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Postby DejaVu2001 on May 20th, 2013, 7:33 pm
^ Eagle Blue is 4 cars of train #3. Both sides of Eagle will be running trains 2 and 3 this season. Both sides train #1 is in rehab.

As for X Flight, I don't know what happened yesterday or if it was ever open yesterday, but today's issue is the ride simply will not start up. Seems to be a ride control/electrical issue, which left most of the regular maintenance guys free to work on Superman's second train, couldn't tell how close that one is though. No progress was made on X Flight's second train, which leads me to believe that something must be wrong with the first car.
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Postby BURTONxBLUNT on May 20th, 2013, 8:28 pm
thanks for eagles update i really couldnt see how many there were as i was going up the lift but for xflight it was up sunday i had went to that ride first in the morning! but i think it was like between 2 and 3 that it broke down because earlier in that day it had broken down which i have no idea why! hopefully though xflights second train will be up soon because that one train operation on that ride is killing me
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Postby FParker185 on May 20th, 2013, 8:34 pm
I highly doubt it (x-flight). Kinda wondering if it's heading towards 0 train op :D
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Postby BURTONxBLUNT on May 20th, 2013, 8:39 pm
FParker185 wrote:I highly doubt it (x-flight). Kinda wondering if it's heading towards 0 train op :D


it did today :lol:
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Postby JimPanky on May 20th, 2013, 10:51 pm
0 trains is quite cost efficient. :lol:
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Postby PfightingPolish on May 20th, 2013, 11:40 pm
JimPanky wrote:0 trains is quite cost efficient. :lol:

It tends to hinder throughput, though.
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Postby DejaVu2001 on May 21st, 2013, 5:40 am
May 20th Update

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They finally finished the roof on the new security checkpoint

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Lots of rides had issues today. In addition to X Flight never running, V2, Superman, Raging Bull, and Whizzer all had downtimes


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This is what X Flight looked like all day

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Still 1 train at Superman.

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Maintenance is currently focused on Superman's train

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Not much progress at Crawler this week

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EDIT: X Flight has reopened.
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Postby FParker185 on May 21st, 2013, 9:14 pm
oops, my bad, wasn't clear, The second train on X flight anytime in the forseeable future I highly doubt. I figured it'd reopen with the one operable train sooner rather than later.
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Postby Cryptkeeper on May 22nd, 2013, 7:51 am
Pardon me if this has already been posted, but I saw a billboard yesterday adjacent to my train that said Batman would be backwards until July 7th (or maybe it was July 5th...I can't quite remember w/ 100% certainty now). Either way, it stops running backwards in early July.
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Postby DejaVu2001 on May 22nd, 2013, 7:59 am
^ July 7th. It will be running backwards for the Coaster Enthusiast Day on July 6th.
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Postby cab0218 on May 22nd, 2013, 9:17 am
If that is true I wonder why it would be running backwards such a short time.
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Postby Johnny.Ink on May 22nd, 2013, 3:28 pm
cab0218 wrote:If that is true I wonder why it would be running backwards such a short time.


Because it's a gimmick. And they'll replace that gimmick with another ride going backwards if the rumors are to be believed.

Also, Six Flags will be sending the chassis undoubtedly to other parks with the Batman ride, so they can run backwards.
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Postby coasterkidd100 on May 22nd, 2013, 9:18 pm
Just to let people know Whizzer and Demon only ran one train today.
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Postby BURTONxBLUNT on May 22nd, 2013, 9:50 pm
^im sure it was due to low capacity today Monday they were both running two!
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Postby Ilovthevu' on May 23rd, 2013, 12:18 am
What a bad year for SFGAm... for the guests.

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Postby Cryptkeeper on May 23rd, 2013, 1:01 am
Bad year for the guests...in more ways then one, perhaps!

Checkout this news story (includes video) from NBC5: http://www.nbcchicago.com/investigation ... 96341.html
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Postby JimPanky on May 23rd, 2013, 7:22 am
Demon had 2 trains on opening day.
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Postby DeathbyDinn on May 23rd, 2013, 11:58 am
The park hasnt even been open for a month. I think its a *bit* early to say its gonna be a bad year.
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Postby cab0218 on May 23rd, 2013, 12:55 pm
Cryptkeeper wrote:Bad year for the guests...in more ways then one, perhaps!

Checkout this news story (includes video) from NBC5: http://www.nbcchicago.com/investigation ... 96341.html


I saw that and was shocked. They claim that the employees were disgruntled. That was not true they were just trying to tell people what was happening. They went the internal route and were shut down. After getting uncooked multiple times I can see that they have many violations on their hands.
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Postby PfightingPolish on May 23rd, 2013, 2:32 pm
Cryptkeeper wrote:Bad year for the guests...in more ways then one, perhaps!

