Jcoaster95 wrote:Do you guys REALLY think they would replace it with something good, if anything at all?!
I love Iron Wolf, if you don't, then don't ride it. Simple as that.
The ride is in perfect condition. They would have no reason at all to remove it.
I love you haha. I agree with what you said. I too love IW, love her she-wolf intensity haha. The "history" for it is great too...I feel wed be givin away a lung if she left us. Another thing is, I HOPE that IF OR when it departed its ways with SFGAm, that not only will another park give her the TLC she deserves to be once again kick ass, but that B&M gives us another new addition to our lineup. B&M loves SFGAm & AltonTowers...look at our lists of prototypes & products from them. SFGAm: 1st beemer ever(IW), first inverted(BTR), first hypertwister(RB), then SUF. With Alton: innovative invert(Nemesis), first vertical drop(Oblivion), new gen flyer(Air)...soooooo point is haha, sorry, damn jimmy, you just babble...I HOPE B&M still loves us! ;D
Iron Wolf has needed major foundation work several times and overall needs a lot of work if they want it to stay running for a long time. What was the last rides that needed a lot of maintenence work and was unpopular? I think its name was Shockwave. Ive always really liked Iron Wolf but its not worth putting a lot of money into for maintenence if people don't ride it especially with Chang in the park. I dont know how long they plan on keeping it running but im pretty sure they would take it out before taking it apart to work on the track and joints (which is why I think they are OK with bringing Chang into the park).
Sadly IronWolf is pretty much our next Shockwave, as many have said. Some of us loved Shoclwave, yes, just as we do IW but as a majority it doesn't do much for guests. I hate to say that cause deep down I know its true, it hurts cause of the love I have for that B&M. I've gone rounds on it alone as my family rode FiddlersFling. Its like our SLC...when I bring friends from out of state/country, they expect it to be hell based off what they think they know, & end up bein right and hateful twords it. I say this cause ill admit, I went on every Vekoma SLC with the intention it was gonna hurt & be awful, & ill especially never ride SFNEs again, I almost cried. Haha
IronWolf is a baby to us, yes but maybe its time to give her up for adoption...I'm sorry I'm jk. AS LONG as she gets the TLC at another park, I would be happy. Nonetheless, I have a feeling B&M may have somethin up their sleeves for us...I feel it(as all you roll your eyes) haha. We love them, they love us.
So before Iron Wolf was rumored to leave, everyone wanted it gone. Now that it's rumored to leave, everyone wants it to stay because "zomg it's wolfie!"....
Why the change of heart all the time?
We wanted Chang, now it's all but confirmed we're getting it and what happens? People are complaining because it's not a floorless.......Jeeeesus...
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Might i ask. Why we talk about Iron Wolfs Future and Removal just because we are getting Chang? Yes there both Stand up, but are not both American Eagle/Viper both Sit Down Wooden?
Iron Wolf does need to go, do not get me wrong, but the layouts of Chang/Iron Wolf are different, making them unique each so they can both stay for now, i just refuse to ride Iron Wolf
^^To me, it's probably because Chang is going to be better than Iron Wolf, and Iron Wolf bangs many people's heads. On top of it, I would like to say that Viper, and American Eagle are two different types of styles of wooden coasters. One is a out and back, and another is a cyclone type. Little Dipper is a kiddie wooden coaster. To me, it's because Iron Wolf is so bad to many people, and that's why people go well they guess Iron Wolf will go because they are getting another stand-up. I wouldn't mind seeing another B&M inverted, another B&M flyer without taking the ones we have already, and I don't think the general public would think than let's get rid of Superman, and Batman because they are getting another one. It's just because Iron Wolf to a lot of people is bad.
Why do enthusiasts complain about the other inverted coaster at La Ronde? They have an inverted, and they are getting another one. It's because one is an SLC type of ride, and one is a B&M. If Dueling Dragons Fire or Ice came to that park, I really doubt anyone would complain about why another B&M inverted coaster.
Why the hate, and the love for the ride? It's different people. That's why. Some people still like it, and some people on this board hate it. Also, some people are going to be so worried about it being the first B&M ride that they don't want it to ever leave.
And people have said that B&M loves Great America, and that's why they get them. Ummm, I think it's more Great America sought out B&M to get a roller coaster, and they liked them so much, they bought so many. When Iron Wolf was installed, didn't it have different harnesses, and maybe it wasn't so bad in 1990? So, buying more B&Ms was not a problem. I don't know. They bought the next one in 1992 with Batman. To me, the banging the head thing on Iron Wolf wasn't so much a huge problem until they put in new harnesses, what 3 or 4 years ago. Granted, it was still a problem, but at least the harnesses were cushiony rather than rocks.
