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Postby Coastermonkey61 on August 11th, 2012, 3:41 pm
I took a hiatus from this board for no real main reason, but I'm starting to remember why. The ideas being thrown around this thread are mindnumbing.

NONE of the roller coasters are going anywhere. Remember how much the park hyped up getting your last rides on Iron Wolf last season? Any wind of that this year? Even a hint of Ragin' Cajun or Demon being popped out at the end of the year? It's such an easy marketing ploy to advertise a coaster is leaving, and we haven't even heard a rumor about anything like that happening. It certainly wouldn't happen entering the final days of the season.

People get caught up so much on what they want to see happen, that thinking about what makes sense comes in second. And what makes sense is to beef up the flat ride selection a bit. There hasn't been a main addition in the flat ride selection since, what, Revolution?

And let's not forget. Unless I'm mistaken, isn't East River Crawler coming back next year?
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Postby ViperFTW on August 11th, 2012, 3:57 pm
DejaVu2001 wrote: I have long been an advocate of removing Cajun. This however, would not be acceptable. You don't replace crap with worse crap. Flashback is the worst sit-down Boomerang I've ever been on, and that says a lot, because they're all crap.


As I said, to me it doesn't make sense. I was just trying to figure out if the Flashback rumors COULD be true at all. I also think that Boomerangs suck and would hate one in our park. I chose Cajun's spot simply because Mardi Gras is not a very popular area and something new there could beef it up a bit.
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Postby Ilovthevu' on August 11th, 2012, 7:51 pm
Coastermonkey61 wrote: And what makes sense is to beef up the flat ride selection a bit. There hasn't been a main addition in the flat ride selection since, what, Revolution?


There were more flats other than Revolution in that year including King Chaos, Big Easy Balloons, and Jester's Wild Ride. If you want to get technical, formerly Wiggle's World is filled with more newer flat rides than 2004.

As for American Eagle, I just have a feeling that they are going to close it down early - like Labor Day, and NOT tear it down, but as I said before maybe an excuse to shut it down to work on those kids rides in the tent to move them. The rumor is, is that Flashback is going to SFStL, and NOT SFGAm.. Also, there is a more sensible ride that they would be taken away at SFStL for the coaster - that being a Splash Water Falls type of ride. This wouldn't be the only one being taken out as of course across the chain - SFGAms & SFNE were taken out. SFKK stopped using it for a couple years before the park closed. I'm very confused why people are even mentioning it??? In general, they seem to be taking out a lot of regular theme park water rides across the chain. At Magic Mountain, they didn't take out the Splash Water Falls ride, but they took out a log ride. So, for Six Flags to be taking out a regular water ride at SFStL makes a whole lot of sense, and replacing it with a coaster which would be Flashback.

Skyscreamer you know we are going to get one of these years because that's the new thing Six Flags is doing. This doesn't mean it's going to be the greatest most wonderful thing, but they are probably buying like 8 of them, and than they get a huge discount because they bought so many of them. Really, I think that ride will be the next fad ride like Giant Drop.
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Postby ViperFTW on August 11th, 2012, 9:41 pm
Ilovthevu' wrote: The rumor is, is that Flashback is going to SFStL, and NOT SFGAm.


I think I need to stop looking at other speculation pages around the web. For some reason I read something about it coming here and then when I remembered about it I thought it came from this site. :oops: No wonder why it made no sense to me. Darn GP speculation pages! :x
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Postby xcheetaht on August 11th, 2012, 11:09 pm
Ilovthevu' wrote: The rumor is, is that Flashback is going to SFStL, and NOT SFGAm.


You never know.
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Postby putuhs84 on August 13th, 2012, 12:45 pm
I personally Would not mind the return of VU! I was highly bitter when it left, and even more bitter, that it now works almost flawless at Silverwood. I assume because they actually paid someone to figure out how to get it to work properly and use the stock running software? Who knows, but either way, I miss VU, who care's if ride capacity sucked. Clearly the ride can't have 2 trains, still my Fav ride of all time
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Postby Johnny.Ink on August 13th, 2012, 1:00 pm
So what is New England's Goliath then? A clone of Deja Vu from Great America?

I know it came from Magic Mountain, but if someone can explain I'd be appreciative. Going to the New England park next week so it would be cool to know what is up... :)
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Postby lord soth on August 13th, 2012, 1:06 pm
Goliath at SFNE was Deja Vu from SFMM. It is the same ride as our Deja Vu that we had but our Deja Vu went to Silverwood in Idaho as Aftershock.
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Postby putuhs84 on August 13th, 2012, 1:13 pm
I have been going there quite often to ride it, and i have family an hour out. It just boggles me that it was always down for repair, breaking while operating, but Silverwood seems to be having nothing but Golden Rays of Sunshine with the ride.

