Six Flags Solutions

[Galvan]

Okay, for weeks we have read posts about "What our next coaster is going to be" What will the land on the other side of I-94 will be used for blah blah blah.While those posts where the spark for a great discussion.I feel that when you sum up everything that the brillant minds on this site think aboutit narrows it down to these few imporvments.Now im not saying im a know-it-all but one thing SF needs to do is..1. Fix DejaVu, okay easier said then done, but think of it this way, So far since 2001 its been a nightmare for SF and you can ask people on this or anyother board that the ride kicks ass but is down for way way too long.(I point to my "Most Over Rated Ride" Thread)2. Most agree that SSA and the Go-Karts have to go thats a must, but what also has to go is....Whizzer. Yes Folks, im sorry but it has to go to the land of dismantalled coasters. Heres Why:First: Whizzer is getting old in age, and while yes its a great Family Ride, Spacely's Rocket in Camp Cartoon Network beats Whizzer. And as for those older "Kids" you have Got AM Eagle and Viper to wet your fancy with.Second: Whizzer just isnt thrilling anymore and before you crusify me i have a little bit of scientific data to back me up. Recently on my trip to GA i went with a rather large group of people. Of the 20 or so that went with us, 9 of them never been on Whizzer, of the 9, 5 of them where at or around 11 years old. Pefect Test Subjects for my data:of the remaining 11 or so all have ridden on the Whizzer prior to us coming to the park that day. The findings where hands down in favor of my opinion of the ride was less thrilling. Of the 20 people i asked only 3 said they liked it. of the 3 only 1 was the 11 year old age group.What also GA Needs to have done is a better system for there line queue'sWhy? Because in the Summer Heat, especially for a ride like Superman or V2 or Bull, someone is going to get heat stroke and then SF is going to loose more money then it already has lost. This isnt really a new thing, but think about that..One more quick thing that i forgot after i posted this.Give Am Eagle a fresh coat of Paint, last time i checked Almost Red,Black and closely resembling blue arent the colors of this Wooden Classic Any suggestions? Please Post Here:)

[T_Biggs]

Careful what you say about Whizzer, and 11 year olds aren't the only age group which it caters to. Just because it's old doesn't mean a thing. There are plenty of coasters older than 60, and Whizzer is no where near it.Sadly, though, I bet it will be the next coaster to leave. Shockwave only bought it a little bit of time, I'm sure.

[Aero737]

Six Flags wont take out SSA and the Go Karts. On any busy day look at SSA. At least 1 or 2 switchbacks are full (well the 3 busy days that I have visited). It is a popular ride with the GP.Go Karts probably bring in some money, or they wouldn't be running them all day.I've seen people get heat exhaustion in Vipers line before. I don't undersatand how you can create another queing system if there is only one. It would be nice to have airconditining and lazyboys in the que but it just wont happen.AE does need some paint. Look at all the chain grese on the structure under the lift hill next time your there. Perhaps they haven't painted the helix's track because AE is due for a paintjob in the near future?

[SFGA 11]

I don't see Whizzer being taken out any time soon:Every time I have visited the park this year (except 1) Whizzers line has been full, it still packs crowds. Families love this coaster, and it is agreat coaster for people who are just starting to ride coasters. It's like a "warm-up" coaster.

[SearchforRB12]

Whizzer ownz!

[Galvan]

This is exactly why i posted this thread to get a bevy of opinions from each and everyone of you. Especially on a hottly debated subject like The Future The Whizzer Which to me has a thrilling Whell Chair ramp style drop.

It would be nice to have airconditining and lazyboys in the que but it just wont happen.

You must be taking sarcasm lessions from TBiggs (Just kidding) But maybe it was my fault in not explaining what i was talking about.When im talking about Queues im talking how extremely hot it will get in lines. More needs to be done on Six Flags part reguarding this. Because im telling you this much, someone is going to get really sick or die in line and then SF is in alot of Hot Water. Those sun tarps on the queues over DV or Superman actually make it hotter then if you where actually standing in the Sun. The Reason is these tarps are made of a fire resistant plastic type coating. This espeically if its a color like yellow or blue actually makes whats under these tarps in some cases 15 to 25 degrees hotter. If you dont beleive me, Stand in line in the endless sections of Switchbacks on a hot day waiting for Superman.

