I am not sure about most people knowing the chain is in debt UWW (excellent posts by the way). If you ask guests in the park if they know the park is on the verge of bankruptcy, I would wager more than half would have no clue.
I am all for getting a new exciting mega coaster, but I know that it is probably not going to happen for a long time. Times are changing, or have changed, and, as stated numerous times on these boards, the era of multi-million dollar coasters every year for Six Flags have come to a close for right now. The old regime targeted only one group of individuals, and tried to please them. Now the chain suffers for it.
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What should replace Deja Vu and Splashwater Falls?
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I sure hope they dont take out Iron Wolf or Whizzer. Whizzer is a great family ride, but I'm assuming its hard to get parts for it and such because of its age and the fact its like the only one of its kind left i think? Just give Iron Wolf new trains or something. I actually love Ironwolf
No doubt the Wolf is fun if you know how to ride it which is something many do not know how to do and the result is much complaining. A revamp would help it and if possible some softer restraints to shut people up. I think its sorta lame how guys always have to make a scene about the restraints at the crotch, honestly you chose to go on the ride knowing exactly how its gonna be. And the head banging issue can be avoided if you hold you head forward away from the restraints, your head has muscles just try to hold it in place a little bit forward and you will be good. As for Whizzer, its a classic yes but i notice it down almost each time i am there for some period of time. Its a fun ride but only with a flash pass for me. Its a good ride to take a quick rest on. But honestly what could that space even be used for you know? Unless they knock down all the trees in those two areas.
^You know what happened when they tried getting rid of Whizzer before? People got upset, so upset that SF took out Shockwave instead! Many rides in the park are still loved by people. And Iron Wolf is rough only because it was B&M's first coaster so they used Intamin trains because they didn't make there own. So if SF doesn't get a new coaster, the least they could do would be get new trains for Iron Wolf and repaint it. (I'd like to see it with red track and white/grey supports to match the trains)
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Yeah but that was 2002. This is 2008 and Whizzer requires a lot of $$ every year and the park will probably take it down in the next 2-3 years anyway. I would much rather lose Whizzer than Iron Wolf. Wolf just needs new trains.
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Yup. I hate it when people complain about banging there heads on Iron Wolf. Sure it throws you around a bit, but what roller coaster doesn't. All you have to do is keep your head to one side THE ENTIRE RIDE. It's not that hard. As for Whizzer, I really don't care. Rode it once and never really left a spectacular impression on my mind. poor wolfie rip
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DejaVu's removal was mainly because of complaints and downtime, not necessarily because of bad capacity. When a headliner attraction like that is down as much as it was it just generates tons of uprising. When you get complaint letters like "DejaVu kept breaking down while I was in line and wasted my whole day in line for it and didnt get to ride it, I will not be coming to Six Flags and giving you any business anymore because its a ripoff," times that by thousands and you have the "costs" to the park from DejaVu. The other major cost of DejaVu was the time it cost every year to give special attention. They did huge rehabs and ride control re-programs, etc on it every year to get it to operate more consistantly. When they start up that ride for the season, it takes weeks to get operating corretly. When there were major weather changes, it takes weeks to get it to operate correctly. Six Flags didnt have the resources and didnt want to deal with that. In terms of actual maintenence DJV would need to replace parts a lot more than most rides but mechanically was in very good shape and wasnt that much more money wise, the main cost was time. V2 still cost significantly more to maintain/operate.
Whizzer wont get removed, its still one of the more popular rides in the park.
Wolf needs a LOT more than new trains.
Whizzer will probaly have to go eventually. Almost everytime I'm at Great America its down for a bit.
But anyway were straying from the original topic.
We are getting so close to the end of the summer season and before you know it it will be Fright Fest and the park will close. I'm keeping my expectations really low to not get too disappointed. Since the area does need something to go in its place we know something will replace these rides. Please no kiddie rides or go karts. I'll be ok with anything BUT those.
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^ I agree with you, no more kiddie areas. I don't care what we get, anything but another stupid kiddie area.
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I really hope SFGAm isn't getting a stupid splash battle. It sounds SO lame and boring. Who really cares about that? You can have water fights at home. I am usually happy with whatever SFGAm gets, but a splash battle is just completely pointless in my opinion. It's definitely not going to draw in more crowds.
