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Postby CoasterTycoon77 on July 2nd, 2007, 11:45 am
I have a question and if anyone can answer that would be cool...

I'm going down to Great America on Friday with her 3 kids. I have physical issues with walking long distances, so I bring my scooter, so obviously, I'll be getting the Exit pass.

I know the policy is 1 person waits with me while the others go through the line, but their mother is NOT the type to wait 2 hours in line to get on a ride, and these kids are pretty young...12, 7, and 8 I believe. So I doubt she's gonna want the kids to wait in line themselves...

Which brings the question .... Flash Pass... is it possible we could get a flash pass and use that with the Exit pass? I mean, unless they'll make an exception because the kids are younger and pretty hyper active, so their mom doesn't like to leave them alone really.

I'm just trying to figure out the best way to get on all the good rides... LOL...

I'm thinking it would only work if they used the Flash pass and I just went up to the exit at scheduled time...since the Flash passes still go thru entrances and there are stairs, right?

Can anyone help me out on this or am I better off explaining the situation to Guest Relations when we get there? I don't wanna buy the Flash for them if the idea won't work....it'd be great if GA will let us all use the exit under the circumstances...

IDK, just throwing some thoughts out...
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Postby Viper 06 on July 2nd, 2007, 11:56 am
Your best bet would be to talk to GR when you get there. There are Passes that allow up to four people to ride, as well as the normal 2 person ones. Don't bother combining it with the flash pass because you're most likely to get confused looks from both the ride operators and the flash pass workers. Who will probably tell you your best bet is to go back to GR to straiten things out. Like I said your best bet is to head to GR and they'll figure something out with you.
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Postby shockwave guy mark on July 2nd, 2007, 3:35 pm
Viper 06 wrote:Your best bet would be to talk to GR when you get there. There are Passes that allow up to four people to ride, as well as the normal 2 person ones. Don't bother combining it with the flash pass because you're most likely to get confused looks from both the ride operators and the flash pass workers. Who will probably tell you your best bet is to go back to GR to straiten things out. Like I said your best bet is to head to GR and they'll figure something out with you.


well said, that was exactly what i was going to say.
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Postby CoasterTycoon77 on July 2nd, 2007, 6:29 pm
Thanks guys! That's what I was thinking would probably be best...GR might just let us slide through under the circumstances with the kids and stuff since they're so young...just in case....
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Postby BP317 on July 3rd, 2007, 7:00 am
They will most likely give you the disability pass with three additional guests, you still have to get the reservation of the normal wait time, but it allows you to enter through the exit so you dont have to deal with the stairs.
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Postby T.K. on July 3rd, 2007, 8:43 am
Alright then, Six Flags Has 3 kinds of passes, red, green and blue. Blue is 30 minutes wait with ONE aditional guest. Green is 30 minutes wait with THREE additional guests. Adn they have RED pass that allows you extra THREE people with NO WAIT, but to get that one u really have to have issues ;-) , you might try.
If u get the green or blue, remember u can have only one ride reserved at one time, the ride ops check if u r waiting for something already. The time on ur reservation varies on lenght of the line, you can wait 5 minutes or more, the maxx time u will wait will be 30 minutes. BUT if u request a front row then u will have to wait either 15 or 30 minutes, even if u have red pass, that goes to all passes. U can request other rows with no extra minutes. If the ride has straight line to the station the wait for front will be 15 minutes extra, if there is ONE or more switchback open then it changes to 30 minutes. That means u can even wait one hour.
I guess I covered most of the things. AHA Remember that u will have to ride as well, u can not give this benefit to anyone.
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Postby CoasterTycoon77 on July 3rd, 2007, 4:30 pm
Of course I'm riding ^^

Huh?? For a blue or green pass I can't have a reservation on it for any other coasters rides?? Meaning...if I am going to ride Raging Bull, I can't have another reservation on it for BTR, etc?? So, say I get to the park at 10, and I go to Vu and get a 10:30 ride time....so we leave Vu and run to RB and get the pass signed...they give me an 11:00 ride time...

