Best Rides Crew

[Danhockey04]

It's definitely a tough call between AE crew and Mardi Gras. They both have great capacity and both strive for family friendly. Though that GD crew is currently AMAZING, they keep it to no lines.

[batcave]

I hate to burst your bubble, but thanks to the block system batman has to stack all the time otherwise the ride will shut itself down. In my opinion they are one of the best crews around if they have both trains, which has not been a constant all year.

No it doesn't. I have been on the ride without the trains stacking. I know how the rides operate.

[guitarhero119]

I hate to burst your bubble, but thanks to the block system batman has to stack all the time otherwise the ride will shut itself down. In my opinion they are one of the best crews around if they have both trains, which has not been a constant all year.

No it doesn't. I have been on the ride without the trains stacking. I know how the rides operate.

The ONLY way you could do it without stacking is to have one train on the ride course and have the other on the lift. Being that nobody could fully load a train SAFELY in the 1:25 Batman takes from the top of the lift, It is extremely unlikely you could do it without stacking. Asking for it though is asking for the impossible.

[batcave]

Have you ever operated a ride? The batcrew in 05 went hours without stacking. If I remember correctly the interval for B:tR is the Service Brakes, If you send the train as the previous enters the service you will not stack, nor set up.

[guitarhero119]

Have you ever operated a ride? The batcrew in 05 went hours without stacking.

Yeah camp cartoon network crew of the year last year! Way to call me out on it.

[batcave]

So if you are correct, that would mean Viper(Identical in Block System) would have to stack also, but it doesn't.

[RagingBullFan]

The ONLY way you could do it without stacking is to have one train on the ride course and have the other on the lift. Being that nobody could fully load a train SAFELY in the 1:25 Batman takes from the top of the lift, It is extremely unlikely you could do it without stacking. Asking for it though is asking for the impossible.

Gemini can do this in 30 seconds with Standard style seatbelts, if your working hard Batman won't take much longer.

[guitarhero119]

So if you are correct, that would mean Viper(Identical in Block System) would have to stack also, but it doesn't.

Its not the block system in this instance that makes the differance its the ride length. Viper can do it because The train will not be over the lift fo a good amount of time. At Viper you have the amount of time it takes to check seatbelts on the second train, and for the second train to get to the top of the lift before you can bring in the next one. At batman you could try and do it but its highly improbable

I am not by any means trying to say that it cant be done, I am just trying to say that to do this people cant be idiots. You would have to have ideal conditions for it to happen honestly. You would need people to go right to their seats, follow all the rules, have five on platform (which hasnt happened to my knowlege this year yet), and have no issues with restraints not fitting.

I dont think that we have gone far enough into the season to say that batmans crew needs work. Considering the circumstances (not enough on platform, and running at lower capacity) I would say they have done an acceptable job. Their work is by no means spectacular, but demanding that they dont stack is a joke because they dont have the conditions to do it in.

[Nystagmus]

When I was a lead at Viper we rarely stacked the trains. It was terribly easy to load the train, check the restraints, etc. before the computer would even allow us to dispatch a train. Often times we were ready to go, waiting for the computer to enable our dispatch buttons. We were more concerned about the ride going into set-up than stacking.

The times we did stack was due to height checks, guest misbehavior, etc.

[zjohn1988]

Now, Viper stacks because of guests not understanding seatbelts. The interval is when the train ahead passes the final drop next to the lift shed.

[rct2wizard360]

Yeah, seatbelts effect load times a lot more than most people think.

Take a look at the load times of Corckscrew at CP, compared to Demon.

[batcave]

I dont think that we have gone far enough into the season to say that batmans crew needs work. Considering the circumstances (not enough on platform, and running at lower capacity) I would say they have done an acceptable job. Their work is by no means spectacular, but demanding that they dont stack is a joke because they dont have the conditions to do it in.

It is not about being acceptable, it is about being the best. I feel it easier to run with less people on platform. Kraken being the bst example I have ever seen, they run 8 on platform(6 on the train, housekeeper, and operator) and still stack with two train op. It is all about the crew, not the guests. The crew should be prescanning guests to find potential problems, and have those problems solved prior to the restraints being locked. Plan and simple the crew needs work.

[Danhockey04]

The BTR crew this year is by far not as good as the 2005 crew, they were great in 2005. This year, their loading time is nearly 2:20 every train. Rarely do I see a good 1:05, which is plausible for that ride, easily.

[Viper 06]

Its not the block system in this instance that makes the differance its the ride length. Viper can do it because The train will not be over the lift fo a good amount of time. At Viper you have the amount of time it takes to check seatbelts on the second train, and for the second train to get to the top of the lift before you can bring in the next one. At batman you could try and do it but its highly improbable.