[SFGAmfreak4life]

Dont say that not many people like Whizzer. When you are in line how many teens do you see in the line. There are a lot of them. I dont see it coming out anytime soon. Its too popular among the GP.As for the queues they really dont need to do much. All they need to do is put a canopie type thing over it like DV, IW, RB, and S:UF have. They could also do what CP does and put big fans around the queue and have them blow mist on people.The only place AE needs a paint job is in the retracked part of the helix. In a few years it might need a paint job. The station could go for a touch up though. Maybe they could hire the company who painted some of CPs rides. I think they did a great job and our coasters deserve a paint job like that. The only coaster that has chipping paint is Demon and thats only in the corkscrew.DV has a few of the bugs worked out of it. Yeah it does need a lot of work but I think it will al be resolved shortly. I think the ride is lots of fun and like many others I wish it was open more.I think that TWC and SSA do need to be taken out. TWC isnt a good track and SSA just sucks. They are taking up a good amount of needed space. If they took out SSA then they could put a 3D motion simulater like The Amazing Aventures of Spider-Man. That will most likely not happen but hey I can dream.

[Galvan]

Great Points: SFGAmfreak4life I like the discussion we are having here, but unfortunately i have to disagree with you reguarding the Whizzer. Because i persoanlly dont see a coast fanatic like you or I actually ridding Whizzer, Think about this for a second, Youve just gotten off DejaVu or Batman or whatever, your pumped up the last thing id want to do is lose that "high" if you will by ridding Whizzer. Believe me when i say that. Because this year i Rode Superman front row, that ride was incredible but afterwards still on my "high" i was forced to go on Whizzer... talk about a buzzkiller.

[SFGAmfreak4life]

I dont think its a buzz killer. Either you go on it for your first ride, go at night, go on it at some other time during the day, or dont ride it at all.

[Galvan]

Geez, i can see im not making alot of friends with this post. Oh well.. Anyone agree with me??

[greatamerica2003]

Not me.Fixing Deja Vu is a little bit more complicated than you think. When the ride has a design flaw in the structure, sometimes its a bit hard to correct the problem.Why would you tear down the SSA show building? Whats wrong with it? Yeah, the ride sucks, BUT, there is nothing inherintly wrong with the building, is there? Think of it this way. When they close a ride at, lets say, the Magic Kingdom at Walt Disney World, do they tear the building down too? No. They can re-use the building for a new attraction. While I think that the park screwed themselves by building a million dollar shuttle replica, there is no reason to tear the building out. And Go Karts MAKES money. Thats a no brainer.So just because a ride is less thrilling means it should be removed? Ok lets apply this to other rides. Sprokets is not thrilling, the Scenic Railway is not thrilling, Sky Trek Tower is not thrilling, Rue Le Dodge is not thrilling. You have to remember that not all of the General Public wants thrilling rides. You have to cater to EVERYONE. Why are theme parks so successful? Because the cater to ALL! Not just some. Your'e being a bit selfish with that statement.Yeah, it gets hot waiting in line. What can you do about it? Not much. I think that adding some fans may do the trick, and they can have those misters on them. That would be nice. And ice water is FREE. But I didn't see you offer any suggestions. The park has been open for 27 years. Nobody has died from heat stroke yet. And we park employees are pretty good at calling First Aid when someone looks sick. Iv'e personally given guests water from OUR coolers and I've lost about 3 water bottles doing that. Doesn't bother me none.Do you have any idea how much is costs to paint a ride like AE? Last time it got done Sherwin Williams did it for free and recieved press coverage and free advertising in the park. Thats the ONLY reason it got painted. And the fact is that the ride DOES NOT have to be painted. The paint really does not offer any protection from the elelments. Thats not much incentive for the park to paint it. That and the GP doesn't care. Also, look at Viper. It doesn't have paint.