I can't go back and ride the Vu at 10:30, because I already am signed up to ride Bull at 11:00? I'm not getting that right, am I??
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Postby CoasterTycoon77 on July 3rd, 2007, 5:59 pm
Sorry for double post....

I think the Red pass is gonna be the best thing because it's gonna be me, my friend, and 3 kids. I'll ride everything...I think her youngest is an inch or 2 short to ride a lot of the coasters, so it may not be all of us on every ride. Probably me and the older kids, depending.

We'll see what GR says on Friday when we get there....

Thanks for the info!! :D
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Postby batcave on July 3rd, 2007, 7:05 pm
Now, as employees you shouldn't be posting information on policies such as the secret red pass. Shame on you.
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Postby CoasterTycoon77 on July 3rd, 2007, 9:25 pm
Secret? It was no secret that Six Flags has disability passes...lol They don't mention anything about having ANY passes for people with disabilities on their website. It just says to see GR for ways to make your visit more enjoyable or something to that effect....

I wouldn't know about disability passes period if I had not used one since the first time I went to Six Flags. It's just the 1st time I've gone since 2005.

I think the policy changes for guests with disabilities are new as of this year....and it's my 1st year going with more than 2-3 people, so...

It's nice to actually be able to go to the park and talk to GR knowing what to expect instead of being totally shocked that changes have been made. I'd rather know now what to expect than get there and have them give me a hassle trying to figure this out....
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Postby BP317 on July 5th, 2007, 2:28 pm
This is the way the pass works:

Any guest claiming a disability that requires queue line accomodation will be directed to Guest Relations to recieve a Guest With Disabilities Guide and instructions for the ADA ride access program. Guests will also be given a Ride Accessibility Pass that must be presented to the ride operator at the ride exit or alternate boarding location. Guidance for the program is as follows:

1. Guests with disabilites should be directed to the ride exit or boarding location. In this situation the disabled guest and ONE (1) companion must present the Ride Accessibility Pass to the ride operator.

2. The Ride Operator will assign a ride time based on the average wait time for the particular ride. The average wait time will be issued by the ride lead. It could be zero minutes for our minor rides and the actual wait for our major rides. The ride operator will issue document the boarding time on the Ride Accessibility Pass and board the guests when the appropriate time has passed.

3. If the disabled party is more than two (the guest with disabilities and a companion) the rest of the party will be required to go through the ride queue line. Once they have transited the line the entire group will be allowed to ride. Only ONE (1) companion will be allowed to wait with the disabled guest at the designated waiting area while the rest of the party goes through the ride queue line.

4. Guests may not ride any other ride while they have a current reservation. Guests presenting the Ride Accessibility Pas while they have a current reservation may cancel the current reservation to board an alternate ride but will be required to re-reserve any cancelled rides.

EXCEPTIONS:
For guests with disabilites with small children, guest relations may make an exception for those families and allow three additional guests to use the pass along with the guest with disability to prevent splitting up families with small children. This is ONLY for families with small children, the normal reservation process must occur.

Guests with autism or severe behavior disorders have a different procedure with this pass.
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Postby CoasterTycoon77 on July 5th, 2007, 3:07 pm
Hmmm...Makes for a slow day...can't even reserve the next ride without reserving and riding the 1st ride...sounds like lot of standing around between getting reservation and riding rides.

If I have to wait the normal wait (1 to 2 hours for Vu, etc...), and can't reserve anything between that time...how fun is that?

Sounds like it depends on the crowds...

I just don't get the harm in having more reservations especially if say...I get to the park at 10, reserve V2 for 10:30, then run to Vu and get an 11:45. If my reservation for V2 is 10:30, then OBVIOUSLY it would have no bearing on me riding Vu at 11:45, right? Because...DUH...I'd be OFF of V2 by 11:45, I would think...

I forget which rides require reservations....I'm just thinking if I go on the non=reservation rides, that might cut into time to ride on the reserved.

So I prefer to get a reserve time and THEN go to the next ride...unless they're gonna tell me "I can get you on in 5 minutes". Doubt it, right?

I like the whole Red pass better though, but TK must've been way off on that....
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Postby BP317 on July 5th, 2007, 3:12 pm
They changed the system this year purposely to make it so guests with the pass have to wait the same amount of time as everyone in line and make it not possible to "stack rides" or go on more rides than a normal guest because your a guest with a disability.

