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Postby demonbulleagle on March 26th, 2009, 7:21 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5j1hMlxv0E

Take a look at this video. It looks like Wolf is running slower and therefor smoother in it. could this be the problem/cause?
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Postby Demon_07 on March 26th, 2009, 7:57 pm
^I think that's a mounted POV so it should look smoother.
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Postby demonbulleagle on March 26th, 2009, 9:13 pm
I'm not only talking smoothness. and it the whole train shakes then the mounted camera would too. I'm talking about speed.
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Postby BP317 on March 26th, 2009, 11:44 pm
That footage was taken as stock footage on its media day NINETEEN YEARS AGO. It was always fairly smooth up until like 2000-2001.
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Postby onyxhotel08 on March 27th, 2009, 12:18 am
Yup, the nice paint gives it away.
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Postby FParker185 on March 27th, 2009, 2:13 am
yeah, up until the early 00's IW was butter smooth except of course for the flatspin. I think if somehow, IW were to get a new or even used (hint) set of B&M trains, it'd be quite a bit better.

Also IW and it's trains were made by Giovanola which went out of business right after they built titan at SFOT, I think that is part of the problem, now it's being supported in house and by other companies such as Intamin and B&M, whos parts will never be exactly the same.
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Postby Ilovthevu' on March 27th, 2009, 10:17 am
I don't think there is anything wrong with the paint on Iron Wolf nor did on Batman before they did that. They are dark colors, and they don't fade so fast like other rides, or had blotchy spots (Deja Vu). I probably said this about 5 years ago, but it's whether you want to paint something dark (and it lasts awhile), or you want to paint something light that might get more attention (and you have to paint it a lot more). At Cedar Point, it seems every roller coaster is trying to get your attention.

I don't know how a ride can look smooth through a video. I think Iron Wolf is perfectly smooth right now, but I think the ride is getting bad because of the new harnesses that are quite bad compared to the old ones. A B&M train might actually not hurt so much.
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Postby demonbulleagle on March 27th, 2009, 6:30 pm
OH MY GOD!!!! The paint or smothness/roughness is not the point

Dosent it look slower in the video!

That is the point!

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Postby Demon_07 on March 27th, 2009, 7:22 pm
^Not really, no. :lol:
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Postby zjohn1988 on March 28th, 2009, 9:58 am
demonbulleagle wrote:OH MY GOD!!!! The paint or smothness/roughness is not the point

Dosent it look slower in the video!

That is the point!

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Umm...no..sorry..IW has a max speed of 55mph and I'm sure it is still capable of hitting that.

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Postby demonbulleagle on March 28th, 2009, 2:24 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwuy6VneTns

Watch the first part of this video. This will explain why other B&Ms are so smooth. And since IW doesnot run B&M trains there is the answer.
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Postby zjohn1988 on March 28th, 2009, 4:17 pm
You also have to remember that Iron Wolf uses Intamin manufactured trains. The assembly of a part designed for a different, larger part is a major factor to the roughness. It's like taking a phillips head screwdriver bit and trying to drill into a slot head screw..It won't work unless you tweak your part, which in that case would be sanding down the bit to make it fit the screw (or replacing the part to work). Same goes for the IW trains..there will never be that complete B&M smoothness unless the trains are replaced or re-fabricated to the specs of new B&M trains.
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Postby FParker185 on March 28th, 2009, 6:15 pm
IW has sprung side wheels, upstops also. B&M wasn't the first to use that technology. Most of what B&M uses was invented in the 70's by Schwarzkopf.
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Postby coasterbone on April 6th, 2009, 10:36 pm
A big part of why the video may have the illusion of slower ride speed is the lack of vegitaion when the ride was first built. The trees and plants flying by make it seem faster now.
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