The Park Closed the Pictorium for the rest of the regular season at least. We went to go see Screams and Dreams and it turns out they cancelled the shows. It also seems that they took it off of all the show guides and printed out new ones!
That is very strange. They still show it online. I wonder why. Was any reason given?
The Pictorium marquee says "Returning for Fright Fest".
stockboy300 wrote:Well I'm definitely going this Sunday if Goliath is opening. Any conformation on the 15th?
It would be somewhat unusual to open a ride before Media Day (which is next Wednesday) but I suppose anything is possible. We would have to see some evidence that ride ops have been trained. I doubt they would go into full operation with just supervisors running the ride.
There is absolutely no way Goliath will open on the 15th. I'm surprised they still think they can run it tomorrow for the commercial shoot since the Dive Loop is still missing about half of the steel supports.
DejaVu2001 wrote:There is absolutely no way Goliath will open on the 15th. I'm surprised they still think they can run it tomorrow for the commercial shoot since the Dive Loop is still missing about half of the steel supports.
Are there really missing supports? Do we have pictures of that? If they can test the ride like they did the last few days without any problem there should be no need for these supports.
sfgamguy wrote: Number 2 is that maybe the projector broke and due to Goliath they do not have the budget to fix it. The past couple of times that I went to the Pictorium I noticed the picture to be really fuzzy and super dark.
If it DID break, all I have to say is thank the heavens! That projector that they probably bought from a yard sale for $50 had/has to go!
The delay of opening, the problem with lifting the lift, the make shift welding fix in the overbank, the missing support in the stall, the uncompleted lift stairs, and now the lack of the dive loop supports with testing explain exactly how I feel about RMC.
I'm not trying to start an argument, and I can honestly care less when I ride the ride, but I am just not seeing a real benefit to this kind of design. Hopefully RMC will learn from this ride so they can become a reputable company in the future.
tp41190 wrote:The delay of opening, the problem with lifting the lift, the make shift welding fix in the overbank, the missing support in the stall, the uncompleted lift stairs, and now the lack of the dive loop supports with testing explain exactly how I feel about RMC.
I'm not an engineer either, but I'm guessing the steel supports add nothing to the ride other than longevity. Most wooden coasters are trimmed over the years due to the ride literally shaking itself apart. Mean streak is a great example of this. Running the ride a few times without it is no big deal, but normal operations would begin compromising the structure and require trims. The steel most likely just reduces the movement of the wooden supports during operation.
Edit: The over bank clearance isnt a huge issue either. Its fairly common for coasters to require minor adjustments after being built and before opening. Especially if its an intamin
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tp41190 wrote:The delay of opening, the problem with lifting the lift, the make shift welding fix in the overbank, the missing support in the stall, the uncompleted lift stairs, and now the lack of the dive loop supports with testing explain exactly how I feel about RMC.
RMC guys are engineers. You aren't. And as for the clearance issue in the overbank, just to clarify, that means you also think Intamin and Gerstlauer suck.
tp41190 wrote:The delay of opening, the problem with lifting the lift, the make shift welding fix in the overbank, the missing support in the stall, the uncompleted lift stairs, and now the lack of the dive loop supports with testing explain exactly how I feel about RMC.
I'm not trying to start an argument, and I can honestly care less when I ride the ride, but I am just not seeing a real benefit to this kind of design. Hopefully RMC will learn from this ride so they can become a reputable company in the future.
...become a reputable company in the future...? They aren't now? Last I checked, they have been building roller coasters for 15 years, built the number one rated wooden and number two rated steel roller coasters according to the Mitch Hawker poll. They also helped build T-Express, a very highly rated wooden coaster. I don't think RMC has much to learn. Their track design is proven. Their construction is proven. They have ground up projects nationally and internationally at this point. Wildfire at Kolmarden is being advertised as the best wooden roller coaster ever built. I bet it will be.
So...
Have anything else you'd like to share about RMC's reputation?
Agreed Scott. I would say RMC is one of the hottest coaster companies in the industry right now. Watch where Goliath ranks. Im willing to bet it will be near the top if not the #1 wood in Mitch Hawker and Golden Ticket in it's first year.
It's never a bad idea to overengineer your project. And in a structure like a wood coaster, I'm guessing there are plenty of redundant load bearers and stabilizers. I'm sure the ride would be plenty stable with a lot less material, but as someone mentioned, you want it to last, right? No one would ever send a train, empty or not, if they didn't believe the structure was 100% capable of handling much more.
[quote="diggerg56"][quote="stockboy300"]Well I'm definitely going this Sunday if Goliath is opening. Any conformation on the 15th?[/quote] It would be somewhat unusual to open a ride before Media Day (which is next Wednesday) but I suppose anything is possible. We would have to see some evidence that ride ops have been trained. I doubt they would go into full operation with just supervisors running the ride.[/quote]
I think it would be a great idea to open the ride to the public before media day good pr for the park and make the public happy sell more season passes and admission tickets it also gives the ride a good round of testing. I hope they do open it to the public on Monday before media day have a grand opening and let the public ride it . The 19th gonna be packed if they ever open it.
I don't think there will be any sort of soft opening for Goliath. Keep in mind that while both trains have run, they have not yet run both trains at the same time which means there's still a lot more stuff to be tested.
Has Six Flags ever done soft openings anyways? The only time I can think of any Six Flags ride opening before media day is Batman Backwards, and that was only because they promoted it as an opening day special.
. The 19th gonna be packed if they ever open it.