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Postby Ilovthevu' on November 11th, 2008, 6:44 pm
^^I think you just meant our Six Flags because bobsleds are bigger (SFOT and Great Escape), the mine train at SFOT is pretty big, mine train at SFFT, Gold Rusher (mine train at SFMM), Ninja (Arrow suspended at SFMM), some Shrawtkopfs can be considered family (Greezed Lightning at SFKK, Mind Bender at SFOG, and Shockwave at SFOT), and Cobra at SFDK (maybe- I don't know?). Wooden coasters have shorter height requirements than steel, and some of those might be considered family rides.

Of course, you have smaller family rides like Demon, Runaway Mountain, Arrow coaster at Great Escape, mine trains at SFOG & SFStL, Tony Hawks, mouse coasters like Pandemonium, Dark Knight, Road Runner Express (SFKK), and I don't know or care much about the foreign parks.

In my opinion, we have a ride like Whizzer, and a lot of the other parks have mine rides. The Arrow mine rides are a little rougher, but they have that really fun drop at the end. That's the best comparison I have to the other Six Flags parks rides. I like the Whizzer, and I like the mine rides. I can only wish we had both.

I don't really understand the problem with Superman Ultimate Flight. The ride is designed so a person can feel like someone is flying. The more stuff they do to you on that ride with your stomach being pushed down, the more chances of you throwing up. I can only imagine putting that train on a ride like Scream! I really doubt that people could take that.
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Postby JordanSDMF on November 12th, 2008, 2:04 am
^Yeah, I just meant SFGAm, and I was referring to larger scaled bobsleds.
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Postby Suf03sfgam on November 12th, 2008, 5:59 pm
In 2007 the ride ran the best due to a few of the mechanics tweaking it at the beginning of the year and Vekoma finishing with their tweaking in early June. The tweaking was supposed to be done at the end of the 05 season but a motor coupler on tower 1 went bad and halted the process. Corporate decided to trim the fat, looked at the books and yes the ride did have its banner year in 07 but previous years it didn’t satisfy them. I personally don’t see a little park like silver wood keeping the ride due to its high upkeep. Everyone that worked on the ride was more than qualified and capable! I hope this lays all of your concerns and questions to a rest...
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Postby onyxhotel08 on November 12th, 2008, 7:43 pm
I still think they should have waited to see how it did in 08. Now, one more time, can someone please tell me what put in the final nail in the coffin for Splashwater Falls?
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Postby saylorman47 on November 12th, 2008, 8:00 pm
^ If they left it for one more day, it would have torn itself down.

Also the pond was leaking like crazy.
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Postby Aftershocker on November 13th, 2008, 5:09 am
Suf03sfgam wrote:I personally don’t see a little park like silver wood keeping the ride due to its high upkeep.

Just because Silverwood is 'little' does not mean that we will ditch Aftershock due to high upkeep. We look to keep Aftershock running smoothly (like it did all season) and we look to keep it at the park for many years to come. Will Silverwood ever remove Aftershock? Possibly, only time will tell. However I can tell you that we look to keep Aftershock and plan on keeping in for many, many years to come. Dont think we will remove it anytime soon.

Suf03sfgam wrote:Everyone that worked on the ride was more than qualified and capable!

You make it seem like the operators here at Silverwood are not exactly qualified and capable to run Aftershock. I can vouch for all of my fellow Aftershock operators that we are just as qualified and capable of running Aftershock as the Deja Vu operators at SFGAm were.
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Postby JordanSDMF on November 13th, 2008, 5:35 am
In my eyes, a GIB is hard to fit in a park. It can't handle a big attendance of a park, but the risk of maintenance can ruin a small park.

I wish the GIBs were perfected. They really are amazing.
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Postby Suf03sfgam on November 14th, 2008, 6:02 pm
Aftershocker,

I am not referring to any of the silver wood employees, I’m referring to the mechanics at six flags. I’m not trying to bash anyone just replying to "couldn't fix déjà vu..." A GIB is an expensive ride to upkeep, I’m not going to list off numbers but it can be pricey…
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Postby ben_the_bear on November 18th, 2008, 1:21 am
They could have kept it, but to them the cost wasn't worth it. I'm sure whizzer costs a ton to maintain, but that's a ride that people have been riding for years. When families go to the park, parents remember riding that ride when they were kids and they have the same experience with their kids. For dejavu that's not how it was.

The ride is a great design and I really like how Vekoma is willing to try cool innovative designs like that and the tilt coaster. I think that the only thing that will keep ride designers in the business will be new, crazy ideas, such as euro fighters, new elements, compact (intamin), and S&S rides.
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Postby onyxhotel08 on November 18th, 2008, 1:25 am
It is probably for the best. There is NOTHING worse than having such a great ride (A lot of peoples fave) down for long period of time. Every ride ran smoothly most of the time but I read on many trip reports how Deja was either completely down or closed early and/or was up, down, up, down. Most of the time you didn't know if you were gonna be able to ride it when you planned your visit. We don't have that problem anymore. I hope it won't change next year with Yankee Clipper. I LOVE it.
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Postby tp41190 on November 18th, 2008, 1:44 am
I honestly think that they had good intentions but it did not work out as well as planned.

1. having the ride half dissembled confused people the first few weeks
2. taking out a huge thrill ride with out replacing it
3. taking it out with 2 other rides in the same year
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Postby BMRider on November 22nd, 2008, 12:25 pm
Aftershocker wrote:During the first maybe 2 or 3 weeks, Aftershock still had various Six Flags gremblins in the system (such as Six Flags-made programs in the computers that were not Vekoma authorized), however they were fixed and Aftershock had minimal downtime for the rest of the season. Vekoma helping getting this ride running like a champ helped tremendously too.



Removing the enhanced safety features is the reason why they don't have as much downtime. Yes they have maintenance that can probably stay at the ride to reset the small things. GA had sensors put in to notice potential problems which told us when parts needed to be repaired. Vekoma designed the ride so that the computer would not signal that sensors/parts needed to be replaced until they were damaged to the point where they could not work anymore which causes more money to be spent. I think removing our safety features will cause them problems in the long run.
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Postby Jerrykoala2112 on November 30th, 2008, 12:23 am
Maybe Great America wanted to make a quick buck :)
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Postby onyxhotel08 on December 7th, 2008, 7:49 pm
I don't think Great America had much to do with it. I think if it was up to our park people Deja Vu would still be here... :(
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Postby Chitown on December 8th, 2008, 11:40 pm
Jerrykoala2112 wrote:Maybe Great America wanted to make a quick buck :)


From what I have heard, Six Flags basically gave this coaster away. The majority of cost for Silverwood was disassembly, transport, and re-assemble costs.

Heck, when the 2 DV'S went up for sale on a used ride site, they said to "make an offer". Most 7 year old coasters don't usually have "make an offer" status unless the ride was to costly or useless to the park selling it.
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Postby onyxhotel08 on December 9th, 2008, 1:18 am
Yeah you're probably right.
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