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Postby BigTopSkyCoaster91 on July 19th, 2010, 5:26 pm
I think it was an issue with an actuator rod. It was probably only one affected seat, but they probably tied off the whole row for safety reasons.
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Postby Goku1910 on July 19th, 2010, 9:33 pm
BigTopSkyCoaster91 wrote:I think it was an issue with an actuator rod. It was probably only one affected seat, but they probably tied off the whole row for safety reasons.


If there is ever an issue with lock/unlock, the whole car is tied out. So yes, you are correct.
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Postby RagingFanatic on July 21st, 2010, 10:37 pm
Iron Wolf is my favorite ride at the park. It kinda makes me mad when I hear people saying that Iron Wolf isn't going to be around much longer. In fact, I was there a few days ago, and we went with a FP. The line was into the zig-zags and posting a 45 minute wait! I think this means that Iron Wolf may be here for a little longer.
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Postby BigTopSkyCoaster91 on July 22nd, 2010, 6:17 pm
While I am a Wolf fan as well, having a 45 minute wait at any ride means nothing for its life span if every other line is long.
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Postby david on July 22nd, 2010, 6:33 pm
A short line will not kill a coaster. No lines will. If the coaster is constantly a walk-on then yes, it is more than expected to be removed. But Iron Wolf is not always a walk on, and I have actually never once seen it a walk on besides opening day. To tell you the truth, Iron Wolf's trains just need new wheel mechanisms, and TLC on the seats, like Red seats rather than Brown? haha

From what I've seen, Iron Wolf shows no signs of a departure from this season. It's having a lot less head banging.

I'm curious as to why the train rattles itself when it heads onto the MCBR (I know. Where it's supposed to be.) and the Break Run. Is there a way to stop that? Because it sounds like the train really bangs around badly.
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Postby zjohn1988 on July 22nd, 2010, 9:17 pm
david wrote:I think those seats wouldn't lock. They would just keep bouncing. At least that's what a ride op told me.


7 years later and that problem still hasn't been fixed? Sad...
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Postby Ilovthevu' on July 23rd, 2010, 9:39 am
david wrote:A short line will not kill a coaster. No lines will. If the coaster is constantly a walk-on then yes, it is more than expected to be removed. But Iron Wolf is not always a walk on, and I have actually never once seen it a walk on besides opening day. To tell you the truth, Iron Wolf's trains just need new wheel mechanisms, and TLC on the seats, like Red seats rather than Brown? haha

From what I've seen, Iron Wolf shows no signs of a departure from this season. It's having a lot less head banging.


The time of season a person is going to the park now is one in which everything has a line. Based on what you are saying than, no ride at our park will ever be replaced because they all have lines in July even Jester's Wild Ride. It just has to do with the overflow of people, and people not wanting to wait 1 hour and 30 minutes for Superman, so they ride Iron Wolf because it has a shorter line, and it's a roller coaster. For Fiddler's Fling in late July, it uses it's back line, and it could be 20 - 30 minutes for that ride.
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Postby Galvan on July 23rd, 2010, 10:49 am
david wrote:A short line will not kill a coaster. No lines will.



So by that logic Buccaneer Battle has what 1/2 a season left? :roll:
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Postby david on July 23rd, 2010, 1:00 pm
Bucaneer battle has lines, it just has such a high capacity that it basically eats guests. In a few years, the ride will lose a boat here, and there. And the lines will just get longer and longer. I think the issue is that it gets you wet, but it's so boring, no big splashes.
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Postby BLADE on July 23rd, 2010, 2:05 pm
david wrote:Bucaneer battle has lines, it just has such a high capacity that it basically eats guests. In a few years, the ride will lose a boat here, and there. And the lines will just get longer and longer. I think the issue is that it gets you wet, but it's so boring, no big splashes.


I was just there this last weekend and on Sat at 1pm, with temps pushing 90, we had to wait 1 boat. I've only seen a line over 10 min once in all my trips. Hopefully it's gone in a year or 2.
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Postby david on July 23rd, 2010, 2:17 pm
Ahhahahh!

...Wait, your kidding right? It was a pretty big investment. It's not going anywhere.
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Postby BLADE on July 23rd, 2010, 2:33 pm
No, I'm sure Gam is not thrilled that something so new is not getting much attention. A lot of the pieces could be put somewhere else and promoted as new, without needing much touching up, because they haven't faded too much yet. I doubt it will be moved, but you never know.
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Postby david on July 23rd, 2010, 2:38 pm
BLADE wrote:No, I'm sure Gam is not thrilled that something so new is not getting much attention. A lot of the pieces could be put somewhere else and promoted as new, without needing much touching up, because they haven't faded too much yet. I doubt it will be moved, but you never know.