So i vote bring it back
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Postby Johnny.Ink on August 13th, 2012, 2:37 pm
lord soth wrote:Goliath at SFNE was Deja Vu from SFMM. It is the same ride as our Deja Vu that we had but our Deja Vu went to Silverwood in Idaho as Aftershock.



Thanks Soth. I figured it was something like that. It will be cool to finally after all these years check that ride out!
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Postby Ilovthevu' on August 13th, 2012, 11:31 pm
putuhs84 wrote:I personally Would not mind the return of VU! Who knows, but either way, I miss VU, who care's if ride capacity sucked. Clearly the ride can't have 2 trains, still my Fav ride of all time


Shapiro was very much about capacity, and about getting rid of maintenance rides (cough, cough --costs). I think if Six Flags figured a better and faster way to check the seats on Deja Vu, the ride wouldn't been sold off. However, they decided the only solution was to leave your harness in the air, and only check the seatbelt across the waist at one time. This will never make sense to me because Viper and American Eagle have seatbelts & lapbars across the waist, but yet they don't go back and forth checking the train twice. As I probably said a million times, if they had retractable seatbelts, they wouldn't have had to check the waist part of the empty seats.

I do believe that the reason they decided that would be the solution (check seatbelt / than harness at 2 separate times) is because they couldn't just open 1 row of seats like every other coaster. You can only open the whole train. Really, though how many times does it really happen that someone has to get completely off of the coaster nowadays. It happens once and awhile only, and half of the time it's about items. Well, the employee could just take it and put it by the bin. If it's about height, than the grouper should have done it. Also, back than a bit the park wasn't so bad about you can't have this on the ride, and you can't have this.

Another reason why didn't keep Deja Vu is because the Flash Pass was barely used for it, and grouper also hurt the ride because they were an extra person for an already costly ride.

--Sort of a rant about items, and how the park is very scared about people with items on a ride these days is that look what's getting lost / broken a lot. Those are phones, or what I hear a lot of is change from people's pockets falling out. So my question is, how many people are really going to store a phone / camera etc in a bin? If that's the real problem, than how are the bins really helping at all? It's people's pockets really that are the problem. They don't have anything to secure them, and than it falls down when they go upside down, or it could be just from wind. I can understand basketballs, sports bottles, and stuffed animals should go in the bins, but why couldn't everything else go on with the rider. Really, are people really going to lose their purse?

Back to Deja Vu, a couple of years their were so many times when the ride only went down for 5 minutes because of a sensor issue. The ride wasn't lined up in the station, and the mechanics just had to move it in the right place for the floor to go up. I wouldn't even be surprised if that was just a bad sensor. The thing is, a lot of people went out of line for something as simple as that, and them thinking the ride would be broke down along time when it was an easy fix. Shapiro however saw that as oh you have to have mechanics there about every hour. That's too costly- blah, blah, blah. Low staffing at the park also hurt Deja Vu. Oh, look the ride is broke again... No, they just didn't want to deal with the ride for the day because of the capacity, and decided to have some other ride open instead. So, than people saw Deja Vu is not operating today. It must be broken down. Nope..

At SFNE, I have checked a message board, and they are saying sometimes it's not operating. This is the one from Magic Mountain. So, they must have not gotten the new program that Silverwood did I guess. They also were going to get new Premier trains, but they didn't get them yet. They are going to get them next year I guess. I assuming if the new trains ever come to be that the ride won't have seatbelts because the seats are more slanted (which I think will worsen the experience a little bit), and hopefully the rows would be able to open individually rather than just the whole train. Maybe, Silverwood would even think about investing in this new train IF SFNEs worked good.
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Postby 6Flags4Evr on August 14th, 2012, 8:41 am
Are we really talking about bringing back Deja Vu?!?!?! Believe me, I absoulutly loved that ride as much as everyone else did but its just not going to happen.
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Postby tribar on August 14th, 2012, 9:26 am
Where did this even come out of? Flashback is a Vekoma Boomerang not a GIB and the chances of getting either are really slim. Let's use commen sense
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Postby rb1 on August 14th, 2012, 4:00 pm
Flashback I hope not the maintainance and the capacity on that thing alone is unreliable. Sf is better off selling it to another park or scrapping it. Zacspin or the Bizzarro or Scream rumors who knows.
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Postby putuhs84 on August 14th, 2012, 4:29 pm
When i was at Silverwood Last, the trains were NOT the same trains that Six Flags used, they had Thinner, More Spacious Over the Shoulder Harness' that didn't make you feel like you were drowning in your seat!

