specifically for investors so they knew what was coming. It was just obviously then made public.
Look you can be mad you can not believe me I honestly don’t care I know what I know I’ve seen 4 layouts for the Giga It’s been in the planning stages already for the past 2 years and when the merger happened it was put front and center as a must for the park. They have huge plans for this park to drive revenue and boost attendance and this is only the beginning. The want to see us transform into a resort type destination just like Cedar Point and Great Adventure and a Giga will be the thing that can draw people from around the world.
I do agree we need a kids area but don’t fret cause it’s in the plans just not sure when it will happen now.
Don forget, We weren’t supposed to get Wrath this year…it was supposed to be the kids area and wrath was the planned coaster for the 50th and they swapped plans. Things get swapped all the time and who’s to say things won’t get swapped again. That’s why I said unless things change drastically the Giga is coming.
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I'm almost positive this "resort" ambition died when the park failed to secure the land across the highway.
There's just no room for further expansion outside the park border unless someone is paid off to move. Not saying this is impossible, but I just find it extremely unlikely.
I have the same opinion as most in this thread, although a kids area doesn't appeal to me specifically I know in my head it's desperately needed. Even SFA, a park that just closed for good in it's slightly dilapidated state, had a better kids area than any of ours.
They never failed at securing the land across the highway. They owned all of it and sold it off. When I say resort I simply mean I see them building hotels similar to Cedar Point with the Breakers & Express once that wow attraction that’s going to bring the people in from around the world is built. That’s what drives attendance and revenue.
ChicagoCoasterGuy wrote:They never failed at securing the land across the highway. They owned all of it and sold it off. When I say resort I simply mean I see them building hotels similar to Cedar Point with the Breakers & Express once that wow attraction that’s going to bring the people in from around the world is built. That’s what drives attendance and revenue.
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Where can they even build one? The land across 94 is sold off and i don't think they'll build a parking structure or sacrifice parking for a hotel. As cool as one would be.
Old Great America was better, however I hope just a bit of that charm comes back
They could build a massive on-site hotel if they were able to drain and fill in that retention pond. Don't know if that is possible though. That's a lot of land that isn't generating any money for the park
ChicagoCoasterGuy wrote:They never failed at securing the land across the highway. They owned all of it and sold it off. When I say resort I simply mean I see them building hotels similar to Cedar Point with the Breakers & Express once that wow attraction that’s going to bring the people in from around the world is built. That’s what drives attendance and revenue.
Where can they even build one? The land across 94 is sold off and i don't think they'll build a parking structure or sacrifice parking for a hotel. As cool as one would be.
A hotel or resort might be part of the development south of Washington St and it isn't too late for Six Flags buy a stake in that project. The developer from Kansas City that proposed a Topgolf wasn't able to secure financing. The village is still focused on finding a master developer for the project and attracting a mixed use development with entertainment, restaurants, retail, a hotel and a residential component.
ChicagoCoasterGuy wrote:They never failed at securing the land across the highway. They owned all of it and sold it off. When I say resort I simply mean I see them building hotels similar to Cedar Point with the Breakers & Express once that wow attraction that’s going to bring the people in from around the world is built. That’s what drives attendance and revenue.
Where can they even build one? The land across 94 is sold off and i don't think they'll build a parking structure or sacrifice parking for a hotel. As cool as one would be.
A hotel or resort might be part of the development south of Washington St and it isn't too late for Six Flags buy a stake in that project. The developer from Kansas City that proposed a Topgolf wasn't able to secure financing. The village is still focused on finding a master developer for the project and attracting a mixed use development with entertainment, restaurants, retail, a hotel and a residential component.
Ah ok so it may be possible, only other prefered option for me (tho unrealistic) is buyout Great Wolf Lodge
Old Great America was better, however I hope just a bit of that charm comes back
ChicagoCoasterGuy wrote:They never failed at securing the land across the highway. They owned all of it and sold it off. When I say resort I simply mean I see them building hotels similar to Cedar Point with the Breakers & Express once that wow attraction that’s going to bring the people in from around the world is built. That’s what drives attendance and revenue.
Okay.....where? The Parking Lot? Fox mentioned buying out Great Wolf Lodge, but that would be closer to CP's Express Hotel, which is far less attractive than Breakers which is on-site. I also have my doubts that one Giga attraction would be enough to be attracting people from around the world, the country, sure. Remove the Superman OG Clone and Demon then I'll be convinced.
I don't even consider the Express Hotel when I go because it saves you essentially nothing in money.