I forget which rides require reservations....I'm just thinking if I go on the non=reservation rides, that might cut into time to ride on the reserved.

All the coasters (besides Spacely's depending on crowds), water rides, and the major flat rides require boarding times.

So I prefer to get a reserve time and THEN go to the next ride...unless they're gonna tell me "I can get you on in 5 minutes". Doubt it, right?

You need to make a reservation, wait, ride the ride....then you can get a reservation for another ride.
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Postby CoasterTycoon77 on July 5th, 2007, 3:45 pm
Ahhh....so I can still reserve a ride on say...RB, and if it's a longer wait, I can still hop on Condor, Rev, or any of the other rides that don't require reservation? It's not that I can't go on ANY ride before I get on RB then, right? I'm thinking that's probably how it works...I wanna catch a show or 2 anyway...

What are the odds I can get a Photo Op with Marvin the Martian?? :D

I can understand why they do it then...I was just thinking you meant I can't ride ANYTHING until I get reservation & ride a certain ride...

Oh yeah....me, my friend and her 3 kids shouldn't be a problem?? I know you said there are passes where up to 3 guests can ride with me, right? I think her kids are 12, 8 and 7.
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Postby BP317 on July 5th, 2007, 4:40 pm
You CANNOT ride a flat ride when you are reserved for another ride. For example, your are reserved for SUF but you want to ride Condor while your waiting. That is NOT allowed, you have to wait until after your reservation for SUF is up because you are "in line" for it. After your reservation for SUF is up, then you can ride Condor through the exit with no wait.

What are the odds I can get a Photo Op with Marvin the Martian??

Marvin and his sidekick dog stand outside the Pictorium.

Oh yeah....me, my friend and her 3 kids shouldn't be a problem?? I know you said there are passes where up to 3 guests can ride with me, right? I think her kids are 12, 8 and 7.

Guest relations will most likely issue you a "green pass" which means that you can ride with 3 additional guests but still have to do the reservation process etc. Its also a good idea when you stop in GR to get the kids heights measured and get them wristbands (54, 48, 42, 36) so they arent getting checked all day.
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Postby CoasterTycoon77 on July 5th, 2007, 5:45 pm
Good idea on the kids getting measured...

Is TK right though....max wait time would be 30 min?

Green pass will probably be it I'm thinking...sounds like the Blue would be for autistic, etc??

I just can't picture, as hyper as the boys are, them standing around for 30 min while we are "in line"....

Might be a good time to check out nearby shops or something though...depending on how it goes. I just can't see having to stand around for 30 minutes, not being able to ride anything....

So, if I am right, I/we can't even go on anything NOT requiring a reservation while waiting for coasters?
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Postby T.K. on July 5th, 2007, 6:56 pm
Ok let me fix this a little....
The maxx time u wait is 30, line might be 2,5 hour, but u still wait 30 minutes. BUT if u want the front row then it varies with extra 15-30 minutes.
You may not reserve for another ride, while u r waiting for one.
Examples and Solutions/Answer:
1/ It's 10:00 and you go for a major ride, Let's say DejaVu then they may put you on it right away. WHY? Cause at 10:00- 10:15 there is about 5 minut wait, they will amke your day. It depends ona Ride Op. u might be lucky.

2/ It's 11:00 (or above). U go to DejaVu and get 11:30, It's 11:10 and u go to Bull to get time. Guess what? They will say "I'm sorry but u can not reserve this ride, while u r waiting for one, but after u ride DejaVu, u can come back here and get a time, if u r not waiting for other already"

3/ It's 11:00 (or above). You got your time for DejaVu for 11:30. You go over the Raging Bull and see that the line is about 10 minutes. Then Yes you can ride it, If you enter from the entrance only. And you wait in line like other people. Some people do it so. I think you shouldn't because you already have a benefit, but I see people doing it, so ;-)
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Postby CoasterTycoon77 on July 5th, 2007, 8:03 pm
That would be cool....but I think with a scooter next to impossible to get on a coaster thru the entrance, but may be a "flat" option... LOL....