Its Either New Software and Proper FIXING that makes it finally work excellent, or its Six Flags who like to Alter the Programs to FIT There needs... Who knows.

Now Back on Topic! tribar: Why does it matter if COMMON SENSE, says we would never get it back, We are still gonna talk about it as a possibility. This is a Discussion board after all, If you can't handle people talking about that stuff, please just keep scrolling, no need to ruin the discussion for the rest?

I think it would be cool for once to see Six Flags get 2 coasters Back to Back, Look at when Dehja Vu came to town, it also came with V2... Another Sit Down would be awesome, Chang would have been an awesome replacement for Iron Wolf, maybe something like that!
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Postby xcheetaht on August 14th, 2012, 5:24 pm
Oh, my...American Eagle will be removed for the 2013 season possibly to make room for a very large coaster in the near future :o which is a fact! Unbelievable!

I don't care if you don't believe me, then you can wait to hear from the announcement on August 30.
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Postby DeathbyDinn on August 14th, 2012, 6:28 pm
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Postby stormalert123 on August 14th, 2012, 6:34 pm
how do you know the AE is not gong for very long tme at one point it will be gone i dont thin 2013 is going to be gone
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Postby ViperFTW on August 14th, 2012, 7:32 pm
I thought that Eagle couldn't be replaced because it was too close to the road...is that correct? And by the way, Eagle is a very popular ride in the park. Not only is it an icon, but its many people's favorites. Six Flags would've started advertising by now I think if it were going to be removed...they wouldn't leave people that short amount of time to get in their last rides...
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Postby Luxornv on August 14th, 2012, 8:44 pm
xcheetaht wrote:Oh, my...American Eagle will be removed for the 2013 season possibly to make room for a very large coaster in the near future :o which is a fact! Unbelievable!

I don't care if you don't believe me, then you can wait to hear from the announcement on August 30.


That was my plan all along.

As for the rumors of Deja Vu returning. It's like all of the rumors about your favorite athlete returning to your favorite team. Say it all you want, but it probably just isn't going to happen.
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Postby Ilovthevu' on August 14th, 2012, 10:08 pm
There were 2 things I saw at the park. One is that all of a sudden the kiddie train ride that was in back of Condor is now missing. Also, regarding that, now there is a small type of white trailer in back of Condor. They could have put the train in the trailer. I don't know?

The other thing that was sort of disheartening is that there were 3 head up people by Sky Trek Tower for a bit. If we get Skyscreamer, than is that the ride that would go because why would they be there? It's also in order of Skyscreamer, but obviously Skyscreamer is outside. Last time I seen an entourage of head ups, that was at the waterpark, and than came a new waterpark addition. They weren't mechanics either because I know what mechanics look like.
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Postby stormalert123 on August 14th, 2012, 10:40 pm
idk think sky scareams going there
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Postby xcheetaht on August 15th, 2012, 12:56 am
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Postby chester016 on August 15th, 2012, 1:15 am
xcheetaht wrote:https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=259872764129836&set=a.259801774136935.57544.259801370803642&type=1&theater

Where do you know this is from? This is for the 2013 season.


NO! It is not from the 2013 season. On the billboard is Mr. Six......Six flags' old mascot that was retired three or four years ago. That photo was taken a long time ago. There is currently NOTHING under construction at the park

Geez.....you people on here are getting as bad as the GP on Six flags Facebook page.

American Eagle is NOT, I repeat NOT going anywhere. The land that it sits on is too close to a road and can not be reused for anything. THEREFORE, It will NEVER be torn down. understand? It may be modified, or have topper track put on it, or refurbished, or whatever you want to call it. But I will say again.....It will NOT be torn down.

Also, Deja Vu will NOT, I repeat NOT be returning. The ride was put up for sale and was sold. It now stands at Silverwood and will be until the day it torn down for good. The ride company that built it went bankrupt. There is ZERO chance of one ever being built for our park again or of the old one returning. Why doesnt anybody understand this?

Please, can we at least try to use some common sense on this discussion. I understand its a discussion board, and that things are to be talked about. But lets not dwell on past rides such as deja vu coming back. Its not happening. And for the love of god.......the next person who says American Eagle is being torn down........well I just wont go there.
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Postby BURTONxBLUNT on August 15th, 2012, 1:26 am
^^^^^^THANK YOU for explaining that...people dont understand if ga gets rid of AE that land will be the towns land and not sfgam

xcheetaht - That pic is just a profile picture saying a new attraction will be under construction :facepalm: There is no new ride being built at this moment!
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