Little Dipper location Chat

[onyxhotel08]

At least Space Shuttle is gone now and that area will be in use again very soon...SWF will get Go Karts so that leaves 2

[vprlvr456]

I think the obvious final blow was The Scary, Horrendous Wiggles. Before 07, I swear I actually saw a lot of people in BBNP.

Oh, and btw, this song is stuck in my head
Fruit Salad, yummy yummy, fruit salad, yummy yummy (curse you algebra teacher who says that song is a good way to teach algebra!)

[onyxhotel08]

I never would have thought Bugs Bunny would be less popular than some scary @ss Wiggles from down under.
Admin edit: please use proper grammar.

[monsterfan99]

^The Wiggles are the richest Australian entertainers.

[Jackluver18]

^ richest and the most annoying. Sad to see BBNP go

[onyxhotel08]

people have said those words before and nobody called it bad grammer which technically it is not

[Viper 88]

Wiggles world is terrible, honestly I would rather take my kid (if I had one) to Bugs Bunny National Park, The ONLY THING NICE ABOUT WIGGLES WORLD is the CANOPY or tent other than that i think is it an abominiation to County Fair. Leave BBNP alone they already dont have that much looney tunes indica anymore why take even more of it away? if they were going to do anything to the area open it up more and maybe add a theater with a character show.

[FParker185]

Unfortunately in this day and age, your theoretical kid would more than likely like Wiggles a whole lot more than Looney Toons. I'm not sure as I'm usually not up on Sat/Sun morn but is Looney Toons still on regular TV?

[Demon_07]

Other than Boomerang, I doubt it

[Necropolis]

Well im kinda glad BBNP is goin or at least we think it is. everytime i walked past there, there were rarely any kids. Maybe its moving to another park? Hopefully that will be the new location for little dipper. If not i would really like to see a better themed area where BBNP is. another food court with new chain restaurants would be awesome! hmmm...or maybe an area for guests to cool down, relax, etc. i think they got an area like that already though. Does anyone know?

[vprlvr456]

You see, wiggles are meant for kids, while Looney Toons is not. I've looked at both lands, and I personally think wiggles is the better land of rides. I mean, they have a fruit salad tower andd tea cups. (fruit salad, yummy yummy) Why Algebra, why?

[Demon_07]

You're absolutely right, the loony toons characters were aimed directly at teens and adults.

[Jcoaster95]

Other than Boomerang, I doubt it

What about SLC?!? lol

[david]

Well im kinda glad BBNP is goin or at least we think it is. everytime i walked past there, there were rarely any kids. Maybe its moving to another park? Hopefully that will be the new location for little dipper. If not i would really like to see a better themed area where BBNP is. another food court with new chain restaurants would be awesome! hmmm...or maybe an area for guests to cool down, relax, etc. i think they got an area like that already though. Does anyone know?

OMG this is Shapiro! Shapiro always says, "if it's not working, why should I keep it? I'd much rather have an area where the parents can sit down and enjoy VALUE entertainment."

Oh jeez..

[Chitown]

My belief is that the BBNP name is going to be scrapped, the Little Dipper gets added, but that area of the park still sports the Looney Tunes characters.

[david]

^ Kinda along the lines of what I was saying. They should re-theme it all to Thomas Town, and have a "mini" Thomas Town. I know Dipper wouldn't blend, but it won't blend in any kids area. The only thing that would need changing is some buildings, and the fiberglass on the rides.

[FParker185]

I think they should go old school and put adult rides in that area like back in the 70's when Scrambler and Yukon Yahoo were there. I would say a good fit back there would be a smaller version of the Huss Giant Frisbee like a Moser Sidewinder or Technical Park Typhoon would be a good fit, but we are stuck with SFGAdv's garbage frisbee back in county fair.

[vprlvr456]

You're absolutely right, the loony toons characters were aimed directly at teens and adults.

yes, you are right. On the collection of looney toons, the box says most of the cartoons are for adults

[Ilovthevu']

I think the problem is that you are saying Looney Tunes is just for adults, and I can't agree with that. They aren't swearing, and it's not racey. in my opinion, Looney Tunes is more for kids whereas Wiggles is more for toddlers. The toddlers are the ones riding those rides. Other toddler stuff from way back when is stuff like Barney, Mr. Rogers, and Sesame Street.

I personally think it would better if for example Triple Play was themed to Looney Tunes because those are the kids that would understand it better than a toddler going on a minature train in Looney Tunes area. South Park, Family Guy, and a lot of Fox stuff is stuff more for teenagers and adults. Sesame Street, Wiggles and so on are stuff when kids first to spell, and know their abcs, and so on. Looney Tunes is not educational, and could be more compared to the Flinstones than something like Wiggle's. I like watching Thomas the Train, but to me that is more educational, and could be for toddlers.

Than, you go up the line, and Batman is more for teenagers as you have tons of violence, and older language. Yet, some kids will go to the movie to see a PG-13 movie anyway, and they are 9 years old.

[monsterfan99]

^ The thing with Looney Toons being for teens and adults could be that kids have no clue who the characters are. There is the old phrase "out of sight, out of mind" and that is true here. I mean, how many kids will see a giant, red fuzzy thing kinda in the shape of a heart and go "That's Gossamer!!!" Kids may know who Bugs Bunny is, but unless they see the cartoons, they have no clue who the others are.

