david wrote:I'm just going to say it. We're getting a 1300 square-foot expansion of Hurricane Harbor.
Featuring a near vertical drop slide.
Well I guess it will be cool for the say...one time... I will actually be willing to wait 45 minutes for a ride that lasts mere seconds.
I mean honestly, same with the Tornado, it may be a decent slide but to stand on those stairs for 40 minutes with that gigantic tube to take a ride that last 5 seconds + ... its not my thing.
So thus goes another addition to our park that will barely surface the media let alone the public and drive people in. It will be one of those things people see when HH opens the first day next year, and will say to themselves, "Cool, when did that get built? I guess I will give that a shot after I coast through the lazy river a few times."
Is it really that advantageous to continue adding water related attractions? I mean people claim CP is adding nothing next year, but I think getting a suspended swing that goes 310 feet in the air would be a hell of an addition compared to what we are used to.
I am sure adding a ride with a capacity of 100 riders an hour though will definitely increase season pass sales and draw extra attention...
I expect season pass prices to stay the same, or go up 20% to offset the coupon they gave us for going 5 times.
A loop waterslide will get people's attention. It reminds of Santa's Village loop when they were still in business and had the Typhoon. http://rcdb.com/497.htm?p=763 A slide that is just has a vertical drop in my opinion won't get much of an attention because all the waterparks have something like that already.
They did have a loop waterslide before at another waterpark (besides last year Noah's Ark addition), but they had accidents, and that closed down. However, this loop waterslide is on it's side rather than a Demon loop.
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^Agreed. People want to try new, exciting things. Thats just the way we are. I think a looping waterslide would bring maybie a few more people in, but most people would not just pay more than 30 bucks, just to try a new waterslide. Expecially if the new slide, is something almost everyone has riden before.
I did do some research this just a little.... It turns out a drop slide gets about 120-150 riders per hour.
If Hurricane Harbor hits capacity so much, I don't think this will help the capacity problems. I always dread that spiel over the PA....Attention guests, Hurricane Harbor is currently AT capacity, please visit us later this afternoon.
"I've been told that some part of every wish will be heard but lately I lost sight of the truth in those words."
Just imagine, all the great masses of people comming to ride the drop slide(if it is what we are getting)on opening day. I would HATE to be the last one in that line...
it's line will be 3 hours at minimum. It will get good reviews at media day and everyone will be really excited. But then it will flop like Buccaneer Battle.
"I've been told that some part of every wish will be heard but lately I lost sight of the truth in those words."
And if they get 2 looping waterslides, you know they will understaff 1 of them most of the time. lol I don't think this waterslide will flop like Buccaneer Battle. This is a thrill water ride, and people like the thrills in the waterpak.
"I've been staring at the world, waiting. All the trouble and all the pain we're facing. Too much light to be livin' in the dark. Why waste time? We only got one life. Together we can be the CHANGE. So go and let your heart burn bright"
Yeah i dont think its going to flop. The only reason i believe that is because look at noahs ark. The Point of No Return there was always gave a good thrill, but yet again, that is only a waterpark, and nothing else. I guess we will just have to wait and see.
Well there is no doubt it will be popular in the water park. But that doesn't fix the fact that you will be waiting longer for it than any coaster and that it will likely be 24 times shorter in duration than a ride on Raging Bull.
Good Lord, morons, I commented in the thread after seeing the hacked picture. There's a reason why that thread no longer exists and why this is has been made. It's that we shouldn't know what's coming even though some of us kind of do know, myself included. The reason I'm making these posts is because I'm being sarcastic. It's amazing how much people on this forum can't actually grasp that idea.
^Well, there is no question that water rides in a waterpark except for the Wavepool don't get huge capacities. The capacity for this looping slide might be 120, but for some of the slides that have tubes at the waterpark, there is time spent getting people set that takes time. Here you have a person going in a capsule / coffin, and if they push the button really fast to release them, than capacity compared to the tube slides shouldn't be that terrible.
I have never waited a hour and half at the waterpark for anything really. The longest was about 35 minutes maybe, but again for the most part I don't go on Saturdays which is going to be a terrible day to go to either waterpark, or regular amusement park.
I also have never been to the park in which a day that said No more people in the waterpark. They have had announcements to urge people to go into the waterpark, but it wasn't fully loaded, and they stop letting people in.
