^There is a bit of a difference over at SFOG though. They technically have 2 BIG amphitheaters. One is just like the Southwest Territory one we have (It had a Batman stunt show) in their Gotham City, and the other one which is the Southern one is more towards the back of the park - around Great American Scream Machine / Superman, but towards the back. I think they also have another one that is like a Wilderness Theater size. They just have too many now that they don't do a stunt show.
So, if SFOG has cheerleader / band day for instance, they still can put them in the former Batman stunt show one over there.
I found this from chicagobusiness (really old story), and this is interesting to me:
Capacity for Great America shows: Grand Music Hall-1,470 seats; Theatre Royale-1,047 seats; Pictorium-986 seats; Western Stunt Show Arena-3,200 seats; Outdoor Wilderness Theatre-1,400 seats; Picnic Grove-3,000 banquet seating
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New Ride(s) for 2014
"I've been staring at the world, waiting. All the trouble and all the pain we're facing. Too much light to be livin' in the dark. Why waste time? We only got one life. Together we can be the CHANGE. So go and let your heart burn bright"
Looney Tunes is the only one of those shows that has any themeing in the park.
 So we have orange flags and pink paint around Southwest Ampitheater now. Due to the location, there is no way to get actual pictures of the markings.
Hmmmm....well, if they got rid of the amphitheater, that's still a very compact space to work with...unless they also plan to scrap the back part of the GD queue and potentially move RR. I don't think they'd alter the service road.
I'm going to throw this out there as I will other places.... What about the return of a Vekoma Giant Inverted Boomerang or other Vekoma coaster? It was taken out to disapproval -- I was there six times when it was standing and never got to ride it once. Its mechanical problems were great, and nobody really knew why they removed it and replaced it with BB. Think about the theme of the latest teaser video. --There are two "impacts" such as the two towers/drops, In every scene there are blue/green colors that match Deja Vu, "David" looks at the blue/green corkboard wall after the punch clock scene... Deja Vu had awards (the display case) and one of the Deja-Vu rides was named Goliath after it was moved and re-themed. The throwback maps (there are at least 5 in the teaser video) all had Deja Vu on them... and the only "new" map had the spot that is survey flagged marked area is in the park covered up, and yes, this spot would fit several Vekoma coaster styles. Also This would require a height variance and be around 160 Ft tall, and would have almost ZERO fear of being turned down since a similar ride was there in the past.
Really? The answer is right there.
It was down more than it was up. It was a great ride but it was always down.
::face palm:: It's gone. It's not coming back. I liked riding that ride but it was unreliable and had terrible capacity. Go watch the NCC video from 2008 I believe. Hank will clearly say they took it out because it sucked.
I feel that has to do with the Eagle. If they tore down the Ampitheater, and had the blue side gone from Eagle, that track could go in that area. Yet, I still don't think the potential Eagle new side would be being put up next year. It's takes too long of a time to do all of that. If it has something to do with Eagle, I think it's a 2 year project. Tear down half the Eagle during this off-season, and put up the other half next off-season. No matter what -sooner or later--, I feel that at least the blue side is going on the Eagle because they just wouldn't put a pink ribbon on the last part of the ride for no reason. It was there last year, and it's still there. They had us fooled last year because we thought it was going to happen, but than they had the show instead. Maybe, the plans changed at the last minute from last year. I don't know. Last edited by Ilovthevu' on August 12th, 2013, 8:34 pm, edited 1 time in total.
"I've been staring at the world, waiting. All the trouble and all the pain we're facing. Too much light to be livin' in the dark. Why waste time? We only got one life. Together we can be the CHANGE. So go and let your heart burn bright"
I hope they dont do anything with eagle it will just ruin the ride. I think getting rid of the Southwest Amphitheater is a good idea they could just use that big new ignite stage for shows concerts or competitions its big enough. The Southwest Amphitheater takes up a lot of space that they hardly even use at all plus they could easily put in 2 big attractions in that area who knows.
Maybe they'll put in a Vekoma LMS like Joker's Jinx and Poltergeist, the coaster would take up most of the amphitheater space and the line could wrap around the back end of the rollercoaster and end up having the front of the line near the path where Demon crosses over.
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A. The Great American SkyScreamer B. Increased Admission Prices C. Increased Parking Prices D. More Gaping Holes ***Trip Reports May Vary***
^ I don't think six flags corporation HAS any coasters like that. (Please correct me if I'm wrong) but it would be nice for another league changing coaster
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^Yes, they do. Joker's Jinx is at Six Flags America in Maryland, and Poltergeist is at Fiesta Texas.
"I've been staring at the world, waiting. All the trouble and all the pain we're facing. Too much light to be livin' in the dark. Why waste time? We only got one life. Together we can be the CHANGE. So go and let your heart burn bright"
^ Those are Premier, they were talking about a Vekoma LSM. Although there are currently none in the chain, SF did build one in 2000 at Walibi Holland when they owned it. Although if we did get something like that I'd say it's safe to assume it would be the Premier version as they just bought two coasters from them, and SF hasn't bought a coaster from Vekoma in 12 years.
^Yeah, your right. I didn't read his post right. I thought he was thinking that Joker's Jinx and Poltergeist weren't at Six Flags parks.
Instead he was talking about something like Rockin Roller Coaster at Disney's Hollywood Studio. "I've been staring at the world, waiting. All the trouble and all the pain we're facing. Too much light to be livin' in the dark. Why waste time? We only got one life. Together we can be the CHANGE. So go and let your heart burn bright"
This was posted on ScreamScape earlier today:
"Screamscape sources in the area have virtually confirmed to us that Raging Cajun will be removed once the park closes for the season, and the coaster most likely sent over to Six Flags America for the 2014 season. However nothing new will be added to that spot in 2014… the new project will be elsewhere." Thoughts?