Bucaneer Battle will not leave anytime soon. The Dark Knight has short lines, I guess that's leaving too? Also, Columbia Carousel is a walk-on. Guess we can say bye to that as well.
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Postby BLADE on July 23rd, 2010, 3:10 pm
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BLADE wrote:No, I'm sure Gam is not thrilled that something so new is not getting much attention. A lot of the pieces could be put somewhere else and promoted as new, without needing much touching up, because they haven't faded too much yet. I doubt it will be moved, but you never know.


Bucaneer Battle will not leave anytime soon. The Dark Knight has short lines, I guess that's leaving too? Also, Columbia Carousel is a walk-on. Guess we can say bye to that as well.


If you read my post carefully, I NEVER SAID IT WAS LEAVING!!!
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Postby david on July 23rd, 2010, 3:22 pm
Hopefully it's gone in a year or 2.
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Postby BLADE on July 23rd, 2010, 3:46 pm
BLADE wrote: I doubt it will be moved, but you never know.
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Postby BLADE on July 23rd, 2010, 4:12 pm
Bucaneer Battle will not leave anytime soon. The Dark Knight has short lines, I guess that's leaving too? Also, Columbia Carousel is a walk-on. Guess we can say bye to that as well.


These rides are not that similiar. Columbia has historical value. TDK had 2 1/2 hour waits it's opening year and still has moderate lines now. I only saw Buc battle with a significant line once it's opening year and for part of the day. When conditions are perfect for Buc Battle like last weekend and there is no wait, it says alot about it's popularity. I remember the lines for Splashwater Falls and Roaring Rapids when they were new, and the lines were waaaaay longer than what Buc Battle gets. In my 28 seasons of visiting the park, I can't recall another new, multi million dollar attraction having such low interest when it was open. Last year, the weather wasn't the best, which provided an excuse. After this year there can't be any.....None of the single digit kids I was with wanted to reride either. It seems to me like people will try it once, but don't need it again after that. So how long do you leave an attraction like this operating at this location??? After about 3-4 years I would think this question would be brought up and given some kind of answer. Do you really think a mostly landlocked park would leave it up for 15-20 years if it is not helping make profits?
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Postby Viper 88 on July 23rd, 2010, 6:52 pm
Columbia has historical value. TDK had 2 1/2 hour waits it's opening year and still has moderate lines now. I only saw Buc battle with a significant line once it's opening year and for part of the day. When conditions are perfect for Buc Battle like last weekend and there is no wait, it says alot about it's popularity.

I think anyone who does not like Bucaneer Battle is a little "F-ed" in the head. This ride may not be adventerous like Roarin' Rapids and it may not have a gargantuan wave like Splashwater Falls, and there may be no drops Yankee Clipper/Logger's Run. But this ride has something that a lot of other rides in the park do not have: Immediate walk on ridership if you want to get wet. I always get soaked on this thing once is all it takes and i am completely soaked and because there is no line and it is a short ride it helps me log more rides per day. Columbia Carousel will never be taken down sure the animals and other objects on it may be refurbished but it is the park's centerpiece for over 30 years. I think that it is everyones first memory of going to the park as a kid. And TDK it is a good concept but it should have been darker, there hould have been more light effects, and once they showed that stupid movie that should have been it for 2008.
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Postby BigTopSkyCoaster91 on July 25th, 2010, 6:50 pm
RBrulle wrote:But this ride has something that a lot of other rides in the park do not have: Immediate walk on ridership if you want to get wet. I always get soaked on this thing once is all it takes and i am completely soaked and because there is no line and it is a short ride it helps me log more rides per day. Columbia Carousel will never be taken down sure the animals and other objects on it may be refurbished but it is the park's centerpiece for over 30 years. I think that it is everyones first memory of going to the park as a kid. And TDK it is a good concept but it should have been darker, there hould have been more light effects, and once they showed that stupid movie that should have been it for 2008.


Battle: You have not been the only person to take advantage of this. On a daily basis, during the summer weeks, it gets a good 1k riders. I'm not rooting for Battle to leave or stay, but I like it as of now... even if it is a little random Pirate Paradise.

TDK: I had the privilege to ride it pitch black and no effects on... lemme tell you, boy was that fun. It's not a bad ride, but when you base it off of a movie that got great reviews... you immediately let people down when you theme it like they did.