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"I've been told that some part of every wish will be heard but lately I lost sight of the truth in those words."
Great Wolf Resorts isn't going to sell. The Gurnee location became the flagship property when the headquarters moved to Chicago and they film all of the commercials here. It is a massive success with lots of space for future expansion.
I don't doubt the company has "big plans" for the park. I'm just skeptical because the park is clearly land locked unless we start considering a compromise or a land purchase. CCG, I understand you have sources, but you can't get agitated when we poke and pry for details out of curiosity or skepticism.
The obvious location for a hotel would be along Six Flags Dr, but that would mean the end of American Eagle. I'm debating making a poll to see where people lean, compromise, or land purchase?
"I've been told that some part of every wish will be heard but lately I lost sight of the truth in those words."
JackGlass wrote:They could build a massive on-site hotel if they were able to drain and fill in that retention pond. Don't know if that is possible though. That's a lot of land that isn't generating any money for the park
That pond serves a purpose though, it's what feeds the ponds and waterways from County Fair through Hometown Square.
Not positive but I think Eagle's drained barrel swamp is also fed by that pond.
"I've been told that some part of every wish will be heard but lately I lost sight of the truth in those words."
staticshadows wrote:Great Wolf Resorts isn't going to sell. The Gurnee location became the flagship property when the headquarters moved to Chicago and they film all of the commercials here. It is a massive success with lots of space for future expansion.
I didn't not know the headquarters were in Chicago, thought it be in Wisconsin or something
Old Great America was better, however I hope just a bit of that charm comes back
JackGlass wrote:They could build a massive on-site hotel if they were able to drain and fill in that retention pond. Don't know if that is possible though. That's a lot of land that isn't generating any money for the park
That pond serves a purpose though, it's what feeds the ponds and waterways from County Fair through Hometown Square.
Not positive but I think Eagle's drained barrel swamp is also fed by that pond.
Nice! I didn't know that's what that pond was used for.
I did a quick photo shop of Hotel breakers at Cedar Point just to show how massive that plot of land is
Goku1910 wrote:I don't doubt the company has "big plans" for the park. I'm just skeptical because the park is clearly land locked unless we start considering a compromise or a land purchase. CCG, I understand you have sources, but you can't get agitated when we poke and pry for details out of curiosity or skepticism.
The obvious location for a hotel would be along Six Flags Dr, but that would mean the end of American Eagle. I'm debating making a poll to see where people lean, compromise, or land purchase?
Honestly, i think the big plans are not what the expect us to assume if you get me
Old Great America was better, however I hope just a bit of that charm comes back
Goku1910 wrote:I also have my doubts that one Giga attraction would be enough to be attracting people from around the world, the country, sure. Remove the Superman OG Clone and Demon then I'll be convinced.
I don't even consider the Express Hotel when I go because it saves you essentially nothing in money.
Agreed, don't think we can pass fury, only way a giga coaster can attract people is if its taller or has inversions. Also a Giga is kinda pointless there's only so much that you can do with it until it doesn't feel special. Also, the only way this thing will fit is if most rides in the park already get torn out or they do something in the parking lot (which i don't think they'll sacrifice more spaces just to have people who are parking further walk longer). I don't think this thing will be as long too so you guys are gonna be underwhelmed either way if it happens
Old Great America was better, however I hope just a bit of that charm comes back
The Giga can be as tall as Sky Trek (330 Feet?). That would surpass Fury 325.
I'm wondering where it's going to go! Maybe around the perimeter? ChicagoCoasterGuy - I believe what you're saying. You have inside info......
A Giga would be the "WOW" ride that our park doesn't have. But don't sell our lineup short! I've talked with people who came to ride Goliath, X Flight and Maxx ( in addition to the other rides).
And hey, if we have to remove Little Slipper to make room for the Giga or new/delayed kids area, so be it!
Maybe we send Joker to Frontier City and bring back Ragin Cajun!
I also could see Giant Drop coming down to make way for the Skyscreamer from SFA. Giant Drop (or Generally Down as I've nicknamed it) rarely seems to run all 5 working cars and the 6th car is either removed or parked at the top. It seems like it's down often for "Weather" (when in reality its LOP - Lack of Personnel, as told to me by an operator a couple of years ago) and it rarely has a line except during Fright Fest. I hope I'm wrong since I love the ride!! SFStl removed their drop tower a couple of years ago. SFA has Voodoo Drop (smaller version of Giant Drop)
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