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Postby DejaVu2001 on June 16th, 2020, 6:53 pm
JT2002 wrote:https://www.reddit.com/r/Themepark/comments/h7oxpm/goliath_at_six_flags_great_america/fumola2/

Update on Eagle: "Eagle is being re-tracked in the helix and right after the helix this year and I think they’re done, they re-paint it every couple years. The ride is land locked right now is they tear it down they can’t build anything there because it’s too close to roads and the highway. The park renewed the lease for eagles trains for I think another 3 years."


People keep bringing up this nonsense with Eagle's trains being leased, and honestly I'm tired of it. They are not leased, the park owns them. I don't know why anyone would believe a park leases trains for a coaster that is 39 years old.

Also, the repainting every couple years bit is also nonsense. The station area was painted in 2016, and the lift was painted in 2017. Nothing since. Before 2016, the ride hadn't been painted at all since 2005.
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Postby B&MGuy35 on June 16th, 2020, 7:15 pm
JT2002 wrote:https://www.reddit.com/r/Themepark/comments/h7oxpm/goliath_at_six_flags_great_america/fumola2/

Update on Eagle: "Eagle is being re-tracked in the helix and right after the helix this year and I think they’re done, they re-paint it every couple years. The ride is land locked right now is they tear it down they can’t build anything there because it’s too close to roads and the highway. The park renewed the lease for eagles trains for I think another 3 years."
And on top of that all this nonsense that the park isn’t allowed to build anything in its spot. Can someone please show me the document that states this?

Please

I’m waiting and have been for years now.....


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Postby JT2002 on June 17th, 2020, 7:54 pm
DejaVu2001 wrote:
JT2002 wrote:https://www.reddit.com/r/Themepark/comments/h7oxpm/goliath_at_six_flags_great_america/fumola2/

Update on Eagle: "Eagle is being re-tracked in the helix and right after the helix this year and I think they’re done, they re-paint it every couple years. The ride is land locked right now is they tear it down they can’t build anything there because it’s too close to roads and the highway. The park renewed the lease for eagles trains for I think another 3 years."


People keep bringing up this nonsense with Eagle's trains being leased, and honestly I'm tired of it. They are not leased, the park owns them. I don't know why anyone would believe a park leases trains for a coaster that is 39 years old.

Also, the repainting every couple years bit is also nonsense. The station area was painted in 2016, and the lift was painted in 2017. Nothing since. Before 2016, the ride hadn't been painted at all since 2005.


I know the leasing stuff is questionable, but source has worked at the park for a good amount of time. Granted, that doesn't mean they'd know much that specific (they'd have to be at least a part time supervisor for that insight) but I trust the painting stuff for other reasons.
They say there isn't a spot in the park where rusting metal or peeling paint is at least 15 feet away from you.
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Postby anewman35 on June 17th, 2020, 9:46 pm
Here's what the actual law is:

c. The following setbacks are required for all structures and parking areas:
(1) 100 feet when abutting any residential district, which must be maintained in a
natural state. This buffer yard replaces any other buffer yard required by this
Ordinance. When groups of trees die in any buffer yard adjacent to residential
that result in the opening of views into the park, landscape material must be
installed to fill such gap, as mutually determined by the site user and Village
Administrator.
(2) 50 feet from Washington Street.
(3) 150 feet from Route 21 and I-94.
(4) 150 feet from Grand Avenue and Six Flags Parkway. Signs are permitted in
this setback when permitted by Article 13.

Looking at a map, the Eagle is good on the I-94 side and probably good on the Washington side (there's a tiny part that's close). I'm not exactly sure what Six Flags Parkway is, since I can't find a road by that name - if they mean the road that goes UNDER the Eagle, which Google calls Six Flags Dr, obviously that would be an issue, but I would suspect they could reroute that if needed.

So, long story short, I don't have any reason to expect the Eagle is going anywhere, but if it did I think they would be able to rebuild on the vast majority (if not all) of the land.
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Postby JT2002 on June 20th, 2020, 10:16 am
Northern Illinois food bank is doing another free drive in food pickup today until noon. I'm glad they're doing this, very helpful to many and the turnout last time was huge when I drove by.
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Postby UnclePennybags on June 22nd, 2020, 7:26 pm
Just took a Six Flags survey about virtual queues:

https://feedback.sixflags.com/advisoryp ... virtual&e=%%email%%&utm_source=surveyemails&utm_medium=email&utm_content=subscriber_id:&utm_campaign=2020-06%20Virtual%20Queueing%20(Round%201)
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Postby Dan The Coaster Man on June 24th, 2020, 4:41 pm
UnclePennybags wrote:Just took a Six Flags survey about virtual queues:

https://feedback.sixflags.com/advisoryp ... virtual&e=%%email%%&utm_source=surveyemails&utm_medium=email&utm_content=subscriber_id:&utm_campaign=2020-06%20Virtual%20Queueing%20(Round%201)


I enjoyed that survey. I have always wanted virtual queuing and am thrilled to hear they are considering it. It’s a huge undertaking, and I’m sure it won’t be perfect. Even in its worst form, virtual queuing for everyone *should* be better than standing in line.
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Postby anewman35 on July 11th, 2020, 7:07 pm
Some interesting SFGAm facts from a RMC tour:

-They essentially confirmed the SFGAm rumor circulating about a supposed conversion that ultimately didn't happen, but did result in Goliath