I don't think anyone seriously said Columbia was going. It is clearly a landmark that I can see out-living the park.

...but, back to Wolf. I wonder if a new color, nothing obnoxious, would help popularity. GP is always saying, "what's that rust ride over there?" and I couldn't be more annoyed. I know it is just that color and only has rust on the catwalks... but, I wouldn't mind a new color to get people to stop. Oh! and I always thought it could use a tunnel perhaps on the 2nd drop [before going through the loop].
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Postby deja blues on July 27th, 2010, 1:18 am
Iron Wolf: I think a paint job would help enormously plus a lighter color would help with maintenance since the steel would expand/contract as much. I'm praying for new trains, but I think the hope of Chang trains coming to it is gone.

BB: I think it would be a great ride, but it's like watching Avatar at a theater then seeing Avatar: the air bender the next day. There is going to be some dissapointment when you no longer have a giant bright green roller coaster, but instead a small little water ride.

DK: Again it's a good ride, but as you have said they themed it really badly to a really good movie. I thought I was going to get scared out of my mind, but I only screamed during that really irritating, cheesy train honk at the very end. It just wasn't dark enough, you could see the track clearly so you new exactly where you were going. If they just reduced the light pollution and maybe added like a screen where the joker pops out at you, it would be much more thrilling and unexpected.

Overall I don't want to rant but I think people are just upset at how little our park gets, even though it is a good park. I went with a group of friends and they were upset that there was still nothing new considering we are the second most visited six flags park (behind great adventure) but we don't get spoiled like them. The one thing I will say about a new coaster is that it may not boost attendance, but it does bring up moral and it's great advertising.
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Postby bizarroboy on July 27th, 2010, 11:08 am
deja blues wrote:Overall I don't want to rant but I think people are just upset at how little our park gets, even though it is a good park. I went with a group of friends and they were upset that there was still nothing new considering we are the second most visited six flags park (behind great adventure) but we don't get spoiled like them. The one thing I will say about a new coaster is that it may not boost attendance, but it does bring up moral and it's great advertising.

Your so right. It's not always the fact that we have no other competition so therefore we shouldn't get a new coaster. It's the fact that people do get bored with the park eventually. I don't really know that many teens who would like to go to magiquest... :P
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Postby david on July 27th, 2010, 11:32 am
One of my friends was intrigued by how you could open up a chest with a wand. I then explained to him how it's basically like a remote. He was disappointed.
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Postby bizarroboy on July 27th, 2010, 11:41 am
david wrote:One of my friends was intrigued by how you could open up a chest with a wand. I then explained to him how it's basically like a remote. He was disappointed.

Did you go in and play? Lol
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Postby david on July 27th, 2010, 12:35 pm
No, but they et you see the wands and open a chest in the front, WHERE PICKLE IS! I LOVE THAT KIDD! (:
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Postby Ilovthevu' on July 28th, 2010, 10:49 am
BigTopSkyCoaster91 wrote:Battle: You have not been the only person to take advantage of this. On a daily basis, during the summer weeks, it gets a good 1k riders. I'm not rooting for Battle to leave or stay, but I like it as of now... even if it is a little random Pirate Paradise.

TDK: I had the privilege to ride it pitch black and no effects on... lemme tell you, boy was that fun. It's not a bad ride, but when you base it off of a movie that got great reviews... you immediately let people down when you theme it like they did.

I don't think anyone seriously said Columbia was going. It is clearly a landmark that I can see out-living the park.

...but, back to Wolf. I wonder if a new color, nothing obnoxious, would help popularity. GP is always saying, "what's that rust ride over there?" and I couldn't be more annoyed. I know it is just that color and only has rust on the catwalks... but, I wouldn't mind a new color to get people to stop. Oh! and I always thought it could use a tunnel perhaps on the 2nd drop [before going through the loop].


For Battle, wow that's terrible ridership. Goodbye Battle. Batman gets like 900 in ONE hour! Triple Play gets 500 people a hour, and for 2 hours that's equal to what Battle gets the whole day. I was reading that Columbia has 88 horses. That's a lot of people for one ride, but at the same time Raging Bull can have about the same amount of people on the ride, but have more than a hour wait. I don't go on Columbia because it's so darn slow. It's going like 2 miles a hour. Kings Island, Busch Gardens Tampa, and Kiddieland's were much better than Columbia. Columbia couldn't have went that slow before. I didn't remember it that bad years prior. Does it need a new motor or something? I can "zombie walk" faster than the Columbia goes around now. To me, for at night they need to rehaul the Columbia lights at least. They just look so dull.
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