Checkout this news story (includes video) from NBC5: http://www.nbcchicago.com/investigation ... 96341.html

Huh. Interesting.

This is tough because I can see it from all perspectives. First off, from the park's: People only ride the rides because they're safe. If there is ever a feeling that the rides are unsafe, it would do major damage to the park's reputation and business. We know how dumb the GP can be. Having people see ambulances, golf carts or even first aid staff with people who have had any sort of ailment will have those dumb people making dumb rumors about rides being unsafe and will turn some people off to the park. So yes, the park very much has a reason to keep those sorts of incidents quiet and, as much as possible, handle them in house.

On the other hand, people who need care need care. For cardiac arrest, yes, that person should be gotten to a hospital ASAP, and also for a broken bone. But for a lot of the other injuries, you'd hope First Aid would be able to handle them.

The radio silence thing seems a little extreme on the park's part, but stories about injuries and accidents at amusement parks do seem to draw media attention (playing to fears gets ratings, and since perceived fear is part of what makes the park thrilling, playing to that perception becoming reality does draw attention), so it probably is in the parks best interest to keep such handling quiet. As for shuttling people out, maybe some of you who are former employees know better how that is/could be handled behind the scenes. I think about how many times I've seen ambulance carts go by at the ballpark and how I've never seen one in my trips to Six Flags, a place that certainly has a lot more things going on that could cause stress-related incidents or injuries. Makes you wonder.

I'm sure First Aid is underfunded, understaffed and probably ill-equipped to deal with a lot of issues. To be honest, though, I've never had to utilize it and I don't know if I want my Season Pass going up another $5 to make it better if I know, if something happens that truly is serious, I'd probably just hope I could be helped to my car and gotten to a hospital.

Calling them "disgruntled employees" was bad PR on the park's part and whoever worded that statement should be called out. But I also think the station is kind of on the warpath to "get" the park a little here. Having worked in the media, I can tell you: Because a clean-cut tale where there's a good guy and a bad guy is more compelling, often times the whole story doesn't get told, nor can it when you're limited to three minutes. You have to be really careful wording the statement when you're the park, because as part of the "get," they'll look for any way to spin it to make you look bad, as they did here. The park was probably right not to do a return interview, because the more they gave the station, the more they'd have to try and turn against them. PR ain't easy.

Hopefully, good will come from all of this: The park will upgrade First Aid a bit, review policy and put out some sort of statement reassuring the public in its next newsletter or something, but we still won't see medics rushing all over the park because, honestly, I really don't want to see that.

Much like sports, I think you kind of have to love theme parks to work at one because you're going to have to do things to defend them sometimes that might be a little unsavory -- such as enduring an upset, injured guest's complaint that they can't have an ambulance come into the park for their broken leg because it's inconsiderate to all the other guests. The person who thinks more about the medical side than the park side might agree with the injured person and feel like the park is being a big, bad menace. The person who thinks about the park moreso than the injured person might see it the other way. It's a tough call.

A lot of angles here when you think about it. Nothing's easy.
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Postby Ilovthevu' on May 23rd, 2013, 3:30 pm
I do think that the park is wrong not allowing ambulances to come and pick up the people if they are serious enough conditions like a broken leg, or heart attacks. These are the park's customers that paid the money to come to it, and something went awry with them. They are saying about bad pr from people seeing ambulances. What about the bad pr from the people that got injured or are having bad medical problems, and them telling all their family / friends that Six Flags Great America doesn't care diddly about them.
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Postby DejaVu2001 on May 23rd, 2013, 8:47 pm
May 23rd Update

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Superman's 2nd train was on the other storage track today

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After closing, they were testing Superman's 2nd train

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Whizzer does not like cold, especially when it is also windy, and blowing from the North. It did open around 12:30 after stalling a few more times :lol:

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Eagle's 2nd Blue train was being weight tested

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The Railroad also ran a few times today.

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Wooden stairs connecting to Railroad's exit stairs. No stairs anywhere else though

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1 train op = HELL NO :evil:

No update for X Flight's second train. The door was never open today so I couldn't check on it :x
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Postby JimPanky on May 23rd, 2013, 9:07 pm
All parks keep things very hushed and for good reason. Perception of safety and security issues can hurt park attendance to the point of closing a park. Keeping things hushed is fine. If it has lead to guests not getting proper treatment then that is an issue. It's hard to say if that really took place though.
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Postby Ilovthevu' on May 23rd, 2013, 9:15 pm
The thing with Superman's train also is that there is NO wooden + plastic thing around it, so they have to use the 2nd train pretty soon. I just don't get such low capacity on these rides. We are becoming SFA for goodness sakes!
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Postby SFGAm Viper on May 24th, 2013, 8:24 am
Folks, they are having a rough start. It happens. This park is not SFA. If it was you'd see 1 train on Raging Bull mid July.
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