Im surprised by the second one. SFGam must love wild mice. And a standup? I'm not bashing you but I don't think they would be good business decisions to add more of something you already have enough of, especially at the cost of probably 5-15 million
Here is my list of reasons why this would be a great addition for Great America. Some of them have been stated already.
1. It's a capacity whore (high throughput) 2. It's a Beemer so it will be reliable (minimal downtime) 3. It fills the void of a big sitdown looper since Shockwave was removed. 4. It's a custom layout (that should shut up the enthusiasts that complain about clones). 5. It features a Cobra Roll that the park lacks since Deja Vu was removed. 6. It has a built in sound system which would be a first for the park. 7. It has a long narrow footprint so it wont take up alot of space.
I finally retired the Sarah Palin signature because she is now 100% irrelevant.
Also, this could hover over the parking lot, and create a very small amount of lost spaces. And possibly no lost spaces at all! But this would require a variance.
Also, I don't want to sound like i don't want the coaster. I would gladly welcome the coaster to the park!
Putting a coaster over the ticket booths/entrance gates would be fantastic in my opinion. Seeing people whizzing through the air just as you are entering the park gives you an additional excitement factor. It would be a great use of space as well - provide the coaster is up high enough in that area, posts don't take up much space and would still allow people to walk around underneath.
Cedar Point has done a bit of this with Corkscrew and it adds a nice edge.
Having Ridden the coaster its dis-assembly and re-assembly by a good welding crew can do wonders, along with Six Flags being able to afford Poly Urethane wheels would help as well.
Chitown wrote:Here is my list of reasons why this would be a great addition for Great America. Some of them have been stated already.
1. It's a capacity whore (high throughput) AGREE 2. It's a Beemer so it will be reliable (minimal downtime) AGREE 3. It fills the void of a big sitdown looper since Shockwave was removed. AGREE 4. It's a custom layout (that should shut up the enthusiasts that complain about clones). AGREE!!! 5. It features a Cobra Roll that the park lacks since Deja Vu was removed. AGREE 6. It has a built in sound system which would be a first for the park. NOT SURE 7. It has a long narrow footprint so it wont take up alot of space. AGREE?
There are alot of things about this new coaster that I agree with Chitown about. Here's another possibility, a custom layout can have track going around Sky Trek Tower. I think that either a floor-less or a sit-down would work very well.
tribar wrote:Yeah correct me if i'm wrong but doesn't Tatsu go brielfy around the Sky Tower at SFMM
Yes it does, why can't we do the same thing here?
This is a proposal for a possible new roller coaster at Six Flags Great America. The site is the former Space Shuttle America (SSA) area. This is a custom layout which features seven inversions.
^ Is that an actual future plan, or just something you made up. Either way, it looks cool I would ride it.
"Park staff later claimed that they were offered a hundred bucks a pop to try to the slide, but refused after seeing that test dummies often emerged on the other end dismembered. The looping slide was actually closed down for most of the park’s life due to these injury concerns."
Coastermonkey61 wrote:He made it up. Led Zeppelin is skinnier than that.
Yea I made it up. Still, I would take a custom layout over Led Zeppelin any day. That kind of layout could easily fit, all you need to do is move the go karts to the former SWF area, or just remove the go karts all together and it would be a perfect fit. Like a glove.
There might need to be a few tweaks to the layout to get it to work, and i'm sure no one would miss a few 600-800 parking spaces? More and more are getting dropped off at the park, or taking the bus there, so the loss of how ever many required spaces for a new coaster wouldn't be much of a fuss.
I'm sure the park could add a new over flow lot to compensate for the loss, if there's room?
It may be a custom design, but I don't want SFGAm to take some other park's garbage. Led Zep doesn't look to be that good of a ride. I say a brand new custom design to fit our needs will work best. Hell, make it a B&M floorless.
Coastermonkey61 wrote:He made it up. Led Zeppelin is skinnier than that.
Yea I made it up. Still, I would take a custom layout over Led Zeppelin any day. That kind of layout could easily fit, all you need to do is move the go karts to the former SWF area, or just remove the go karts all together and it would be a perfect fit. Like a glove.
There might need to be a few tweaks to the layout to get it to work, and i'm sure no one would miss a few 600-800 parking spaces? More and more are getting dropped off at the park, or taking the bus there, so the loss of how ever many required spaces for a new coaster wouldn't be much of a fuss.
I'm sure the park could add a new over flow lot to compensate for the loss, if there's room?
Plus if they reopen the back lot im sure it will fit
Led Zeppelin/Time Machine is garbage. Ever ridden a B&M in built in '03 to '04 with a bad case of B&M rattle? Yeah thats you're whole ride on Time Machine. Its forceless, slow, rough, and heavily trimmed. After the MCRB its a snoozefest.
The layout twistedsteel made is also terrible, that landlocks the water park. You don't want that, it needs room for expansion also. It needs to go at an angel that Chang was going at.
How can a coaster that goes 65 MPH be considered slow? Seriously if this was an Intamin ride would that mean automatically its the greatest thing since sliced bread?
Jesus Christ, IF this coaster came to our park, (which has about less then 1% chance of happening but still) if it did, to complain and moan about it not being a custom lay-out (even though it is) and being "garbage" when its a B&M coaster is downright retarded.
Whose going to miss 600 to 800 parking spaces? Six Flags will, as that is a daily loss of anywhere from $12,000 to $18,000 in parking revenue PER DAY.
Galvan316 wrote:How can a coaster that goes 65 MPH be considered slow? Seriously if this was an Intamin ride would that mean automatically its the greatest thing since sliced bread?
Not at all. Some Intamins suck. (S:RoS SFA, thats my opinion.) And sure 65 mph is it's top listed speed but no way is that consistent. There is a trim right before the zero g that slows it down a little. Then the MCBR basically brings it to a stand still and does the helix and cork screw at a snails pace, which the cork screw would give good hang time. But this is all while being pretty rough. Its like a smooth Vekoma. Weird comparison but thats what I thought it was like.
Galvan316 wrote:Jesue Christ, IF this coaster came to our park, (which has about less then 1% chance of happening but still) if it did, to complain and moan about it not being a custom lay-out (even though it is) and being "garbage" when its a B&M coaster is downright retarded.
Of course this would be an awesome addition to the park. Its pointless talking about it because the chances of it happening are slim to none. It would be great because you finally get you're multi looper and hopefully be happy, but I was just mentioning its not the best Beemer out there. My experience on it sucked. It may have been brought down by the crappiness of the park but it was a sucky coaster.
Again, the ride was simply nothing special. Hard Rock really did have a knack for theme, evidenced by painting the coaster's track vanilla... What should it mean to anyone whether the ride has a custom-designed layout or not? Plenty of mediocre coasters haven't been cloned and therefore have a custom layout. Similarly, I'm just as happy to wait in line for Batman in Georgia or New Jersey as I am in Chicago because it's a quality ride.
A B&M looper would be great at this park from all sorts of angles, and if I were managing the park or had interests of those sorts then I would be clamoring for the cheapest, most efficient option. I'm not however, so pardon me as I leave that headache for the appropriate personnel.
How do we know LZ wasn't already running polyurethane wheels? As with all B&M's, unless the ride was unbearably rough (which I highly doubt it was) it is probably a better ride with nylon wheels than polyurethane.