If the entrances didn't have stairs, I wouldn't care. Believe me I'd wait in line (especially for re-rides if slow). Sometimes I wish the entrances WERE accessible, but would cost millions, so I'm sure that would be impossible. I wouldn't expect it.

If lines are shorter, I can actually handle standing that long, but generally standing for long periods or walking a lot, really causes problems for me.

Last time I went WITHOUT the scooter, my 2 guy friends had to actually CARRY me around the park...and THAT didn't work too well....lol. None of us wanted to spend $10 (wheelchair) or $35 (scooter) at the time to get wheels...it was quite the funny sight, but not worth it....lol

So, in theory if a ride is walk on....like East River Crawler, and no stairs...I can probably park my wheels somewhere near the entrance, stash the key so no one walks off with the scooter and get in the line...

Mainly, long periods of standing/ walking do me in, especially with balance, but if it's a short line, I actually get bummed because I just wanna hop on the ride and get to another ride and I can't because of the wheels...

Would you guys trust it enough to leave the scooter at the entrance for flat rides?? That way, technically, I'm not abusing anything because I'm not going in the exit....and, I don't think there are attendants at the entrance that I know of....

I can probably park it at the control ctr for the flat rides and make sure I take the key out, but...
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Postby themanoftheland8 on July 6th, 2007, 1:11 am
Here's the way I see it. When you say...

CoasterTycoon77 wrote:I can understand why they do it then...I was just thinking you meant I can't ride ANYTHING until I get reservation & ride a certain ride...


it sounds to me like you think you should be able to wait for more than one ride at a time. To me, this sounds very greedy. Six Flags is just trying to make it fair for everyone. People without disabilities are only able to wait for one ride at a time (while they are in line), so why would people with disabilities be able to wait for multiple rides at one time?
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Postby CoasterTycoon77 on July 7th, 2007, 12:12 am
You're right...that did sound greedy....I didn't mean for it to. I was just thinking about Fast Lane though...can't any other rider (assuming they don't have a disability pass because of the fact that disability pass usually means you can't use stairs or something like that, and the Speed Pass, you just go in partially thru the boarding line (I think))...

The way I understand it and maybe I'm wrong, is with a Flash Pass, you make reservations for the coasters, but I think, can't you reserve time on more than one coaster with those? When someone has a disability, I don't think even getting a Flash is possible (because of stairs).

So I'm just thinking if it IS true that Flash Pass buyers CAN reserve multiple rides at a time, then shouldn't that same priviledge be given with the disability pass since the 2 most likely can't be used together?

Anyway, it all worked out....turns out the Disability Pass wasn't much different than I remember from 2005, the last time I went...

I was just more irritated the other night because I was worried that I wasn't going to be able to go on Vu or V2, which I think are the most popular rides right now...my friend I went with is kinda impatient and doesn't like to wait 2 1/2 hrs in a line...which doesn't typically bother me much, but....I was picturing her wanting to leave early bcz of all the lines and stuff....

But like I said it all worked out....sorry that I sounded greedy.

Now, I think I'm gonna get to bed....I pretty much just got home from Great America and my HEAD IS KILLING ME....but I LOVE Deja Vu now....it was SO worth it!! And the whole time I'm thinking 'Please don't let them (V2 & Vu) go down today..." I thought I was going to DIE on that ride, but....I LOVE IT!! =)

Thanks for the input on the question....especially TK. Everything was right on. =)

But, I also wonder about the Flash pass...not trying to have an attitude, but you know?? I'd have paid for the Flash if I knew I could still avoid the stairs on the rides....Vu alone would've been worth it....MAN I LOVE THAT RIDE!! :)
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Postby T.K. on July 7th, 2007, 8:17 am
I'm really excited to hear u had an awesome day! ;-)
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Postby Danhockey04 on July 7th, 2007, 10:23 pm
You can only reserve one ride at a time with the flash pass. As soon as you get past the people to ride the ride, you can reserve another time.
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Postby CoasterTycoon77 on July 7th, 2007, 11:06 pm
Ahhh OK. Thanks Dan. Sounds pretty much like the Disability pass minus the electronics...I was thinking it was a little different...
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