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Postby sfgam1 on July 31st, 2009, 2:27 pm
According to facebook: "Six Flags Great America/Hurricane Harbor has made another step toward the green initiative; the Great America Scenic Railway now runs on vegetable oil."
What do you think about this?
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Postby FParker185 on July 31st, 2009, 4:27 pm
Good source of Free Gas, the park has a heck of a lot of deep fryers that get cleaned out often. Good move on their part. Wonder if now the tunnel by Demon will smell like fried foods rather than diesel.
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Postby greatamerica2003 on July 31st, 2009, 5:20 pm
With the way that the parks have been bleeding cash, I find it hard to belive that they spend the money to replace one, let alone BOTH, prime movers in the locomotives. I am sure its Bio-Diesel. Which is just fine for them! Kudos to the park for going that route.
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Postby zjohn1988 on July 31st, 2009, 10:23 pm
amen hahahahahah :D
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Postby FParker185 on August 1st, 2009, 11:57 am
Actually any diesel engine can run on vegetable oil without any modification at all. All it takes is a filtering system to filter junk out of the oil before they put it in the fuel tank. They tried it on mythbusters a while back.

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Postby FRD714 on August 1st, 2009, 3:16 pm
Yep, it is Bio Diesel. It comes out to about $1.75 a gallon. It is not just filtered out vegetable oil though. It's a blend of alcohol compounds and hydroxide based catalysts. I wouldn't run this in my truck though. Too risky if something goes wrong with the blend that goes unnoticed.
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Postby w00dland on August 2nd, 2009, 10:47 am
One step in the green direction!

Now they just need to get the power plant next door to stop burning coal...something tellls me the parks uses a lot of electricity. :lol:
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Postby Suf03sfgam on August 2nd, 2009, 11:56 pm
They are both capable of running either diesel or filtered vegi oil with a push of a button...
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Postby Coaster Justin on August 3rd, 2009, 6:56 pm
Now if only they can do this to the Antique Cars, I'll Be Happy.
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Postby Suf03sfgam on August 4th, 2009, 1:09 am
Coaster Justin wrote:Now if only they can do this to the Antique Cars, I'll Be Happy.

Not possible the only fuel that raceway will ever run on is gasoline.
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Postby RagingBullFan on August 4th, 2009, 5:41 pm
Gotta call you out on this one....

Raceway could run E85 Ethanol, timing would need to be adjusted as well as rubber fuel lines replaced (More than usual...).

Not that E85 is more "green" since it really is not....
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Postby FParker185 on August 4th, 2009, 8:31 pm
Problem with E-85, besides the fact it pushes up the price of just about all food, is that it really isnt much cheaper than regular gas. Last year when gas was near $5, E-85 at least around here was like $4-$4.25. If you're buying a new car, then maybe it's worth it. But for a retrofit, especially with 20+ cars like SFGAm has, it probably wont save any money after all the labor and materials spent changing them over.

At least with regular gas, SFGAm can probably manage at least a slight discount buying in bulk as every other truck they own runs on gas. Also not sure what the capacity of SFGAm's storage is, but if they have enough gas tanks, they can probably load up in the winter time and coast through most of the summer, and save a heck of a lot more money than they would buying E-85.
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Postby Suf03sfgam on August 5th, 2009, 12:45 pm
RagingBullFan wrote:Gotta call you out on this one....

Raceway could run E85 Ethanol, timing would need to be adjusted as well as rubber fuel lines replaced (More than usual...).

Not that E85 is more "green" since it really is not....


OK, I guess I will explain myself better since kyle is trying to crawl all over me already.. It is impossible to run the raceway cars on vegioil as they are not diesel engines. Now on to the next subject, could they run on E85?? Possibly but you will not see them switch over?? Nope i don't believe it would be worth it. I would bet 3 weeks paychecks that nothing but gasoline will run in go karts and raceway cars.
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Postby Coaster Justin on August 5th, 2009, 2:16 pm
Maybe they could have Magnets and Not need Gas. Kinda like Twilight Zone at Disney Parks. (Going from Shaft to Shaft Part.)
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