-RMC ideally likes around 18 months to design, fabricate, and build a ride, but that rarely happens because the amusement industry never works that way. Their quickest development was Goliath - the park essentially announced the ride when it was literally a napkin sketch (honestly, this was the craziest thing we learned on the tour)

https://coasterforce.com/forums/threads ... st-1090155
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Postby UnclePennybags on July 12th, 2020, 7:09 am

Nice to see Deja Vu (Aftershock) was operating for their visit to Silverwood.
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Postby B&MGuy35 on July 20th, 2020, 1:30 pm
Something is going on with Maxx Force
They are working on the launch and you can hear grinding and sawing of metalImage


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Postby RandomDoof on July 20th, 2020, 2:01 pm
B&MGuy35 wrote:Something is going on with Maxx Force
They are working on the launch and you can hear grinding and sawing of metalImage


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I remember a while ago Hank was at a village board meeting or something like that talking about the noise of the launch when the catch car hits the end. He said something along the lines on how they were gonna get some people to modify it and make it quieter. Maybe that could be it?
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Postby UnclePennybags on July 20th, 2020, 3:12 pm
B&MGuy35 wrote:Something is going on with Maxx Force
They are working on the launch and you can hear grinding and sawing of metal

They're installing a huge loop so they claim the world's tallest double non-inversion coaster. :)
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Postby Coaster Justin on July 21st, 2020, 4:56 pm
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Postby UnclePennybags on July 23rd, 2020, 7:14 pm
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Postby anewman35 on July 29th, 2020, 1:39 pm
The park finally went ahead and posted a 2020 map on the website. No Tsunami Surge as expected and not a lot of other differences I noticed, except for a number of food service locations (both in the main park and in HH) marked as 'Closed for 2020 Season'. So they've clearly already made some plans about how the main park is affected if/when it ever opens...
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Postby UnclePennybags on July 29th, 2020, 6:39 pm
anewman35 wrote:The park finally went ahead and posted a 2020 map on the website...

Good catch. They also updated the 2020 Dining Pass menu. Looks like it's just dining locations inside Hurricane Harbor and the dining places you pass on the long walk to the water.
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Postby coasterfanatic on July 29th, 2020, 7:36 pm
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Looks like they didn’t update it on the app yet. Still showing the non existent Pictor on!


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Postby DejaVu2001 on July 29th, 2020, 7:59 pm
Interesting that they specify which dining locations will not open in 2020, but not which rides will not open in 2020
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Postby MrsTaxi on July 29th, 2020, 9:02 pm
DejaVu2001 wrote:Interesting that they specify which dining locations will not open in 2020, but not which rides will not open in 2020


Oh? :shock:
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Postby JT2002 on July 29th, 2020, 9:19 pm
On the 2020 pdf map on their website there are a lot more restaurants that are marked as being on the dining plan.

The stuff that's closed is Hurricane Jane's in Mardi Gras, Funnel Cake Express in Yankee, Claimjumper's Chicken and snomixer in Yukon, Totally Kickin Chicken and Demon Funnelcake (had some work done to building), the County Fair food court Taphouse (I would guess they mean the bar they added), and % o'clock Phil's in the waterpark. These are mostly all small stands that don't really have much room for a line so maybe their strategy is to focus staffing larger restaurants where they can have more capacity.

Most rides have tested so their only restrictions if they open would be staffing.
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Postby Carlo on July 30th, 2020, 8:35 pm
I wonder if they plan to open the park with no rides after labor day when HH closes for the season. I can see them doing a fall fest or Fright Fest.
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Postby coasterfanatic on July 30th, 2020, 8:40 pm
They can’t open until the state gives them approval. With cases increasing across the state, the chances of the state allowing them to reopen are dwindling by the day.

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Postby anewman35 on July 30th, 2020, 8:44 pm
coasterfanatic wrote:They can’t open until the state gives them approval. With cases increasing across the state, the chances of the state allowing them to reopen are dwindling by the day.

See you in 2021!


I presume they could open the park with no rides if they wanted to - if they can open a water park, and zoos and botanic gardens and stuff like that can open, I can't see any argument that they couldn't open the park with no rides. I just can't imagine who would ever go to that...
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Postby coasterfanatic on July 30th, 2020, 8:45 pm
They got approval from the state to open the water park. They’d still need approval. And I just don’t see the state adding any additional closed business to the reopening. They will likely close things first.


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Postby anewman35 on July 30th, 2020, 8:58 pm
coasterfanatic wrote:They got approval from the state to open the water park. They’d still need approval. And I just don’t see the state adding any additional closed business to the reopening. They will likely close things first.


I don't think they actually needed approval from the state (and I haven't seen anything the I can find confirming they actually got it) - Water Parks were explicitly included in phase 4. It's not like every restaurant and barber shop and clothing store that opened in Phase 3 or 4 needed to ask the state for approval, they just did it. And keep in mind that they basically so have a decent amount of the dry part open even now, on the pathway to HH. I don't really think the state would be able to justify outdoor botanic gardens and zoos (without rides) but not an outdoor Amusement Park (without rides).

I'm not going to argue it further though, since it seems rather unlikely to me they'd even bother. Although Knott's Berry Farm is doing some sort of Food Festival thing, so I guess it wouldn't be that different.
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