[SFGAmfreak4life]

I know they have to cater to everyone. They kind of do go by if the ride thrills the GP or not. Thats why they have count the number of people who go on the rides. If there isnt enough people that go on a ride in a certain time period then they decide to take it out. Its pretty much a waste to keep it operating if it doesnt attract enough people.

[Soxman]

Well I was going to post and give my response to this thread, but I read greatamerica2003's response and I have nothing to say now. Well said greatamerica2003

[SearchforRB12]

The only problem with SFGAm is the lack of shade.

[planea380]

Only in one month is it usally hot and usally people dont go thooses days.

[T_Biggs]

greatamerica2003, the one thing you forgot about Eagle's paint is repainting it would make it look nice. And if Viper were to be painted, it would be probably the single most ugly paint job on any coaster ever (probably because we're used to be it being a natural color.) But really, from the highway, Eagle looks fine, and thats what matters most, make people not in the park want to get in the park.And Galvan, how can Whizzer not be thrilling anymore? It wasn't ever thrilling anyways. It's a family ride, not a thrill ride. Six Flags' website doesn't even list it in the thrill rides, it just has a little blurb like all of the flats. Even so, though, I still think it's years are numbered.

[coasterzak]

Don't hurt Wizzer! It's a classic!

[SfGaMownz]

I'd like to seee Whizzer replaced by something . Deja will never be fixed....

[Chitown]

I never understood this mentality that if you dont like a certain ride, that it should be removed.The Whizzer generates lines constantly. Why do you think they have Fastlane set up for it? Because the lines are short? I dont think so.And Galvin, dont use an example by bringing up a poll of 11 year olds. That age group is old enough to tackle the bigger coasters. Next time, poll a bunch of 4-7 year olds and I guarantee you will get a different result.

[SFGAmfreak4life]

If you want more "scientific" data then next time ask more than 20 kids what they thought of it.

[coasterzak]

The Whizzer is that one type of ride every park needs. It's not too intense, it appeals to older people and younger people, while at the same time the coaster enthusiasts get their fill too. I see it along the same lines as a mine train how so many different age groups can ride it!

[InsaneNewman]

To begin with, I personally love Whizzer, and think its a great ride for someone like me, who was, until a few years ago, afraid of coasters. Plus, it's the only coaster a non-dropper, non-twister like my mom will go on!

Six Flags wont take out SSA and the Go Karts. On any busy day look at SSA. At least 1 or 2 switchbacks are full (well the 3 busy days that I have visited). It is a popular ride with the GP.Go Karts probably bring in some money, or they wouldn't be running them all day.

1 or 2 switchbacks full on the most crowded days is popular??? Hardly... the ride is terrible. This is not a case of me saying I don't like it, so it should be torn down. I am saying it is too rough and outdated, and because it draws the most minimal crowds of any of the "key" rides of the park (and yes, it is supposed to be a key ride; I remember all the hubub when it opened), It needs to be gutted, and a new simulator or dark ride built in it's place. That is what SF needs is a real dark ride!Oh, and Go Karts money could not possible compete with the spike in attendance that would be brought on by the addition of a new coaster. If SF wants to add a coaster, Go-Karts will go.And anyway, why couldn't the karts be wound around the footings for the track, much like the Viper line winds past Raging Bull. Anything is possible!

[cexd]

Dont say that not many people like Whizzer. When you are in line how many teens do you see in the line. There are a lot of them.

because they can make out in the car edit: and i think if they plan a really nice thrill ride to replace the carts and SSA and tear it down and put up a sign saying Future site of so and so, the GP won't be upset. people go to Six Flags to ride rides/watch people ride rides, not to pay 10 dollars to ride go-karts or watch a boring outdated space movie.

[greatamerica2003]

Ok so then why does SSA have riders? And why do people line up to pay $$ for things like the Go Karts, Dare Devil Dive and others? Don't say that they don't, because they do.Think before you type next time cexd. What you said didn't make sense. How much money does a sign that says "Future Development" make as opposed to "Go Karts, $5"Alright then.

[RagingBullDude13]

greatamerica, you make much sense, but cexd is right, wouldn't surprising people with news of the new thrill ride coming excite them and want them to come next year... i think in the long run, more people and profit comes.