I'm not sure I understood that sentance but at viper you can send it at interval, which as was said is when the train passes the motor house, and it won't stack.

[guitarhero119]

Allright so when i went on saturday, batman had 4 on platform and was not stacking. Viper on the other hand had 2 on platform and was stacking, so i think the real issue here is not how good the crew is pr what the ride permit as I have previously argued, but how well staffed the ride is. I would have to say that the two most energetic and fun crews had to have been The eagle crew and the whizzer crew. Those crews really did a nice job.

[batcave]

Staffing does not matter. Let me put it this way. Raging Bull crew is more efficent with 4 on platform (operator, 2 checking, and housekeeper) and 3 trains than the Kraken Crew with 8 on platform with 2 trains. (operator, 6 checking, and housekeeper). It is what you do with the people that count, not the amount of people.

[cowboy1192]

I live Vertical Velocity's and Batman.

I like how they can get sarcastic with the launch.

Most B&M's go through pretty fast condidering that they usually run 3 trains depending on the size of the coaster.

[guitarhero119]

Staffing does not matter. Let me put it this way. Raging Bull crew is more efficent with 4 on platform (operator, 2 checking, and housekeeper) and 3 trains than the Kraken Crew with 8 on platform with 2 trains. (operator, 6 checking, and housekeeper). It is what you do with the people that count, not the amount of people.

There is no chance that three good team members will outdo five average team members on a platform any day. Its simple if you cut the restraints that ytou have to check in half then it will go faster.

[FParker185]

EuroSat at Europa Park will pull into the station, unload, load, check restraints and dispatch in 15 seconds, if they take more than 20-25 seconds they will have 6 stranded trains set up throughout the ride. Anything is possible with good crews.

And they get my award for best crew, it would have gone to Eurostar on the German fair circut but I dont care for being grabbed and thrown into a seat if I'm not poised and ready to sprint to a seat when the train stops, but they do a 7 row 4 across invert train in around 20 seconds, weather they have a line or not and weather they are running all 4 trains or not, it's quite the sight to see, ditto for Olympia Looping but they seem to be more polite but if you dont pull your OTSR down within about 5 seconds of getting into the seat, they will make absolutely sure you leave the ride 4 inches shorter than when you got on and that you remember the next time to pull it down

As far as SFGAm is concerned, every time I go this year I see lackluster operations across the board. And that's compared to how the park has been in the past, not comparing them to these posessed super ride ops from overseas

[zjohn1988]

Staffing does not matter. Let me put it this way. Raging Bull crew is more efficent with 4 on platform (operator, 2 checking, and housekeeper) and 3 trains than the Kraken Crew with 8 on platform with 2 trains. (operator, 6 checking, and housekeeper). It is what you do with the people that count, not the amount of people.

There is no chance that three good team members will outdo five average team members on a platform any day. Its simple if you cut the restraints that ytou have to check in half then it will go faster.

For some reason, bathero is right...I never figured that out, but 4 on platform always went quicker than 5....there was always a problem with guests and with 5, the ops thought they could go slower. It is more work for the enable employee but they constantly move and front unload has to wait and doesnt get as distracted.

[guitarhero119]

well i respect all of your opinions, but i dont think you can convice me that staffing has NOTHING to do with it. I would agree that there is room for improvement at batman, but I also want to point out how nice a job that the demon orbit crew does. I havent seen a bad line for those rides yet this year. They move people through at a pretty good rate. But hands down eagle is the best crew this year.

[BullInDaBack4Life]

This is kind of a "staffing issue", but actually it's more of a pointing out of an annoying staff member on a ride. Last year, when I was in line for Batman, every time a new train came into the station, the female op would sing "I don't wanna do this anymore. I don't wanna be the reason why." She was so loud and she also sucked. Hey, I like Rihanna and you can make fun of me for that all you want, but boy did she butcher it and besides, I don't really feel like hearing that line over and over when a new train comes in. I eventually said "I don't wanna hear this anymore." in tune to the song. Everyone in line was yelling at her to shut up. Rightfully so.

[batcave]

Now guitar hero, I do not mean to be picking on you, but I worked 2 and 1/2 years at the park and have some good knowledge on operations. I am also a major in hospitality mangement, and going to theme parks is considered studying.

[demon boy]

Back on subject........

I think Demon has one of the best crews. I went on monday and there were 3 people on crew running all 3 trains! They were able to unload, load, and dispatch in under 20 sec. The next train was barley on the last block and train 3 was just out of the tunnel. It was amazing.

[batcave]

It is because they learned from the best.