Hear that Six Flags? Nobody wants anything with the words Splash and Battle in the name!
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Yeah, Shapiro I hope you're reading this!
 I'm not asking for anything big, but come on, something worthwhile. The park really needs a ferris wheel. I would love a giant ferris wheel in our park. I do miss the ol' Skywhirl. Splash Battle is just ugh... If you wanna get wet then just go on one of the 3 water rides, or go to HH.
A new updated Splashwater Falls would be a dream of mine. I loved that ride so much. That and a ferris wheel would be great. Yeah, never gonna happen. I think I may be the only one that truly misses SWF.
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How about nothing tame whatsoever, anything that is thrilling will be good. A good judge of a ride is if most kids will be to scared to go on it at first then it is a quality ride.
^ agreed
Well thats not a very good reason for the park to add a new one, eh? Top 5 wood-5-Goliath 4-Ravine Flyer II 3-Phoenix 2-Voyage 1-El Toro
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I'd personally like to see Great America finally add something that isn't a clone, boring, small, or a waste of money.
O Rly? I also don't understand all this discussion and hype about adding ANOTHER B&M to Great America- much less a dive machine. I don't see the point- we already have Raging Bull, which would probably be a similar height to any dive machine we could get- not to mention dive machines (and I can only speculate, I've never been on one), look like bulky one-or-two trick ponies. Not to mention, B&Ms are EXPENSIVE and the big ones are just too smooth and boring for my tastes - they don't like to push the envelope intensity-wise. If they can hit the drawing board and design something akin to Batman, be my guest- but the truth of the matter is that a lot of their newer bigger stuff is a lot like a hilly ride in a car, much less a thrill ride. B&M loopers aren't that bad though, and God knows SFGAm has needed a mega looper ever since we lost Shockwave. In my humble opinion, Great America ought to take a queue from Cedar Point and add either an Intamin Accelerator Coaster or Terrain Coaster. I'm not talking Top Thrill Dragster or Kingda Ka style, I'm talking something more along the lines of Maverick- something fast, thrilling, intense, and utterly disorienting. I will admit I prefer the rather minimal Intamin restraints to the Hulk-style B&M harnesses. In my perfect, ideal world, I'd love to see them build an accelerator coaster which utilized the SSA building as a station. It could circumnavigate the park, with the launch parallel to the train tracks, and proceed clockwise around the park generally following the paths. Low to the ground, extremely fast, with some high points (maybe a giant helix or a 300 ft. top hat around the SUF/TDK plaza, perhaps an enormous carousel turn around Revolution and the Wiggles/Eagle plaza... a top hat with a 95 degree pull out around Crazy Buffet-lo), and some insane inversions (high speed corkscrews and barrel rolls over the midways). Something like that would cost AT LEAST 25 million dollars... and Six Flags doesn't have that kind of money to throw around on single attractions... oh wait, they do (KK). But, that's just me 
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Agreed. I think it's clear by this point in the season that we are not getting a big coaster for next season. We would have seen footers popping up and possibly track sections in storage areas. Hopefully we're at least getting some good flat. A lot of ideas have been tossed into the discussion, but one I don't think I've seen is a screaming swing. Next to a drop tower, it's my favorite flat. I will admit, they don't look that great, but they give awesome rides. 
Well, I agree we probably wont see a huge coaster next year, but they didnt start digging footers for Bull til like Sept/Oct 1998.
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Yeah, extactly. The rides does not have to be ready by opening day 2009. They can start construction whenever. Probably when it gets closer to the end of the season. It's still August.
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Couldn't the coaster open around Memorial day?
Or maybe we won't get anything to 2010, or even beyond that. Just be happy with what we have.
I just rode Griffon today.
It's definitely not top 10. But I could see something like it being added to Six Flags. It would need a bigger layout though. Like they wouldn't be able to market it with the height the others are at, especially with Raging Bull right on the other side of the park. It was a solid ride though, if they would add a loop after the immelman and maybe something else after the midcourse, it would have been better.
I've ridden shei-kra, as you can probaly tell and I loved it.
I thing it would be a great addition if we got a dive machine. If we ever did get a Dive machine i think I would be heading to the County Fair area first, verses usualy going to Yankee Harbor First.
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