"I've been staring at the world, waiting. All the trouble and all the pain we're facing. Too much light to be livin' in the dark. Why waste time? We only got one life. Together we can be the CHANGE. So go and let your heart burn bright"
Yes, LaRonde GOT an SLC (EDNOR), & my old roommate brought up everyone's b$@&in in comparison to SFGAm...We have two wild mouse coasters BUT are they not TWO COMPLETELY different rides by two different manufacturers?! Yes....La Ronde gained a completely new ride experience. As will we with Chang...
now i said what I said basically as a joke only because we have an "alliance" with B&M as thery do with MANY other parks....I say this due to what they have said about us when they came to Cedarpoint(through a friend so I personally cannot confirm ), & what they have done for us....were special to them cause we have their first product & their best selling product & this is where it started...look at how many parks have either a Batman clone or an Inverted in general!
Even though the trains are basically Intamin model on a B&M track.....they (the trains) are far from the issue with the ride itself. In other words, *IF* the trains were originally planned to be swapped out for Chang's, it still would not solve much of the issue with the ride sturcture itself.
So, I personally don't see it sticking around much longer. I'm sure they'll dismantle, refurbish, and ship it off somewhere else in the chain that can benefit from it for sure.
After bein at the Great Escape, I could see it fittin in really nice there....after all they do have our "Rolling thunder", which was AWESOME! loved it. IronWolf would fit in great there....i just want another B&M to replace it to have that awesome title of 5 in one park!
The thing is we ALL know a ride is bad when you think if anyone really will miss it when it is gone. All past rides we lost were popular to some extent of feeling terribly sad when they left...Deja Vu, Splash Water Falls, Shockwave....Wolf is not one of them. Last time I rode it in 2009 I said I will NEVER do that to myself again.
It is the ride has great history but obviously very few people actually care enough to ride it even on busy days Wolf is no busier than a 20-25 minute wait time...time to take it out.
Since many of you were too young (or maybe not even born!) to remember this, but Iron Wolf used to be glass smooth. I remember it being this way back in 1995. Not sure when it started to get rough but the new harnesses made it much worse.
Hmm well I thought the old harnesses were worse, those ugly smelly reddish & yellow squared ones right?! That was a long time ago, or so it feels. What year did those get replaced with B&M ones?!
I think that was like 2000 or so when the new B&M restraints showed up on Wolf. I personally perfer the old ones by quite a bit cause they were wider, so your head had room to move without hitting anything, made the ride far more comfortable, however yes, after years of wear and not having them refinished all the ride hyde had worn off and it was bare open cell foam that acted like a sponge and absorbed everything it touched. They did have quite the stench especially on hot days.
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So I was watchin the Dark Knight Media day video the other day, & just got to thinkin about a comment John Gerdy said during its ceremony about our lineup.... "the kind of out of the box thinking you have with Iron wolf" ....So maybe they do like the fact its a standup, to them bein unique as to why chang will remain just that....? I dont know I'm over thinkin I'm sure. haha
I do not see the park giving the ride ANY update/rehab work ever. If they wanted to they would have done it already. It is 20 years old. It had a good run. The only way I see it getting some love is IF it is sent to another park WITHOUT a stand up. They will dump it next year or wait a year to find some lame ride to replace it with. I'd rather have empty space in the back where Wolf is than where Splash Water Falls was (in the middle of CF).
AGAIN David, PAY attention. I NEVER said because of old age. Heck Wolf is not the oldest by FAR. I just think it is stupid to think the park will keep Wolf when it has the same type of ride coming in only with a better reputation and Wolf's lines now are no longer than Shockwave's were in the end. Shockwave was taken out for two reasons mainly. It was rough/bad shape and nobody rode it. Otherwise it would still be here. The park knew taking out Shockwave would not upset many people.
Oh and I do have to say again if we got something to cover the whole in County Fair it wouldn't look so bad by Wolf where very few even look in that direction these days. Most just pass by the ride without noticing it.
haha. I agree with what you said. 
I too love IW, love her she-wolf intensity haha. The "history" for it is great too...I feel wed be givin away a lung if she left us. Another thing is, I HOPE that IF OR when it departed its ways with SFGAm, that not only will another park give her the TLC she deserves to be once again kick ass, but that B&M gives us another new addition to our lineup. B&M loves SFGAm & AltonTowers...look at our lists of prototypes & products from them. SFGAm: 1st beemer ever(IW), first inverted(BTR), first hypertwister(RB), then SUF. With Alton: innovative invert(Nemesis), first vertical drop(Oblivion), new gen flyer(Air)...soooooo point is haha, sorry, damn jimmy, you just babble...I HOPE B&M still loves us! ;D
), & what they have done for us....were special to them cause we have their first product & their best selling product & this is where it started...look at how many parks have either a Batman clone or an Inverted in general!
