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Postby FParker185 on January 18th, 2009, 10:54 pm
The lockers are leased from SmarteCarte, the park makes little to no money on them.

Though I must say that SFGAm's presentation was one of the worst and most absolutely pathetic presentations of the day. I honestly don't see why they bothered showing up. Their entire multimedia presentation consisted of slides of what has hanging on the wall of the season pass office back in Oct, and what is on the website, then they stated the facts word for word. After that she talked for a few mins about the entertainment lineup intentionally leaving out the pictorium show. Some other wasteful bullshit was spewed from her mouth then it went to Q&A. Where the pictorium show was dragged out of her, to resounding disapproval. After it was asked of her about the locker policy she came clean on that to resounding disapproval. When asked about the Mr 6 rumor she stated that she was debating saying anything about it to us during the presentation, and seeing as it was down to Q&A she obviously wasn't going to, though asked she gave us the lowdown on that.

I can honestly say that yesterday I was truly embarrassed to have Six Flags Great America as my home park.

And before anyone one brings it up, I do think SFGAm was at last equally bad as Cedar Point who also put on a real stinker, but at least he brought up some semi interesting facts about the various Cedar Fair parks.
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Postby Déjà Vu '07 on January 18th, 2009, 11:01 pm
The lockers were put in to help improve capacity. It is working since I'm seeing less stacking because bags needs to go in the loose artical bins and people just don't do it, or want to.
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Postby Demon_07 on January 18th, 2009, 11:02 pm
^Now that's just pitiful. Why did they even show up if they're not going to say anything that you don't aready know.
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Postby onyxhotel08 on January 18th, 2009, 11:45 pm
Did they happen to mention sports bottles going up to $14.99? Or maybe being charged while drinking from the fountains? Seriously, is the parking going to stay a rip-off and be $25 for regular? For who mentioned gutting the SWF area, believe me them leaving it like that for ANOTHER year just shows they would rather:

A) Keep adding cheap family rides
B) Add rides that don't utilize the area better
C) Charge ludicrous amounts of money for everything in the park and don't show how that is doing any good for the park whatsoever
D) Keep from the fans that they are uncreative and don't realize even a simple extra shop or picnic area would look good in SWF area with maybe a small fountain.
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Postby Demon_07 on January 19th, 2009, 12:18 am
I agree with you but having Hometown park and a picnic area almost next to each other makes little sense. Whatever gets put in there sadly almost guarantees the removal of GAR.
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Postby onyxhotel08 on January 19th, 2009, 12:34 am
Vekoma Big Air...Seriosuly check it out it could fit!
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Postby Demon_07 on January 19th, 2009, 12:44 am
With V2 already there, not gonna happen.
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Postby Déjà Vu '07 on January 19th, 2009, 1:56 am
Another problem, Six Flags hasn't been happy with Vekoma since Déjà Vu
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Postby FParker185 on January 19th, 2009, 2:59 am
They did mention sports bottles, I didn't hear the price, but they said that you will get free refills all day, then 99 cent refills the rest of the season. And you have to buy a new one, last year's are no good (not that anyone with common sense couldn't have figured that out, she just said it to be dicky)

She was asked about the Splashwater falls site. There are no plans for it, it will remain empty, presumably as is for the foreseeable future. She did say Space Shuttle America will again not operate in 2009 and it is done for, though we all know that, and look for "exciting new stuff" there around 2010.
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Postby demonbulleagle on January 19th, 2009, 9:08 am
Removing Demon Nachos is far from an improvement.
I will make it a point to go to the mini Johnny Rockets and ask for Demon Nachos with cheese and peppers. :lol:
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Postby onyxhotel08 on January 19th, 2009, 11:36 am
How can there be no plans for there? When planning BB wouldn't it be common sense to figure out what do do with the space right next to it?
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Postby MForce4ever on January 19th, 2009, 12:17 pm
LOL I loved how she mentioned Six Flags plan to go green and immediatly after she talked about getting people dryers hahaha. Something which is also funny is they are replacing the imax movie with a show about some robot named Dick Clark. Yeah Six Flags is going down the tubes lol whatever, at least Great America didn't get my SP money for 2009.
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Postby demonbulleagle on January 19th, 2009, 12:27 pm
They should just put a picnic spot in the SWF area, Farmers Market gets too croweded, sometimes i wanted to eat in the park but it was too busy so I just walked over to BK.
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Postby onyxhotel08 on January 19th, 2009, 12:31 pm
demonbulleagle wrote:They should just put a picnic spot in the SWF area, Farmers Market gets too croweded, sometimes i wanted to eat in the park but it was too busy so I just walked over to BK.