Honestly, I don't think the waterpark needs this slide, but I think it's more about urging people to come to the waterpark, and have it actually filled up more than what it is. How many times in emails do I see them saying go to the waterpark because it's hot out type of stuff? When the waterpark was built, they had a thrill family raft slide, and a slower family raft slide, a lazy river, 2 bowl tube slides, 2 body slides that are bigger plus what 4 body slides in the kids complex, a pretty big wave pool, a water playground thing, 4 enclosed body slides along with 2 more open tube slides. Than, they added the Tornado a year after the park was open. The waterpark has the stuff pretty good!
In my opinion, the regular park needs another thrill flat (Get a Flying Bobs and theme it western, and put it where Trailblazer was.) or maybe more than 1, and work with their shows. I think what the park should have done though is put Dark Knight in the Pictorium or Space Shuttle America if they made the roof bigger instead of Theater Royale. We lost a prime show place compared to the food place, or the little shows outside like in Mardi Gras. As I said before, if the park is really bad, start adding more employees for flats. Rue Le Dodge has a 3 minute clock, and they can't even get it running in 3 minutes with ONE person.
And this is how I look at waterparks even though I like them. Typhoon Lagoon got an estimated 2,059,000 people while the Animal Kingdom (the worst attended theme park of Disney World) got 9,590,000, and I'm sure that Typhoon Lagoon is a pretty crowded water park. Speaking in attendance, I divided the days it's open which is about 300 for Typhoon Lagoon, and thus that's around ONLY 6863 people a day. And yes there are some slow times for Typhoon Lagoon most likely, but 6863 is nothing for an amusement park. Doesn't Six Flags Great America get at least 15,000 on a bad day?
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"I've been staring at the world, waiting. All the trouble and all the pain we're facing. Too much light to be livin' in the dark. Why waste time? We only got one life. Together we can be the CHANGE. So go and let your heart burn bright"
^Well, considering the park has body slides (6 - 2 taller, 4 in the kids Skull Island), they have already installed 120 like capacity rides. And when they take capacities, you have to remember that for the tube slides, they are acting like everyone is seating 2 people in which that's not the case.
For the toliet bowls at the waterpark, those take around 30 seconds just to get around bowl itself, and you are probably looking at a lucky 200 people per hour with one of those. ProSlide says 360 per hour, but manufacturers always have perfect conditions, and it's never perfect. There is always a line for the Toliet Bowls. Is it because they are really good, or is it because of the bad capacity. I think it's for both reasons.
"I've been staring at the world, waiting. All the trouble and all the pain we're facing. Too much light to be livin' in the dark. Why waste time? We only got one life. Together we can be the CHANGE. So go and let your heart burn bright"
david wrote:Those aren't star attractions. If we have a near vertical water slide, that will definitely be a headliner.
Well in the water park industry it is a headliner but you aren't gonna fill the parking lot with people eager to ride that. It's already been done in the Dells, and of course its popular...but the theme park is still the bigger draw here and the only way to excite people is to install a new thrill attraction.
I mean hell, look at the build up it causes for every park. Puzzles, hints, viral marketing... its a major event every year... and yet what does it lead up to. A water slide? I mean cool that we get to maybe go in as much of a loop as The Orbit, but honestly who really cares?
I feel like a new slide will put off more of "I'll get to it" type attitude as opposed to, " I am going to be there on day 1" ... theres no excitement, no build up, no construction picture interest, nothing...
Coastermonkey61 wrote:Good Lord, morons, I commented in the thread after seeing the hacked picture. There's a reason why that thread no longer exists and why this is has been made. It's that we shouldn't know what's coming even though some of us kind of do know, myself included. The reason I'm making these posts is because I'm being sarcastic. It's amazing how much people on this forum can't actually grasp that idea.
As you were, kids.
Dude, its the internet. Sarcasm NEVER travels well online. Thats why you should always put a JK in what you are saying. And as a vertical water slide being a headliners, there has to be something VERY special about that slide, like as in the height.
Why does it have to be water related if we just got something that was water last year? I'm not complaining or whining about it, I'm just asking a simple question, that's all.
^Thats exactly what i want to know. ...maybie there planing on having a second, seperate gate for the 2011 season for HH?!?! Just a thought i had, no one complain that im wrong and stuff, cause i know the chances of this happening would be super slim.