With the Wiggles, they reach the ages of around 2 to 6 or 7 age range. That is the perfect age group for the park to target with Wiggle's World. Some kids will out-grow the Wiggles early, but most kids pass the 36 inch height by that time anyways.

[Demon_07]

You're absolutely right, the loony toons characters were aimed directly at teens and adults.

yes, you are right. On the collection of looney toons, the box says most of the cartoons are for adults

That's probably so they don't get sued if a kid is influenced by the material

[BP317]

There are a lot of kids cartoons I would consider adult cartoons...I could make a pretty strong case shows like Spongebob, Rocko's Modern Life, and of course Ren & Stimpy are all very much adult cartoons but made their money off appleaing and selling merch to kids.

In regards to LTNP it was often closed and in recent years SFGAm treated it as a supplimental kids area, as evidenced by the A frame that was often in front of it that read "This area is closed please visit Wiggles World." Shockwave, The Edge, etc all had one thing in common: they were all popular at one time. If something is not getting riders eventually it will be replaced.

[Ilovthevu']

^ The thing with Looney Toons being for teens and adults could be that kids have no clue who the characters are. There is the old phrase "out of sight, out of mind" and that is true here. I mean, how many kids will see a giant, red fuzzy thing kinda in the shape of a heart and go "That's Gossamer!!!" Kids may know who Bugs Bunny is, but unless they see the cartoons, they have no clue who the others are.

With the Wiggles, they reach the ages of around 2 to 6 or 7 age range. That is the perfect age group for the park to target with Wiggle's World. Some kids will out-grow the Wiggles early, but most kids pass the 36 inch height by that time anyways.

I understand what you are saying (that they have gone down silently), but at the same time you have rides like Pinnochio (at Disneyland), Peter Pan (at both Disneyland, Disneyworld), and Snow White in which they didn't make any other movies since those movies came out except maybe Hook. Those rides are still doing good. I guess the difference could be though that Disney tells people the story of those characters in the rides whereas at Six Flags, there's Marvin the Marsian helicopters. It doesn't really tell me who Marvin is. The thing just goes up and down.

As I said before, when dealing with toddler stuff, you need unique stuff so people don't feel hey we have to go to Disney World, or Disneyland. Multiple dark rides at Six Flags (every park) would really help overcome that need to there's not enough (or unique things to spend that kind of money) at Six Flags for my toddlers. As I said before, Wiggle's was a waste because you have the same type of rides in the park already, or in Looney Tunes area already. It would have been smarter to just retheme the rides in Looney Tunes or Cartoon Network to Wiggle's World stuff.

[Coaster Justin]

I think they should go old school and put adult rides in that area like back in the 70's when Scrambler and Yukon Yahoo were there. I would say a good fit back there would be a smaller version of the Huss Giant Frisbee like a Moser Sidewinder or Technical Park Typhoon would be a good fit, but we are stuck with SFGAdv's garbage frisbee back in county fair.

I Personally would feel really bad if Bugs Left the Park, That would mean the 1st year of the park without The Looney Tunes. If it wasn't for Great America, Six Flags Would be very Different; They got Looney Tunes from Us, and then Got DC Comics and other Warner Bros. Products from Us too.


Instead of a Frisbee, I always thought a Big Ferris Wheel; Like an Intamin Coaster Wheel would work there called "Tweety's Bird Cages" cause it would be Pretty much in the Center of the Park.

[monsterfan99]

I understand what you are saying (that they have gone down silently), but at the same time you have rides like Pinnochio (at Disneyland), Peter Pan (at both Disneyland, Disneyworld), and Snow White in which they didn't make any other movies since those movies came out except maybe Hook. Those rides are still doing good. I guess the difference could be though that Disney tells people the story of those characters in the rides whereas at Six Flags, there's Marvin the Marsian helicopters. It doesn't really tell me who Marvin is. The thing just goes up and down.

Kids grow up on Disney movies, have since the 1950's and odds are, will for years to come. So families have copies of the movies on various home video formats. Even to this day, there are ads on TV for Snow White on Blu-Ray and DVD.

Looney Toones can not say the same. They have DVD's out, which are outstanding by the way, but the sticker price on them was huge until a year or so ago. Even with Blu-Ray, I have gotten every Disney Blu-ray for under 10 bucks with coupon. That also helps keep the ride relevant.

As I said before, when dealing with toddler stuff, you need unique stuff so people don't feel hey we have to go to Disney World, or Disneyland. Multiple dark rides at Six Flags (every park) would really help overcome that need to there's not enough (or unique things to spend that kind of money) at Six Flags for my toddlers. As I said before, Wiggle's was a waste because you have the same type of rides in the park already, or in Looney Tunes area already. It would have been smarter to just retheme the rides in Looney Tunes or Cartoon Network to Wiggle's World stuff.

This is the truth. The multiple times I've been to SF STL in the last year and a half, I try to do Scooby-Doo multiple times. However, even on slow days, there is still a line. Same goes with Monster Manson at SFOG. The one time I went to that park, it had the longest line of the day of over 2 hours. People love these rides and are basically a licenses to print money.

I actually like the Wiggles area in that it is shaded for kids to play in and has a stage show for them. However, the rides are not exactly a wow factor. I'm not sure what more they could do with the kids areas due to space, but something needs to be added at either Camp Cartoon or Wiggles World to stand-out.