Happy that it will be removed. Most likely means that 2015 we'll get a skyscreamer in its place and hopefully a coaster this year but only time will tell.
^^Well, most of us figured Ragin Cajun would be going as of July because of the photo shoot thing. The thing I'm confused about is that if the park is getting a Skyscreamer, than why wouldn't they put it in Ragin Cajun spot?
I believe the Eagle thing because of the stuff they are doing, but starting this late doesn't make any sense. What, are they going to have it open by August of next year? That's a waste of a new ride. If you don't believe me, look at how long it took them to redo Ratttler & the Texas Giant. They aren't that fast putting up these new steel / wood hybrid coasters, plus they have to take half of American Eagle down. This is what I mean: Rattler closed on August 5th 2012. It reopened on May 25th 2013. By leaving American Eagle open to Oct 2013, based on Rattler, they would open it again in very, very late July or begin of August. Texas has much better winter weather also, than Gurnee does. Texas Giant closed on Nov 1, 2009 & it reopened April 22, 2012. Last edited by Ilovthevu' on August 12th, 2013, 11:49 pm, edited 3 times in total.
"I've been staring at the world, waiting. All the trouble and all the pain we're facing. Too much light to be livin' in the dark. Why waste time? We only got one life. Together we can be the CHANGE. So go and let your heart burn bright"
So it was true after all. I really don't want Ragin' Cajun to go
 , it was one of the first rides I rode when I first visited SFGAm in 2011, and I always have fun when I ride it. But oh well, at least we'll still have The Dark Knight Coaster.
If Screamscape and the pictures of flags are to be believed, it's looking more and more like those of us who like Eagle as it is should be getting our rides in now. Glad Pam & I rode both sides Sunday.
I really don't get this. The challenge of building Eagle was so great, between the size and trying to design a race that was even, that legendary coaster constructor John C. Allen wouldn't even try it. It's the most visible part of the park from I-94. It's iconic. It's like talking about taking the ivy off the walls at Wrigley or the Monster out of Fenway. The uniqueness comes not just from the size but from the race — the idea that one side and the other side of this massive coaster are supposed to finish at the same time. You could ride Red, your friend could ride Blue and you could see who would finish first. It's a very much a classic, which is what makes it awesome to me, but it's one that was thought out and engineered to have a game in addition to an experience and a thrill, even if the race wasn't always very close. It brought new-school size and thinking to an old-school concept and was the park's first "big" statement. In fact, considering the land area it takes up, it was perhaps the park's largest statement ever. Plus, red, white & blue ... all-American. The American Eagle at Great America, a great American ride with an American theme in a park dedicated to the greatness and traditions of America. It's so right. As I keep saying — change both sides? Cool. Change only one side? You ruin the experience. You might as well leave the unchanged side to rot and collapse. Who's going to ride a crumbling, rough wooden coaster right next to a modern, speedy marvel? And how "great" is a coaster that you decide is only half worth caring for? One-half new and sparkling, the other half downtrodden. Some way to treat a legend. It's as if, in the end, we can officially declare the Blue side to be the "winner." That's not how Eagle's supposed to be, though. Sorry. It's a stupid idea. I'd almost rather they just tear the whole damn thing down and start fresh if they're going to do this. And, well, hey — if we want the pure, red, white & blue old-school ride experience without another coaster right next to it, at least we still have Screaming Eagle in St. Louis. Be a Fan!
If the AE conversion happens, it's a 2015 project at the earliest.
The other thing I don't get: If you're going to take out one of the park's classics, why Eagle and not Demon? OK, both are rough and toss you around, but at least Eagle doesn't bash your head into the OTSRs. I'd remove Demon before Eagle seven days of the week.
Sorry, guys, my heart's starting to mess with my logic side here. Eagle takes up a lot of land, doesn't have a ton of riders, is getting hard to maintain and is in need of some help. I get that. And just refurbing Eagle to make it literally like new, without really any improvements, like happened with Screaming Eagle, probably isn't going to bring back a ton of riders. But I really like traditions and nods to tradition. To me, Eagle is a huge part of the park's tradition. To me, it's venerable and something to be maintained, not ruined or screwed with. This is seriously screwing with what Eagle is and stands for. I hate that. Blech. Be a Fan!
Also from Screamscape: "The Screamscape Spy Network confirms that Six Flags does have plans to have Rocky Mountain Coasters completely transform and rebuild the blue ride of American Eagle. However… the incident on the Texas Giant may have put these plans on hold for the moment and a backup plan may be approved instead for 2014, leaving the American Eagle project as a possible 2015 addition. We’ll likely have to wait for the August 21st zoning meeting to know for sure what they are planning, but the survey flags near the Eagle are a good sign."
" ... good sign." Yeah, depends on who you're asking. Be a Fan!
Hmmm… if SF wants to give RMC a project, I'd rather just see Topper on both sides than 50% I-Box.
(As for racing, I'm sure the fresh side could have adjustments made to match the old side; these are smart people) Also, just to make an off topic comment on those Premier rides above: I think the spaghetti bowls are pretty sweet concepts. For the longest time I've attempted to create that concept in RCT (long before I knew these rides existed), but I suck at the game and my attempts never succeed at capturing the idea  Has anyone ridden a spaghetti bowl? Are they decent rides? Last edited by Sporlo on August 13th, 2013, 12:38 am, edited 1 time in total.
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