Exactly what I'm thinking. You can keep it simple, cheap and easy to put together.
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Postby yamcha on January 19th, 2009, 12:38 pm
I'm always shocked that people eat in this park, i mean a snack is ok but for actual food? just cross the street and go to BK, or Subway, or dare I say pack a lunch and eat in your car?
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Postby onyxhotel08 on January 19th, 2009, 1:02 pm
Burger King? Yuck. I eat Subway weekly anyway why would I want to eat it again going to the park? It wastes time and takes too long to go all the way back to the car, drive to a fast-food place I go all the time, eat and go back through all the people and cars to where I was before I left. Just makes more sense to eat at the park itself. Quicker and more convenient. You only eat once really through the day at the park anyway.
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Postby Colonel Mustard on January 19th, 2009, 1:20 pm
Stop being angry at the prospect that we still have land for future expansion. Splash was a nightmare, it was good that they removed it, and now in a few years we have space for a sizable new attraction. Obviously we got a sizable new attraction this year with Bucaneer battle, and I have no inside info, but I would guess a Hurricane Harbor Expansion next year...that is presuming current mangement is still in place next year. Which means that if they want to add something in 2011 in the dry parks, there are several sizable chunks of land which they could do that with. instead of having to take down an attraction that people like, that isn't a nightmare.
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Postby yankee Clipper91 on January 19th, 2009, 1:31 pm
Speaking of Splashwater Falls you can still see the boats at the corner of Washington St and Rte 21. They are just sitting there.
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Postby Bob O on January 19th, 2009, 2:16 pm
Why would people want to buy a sports bottle, when on most decent rides you have to pay a buck to put it in a locker, if the park cared about the guests they would make the lockers free like USF does for the first hour.

As for increasing ride capacity, the lockers did nothing at all to increase capacity, and on non-inverted rides there is no reason that you shouldnt be allowed to carry your itmes with you, it worked that way at WDW this past Dec. with no problems at allll!!
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Postby onyxhotel08 on January 19th, 2009, 3:17 pm
I buy the bottles at the end usually and just get a water bottle earlier or fountain water. As for as SWF, can someone take the pics of the boats? Why would they just be sitting there SWF was re moved almost a year ago. Why not just get rid of them? There are ways to make an area like that more appealing even if you can't use it right away. take down the queue lines. Cover the dry pond by adding flower pots or adding a shop or two. Advertisements. Anything. They are not even trying to cover up that fairly big area which doesn't help that it will be next to a big new attraction people will notice it. You don't need to spend a ton of money to make that area look slightly better. At least SSA is still standing that area doesn't seem so barren like SWF. Get a standing storage unit advertisement like it was used in early 2008 by Batman I think. Creativity people.
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Postby Déjà Vu '07 on January 19th, 2009, 3:23 pm
Actually they have increased ride capacity by quite a bit
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Postby DejaVu2001 on January 19th, 2009, 4:22 pm
onyxhotel08 wrote:As for as SWF, can someone take the pics of the boats? Why would they just be sitting there SWF was re moved almost a year ago. Why not just get rid of them? There are ways to make an area like that more appealing even if you can't use it right away. take down the queue lines. Cover the dry pond by adding flower pots or adding a shop or two. Advertisements. Anything. They are not even trying to cover up that fairly big area which doesn't help that it will be next to a big new attraction people will notice it. You don't need to spend a ton of money to make that area look slightly better.


My opinion on the SWF site is regardless of whether or not they are replacing it, they need to finish removing it. Flower pots isn't going to do anything, what they need to do is either dig the pond out, or fill it in with dirt (and eventually grass). As for the queue, they should remove as much of it as they can, especially the entrance. However, I'm not sure it is possible to remove the bridge portion of the queue without rendering the inner raceway track unusable (not that it gets used anyway, but at least it still could be used).

As for the boats, it doesn't suprise me that they are still there, there is no real reason to move them. They are not visible from in the park, and the ride is so outdated that they don't even have much value for parts.
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Postby onyxhotel08 on January 19th, 2009, 8:29 pm
See for some reason they can't understand that even if they can't afford a big new thrill ride the least they can do is finish removing the remaining parts of the ride and area, level it and do some landscaping or advertise on big billboards the concerts that are coming up. Put up a shop or two. Some many ideas. All very cheap.
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Postby Demon_07 on January 19th, 2009, 8:36 pm
It costs more than you think. A supervisor was telling me about how much it cost just for the groundwork of BB. :shock:
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Postby DejaVu2001 on January 19th, 2009, 8:36 pm
^^Putting a shop in the SWF site would be completely illogical. It would be completey inaccesible because of Raceway.

^ Fact is though, regardless of how much it costs, eventually, they're going to have to clean that up, unless they plan to leave it like that until the end of time :lol:
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