BMRider wrote:I find it funny that the ex employees come on this website to complain about everything.
First- Not many adults apply for the rides department. Second- International workers do work at the park. It isn't our fault the US government limits the time they can come over here on a work visa
It Is really hard to respect employees who try to please guest by causing downtimes John. You must have really liked the job after they fired you the first year to ask for it back again. And TK, how do you know what six flags does and doesn't want to do?
The people I worked with loved it and came back another year. It really seems like the ones who hate the management are the ones who get in trouble.
Cedar Point employees are the same way. They are there to get their bonus then they are gone. Alot of them aren't happy being forced to work 60 hour work weeks with no overtime.
Every place is short staffed one in a while. Every employer has their peak season for employees. Take Jewel. There are days when you will wait in long line to purchase something. They don't have enough employees. Same for Six Flags, when the employees are still in school they do the best they can. If you don't like it go work at the park, but some of you can't seeing that you caused yourself to get fired. Until you can sit down and talk with management and see what was done to prevent this and what they are doing to open more rides don't rant.
Yeah since everyone lives near the park and needs a job. I wouldn't work at the park anyways considering the pay is crap and you probably do get treated like garbage.
I didn't cause downtimes. You're one of the people BMrider who believe everything you hear.. you're so sucked into that place that you're probably afraid to admit the truth. I was the same way..its different after leaving..you realize more problems than you did. And its not all people who don't work there anymore that agree with me.
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Anyone else see Shapiro in the park today? I saw him buying his kids lemonade in Mardi Gras (yes, paid full price with his credit card and everything ).
Also Sky Trek Tower was open today. DejaVu had the staff and had people hosting the entrance, but maintenence looked like they were having problems getting the ride to run right and it didnt open.
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I can understand the park having staffing issues early in the year because employee's are working, but that being the case SFGAM should charge a lower admission price early in the year when staffing is reduced and many shows/rides wont operate because of staffing issues.
As for the employee's, I have found the workers do a good job and IMHO work hard and i have no problem with the job they do. Some may work harder/faster than others, but that is no different than any other job.
When it gets to rides being down like Sky Tower/DeJuVu, that is a managment issue where they dont put in the proper time/money to get these rides operational in a timely manner. When you have a major off-season there is no reason you shouldnt be able to fix the rides and get the parts you need to the rides function properly,
Bob O wrote:When it gets to rides being down like Sky Tower/DeJuVu, that is a managment issue where they dont put in the proper time/money to get these rides operational in a timely manner. When you have a major off-season there is no reason you shouldnt be able to fix the rides and get the parts you need to the rides function properly,
It's been said on this site MANY times... the complete opposite of what you just said. They put in a LOT of effort to get Vu running, it was supposed to open with the park, but just a couple days before opening something went completely wrong with the ride and they needed to fix it. It doesn't get fixed overnight. In fact, I remember one summer, maybe last summer, at one point the only Deja Vu that was running out of the 3 was ours. I have completely accepted the fact that Deja Vu has its problems, it will never be perfect (nothing is perfect anyway), and that it won't always be open, and I'm okay with that. People like you refuse to accept that. And about STT, like said before, the parts that were needed for it were no longer made! Things like this just happen. But some people will just never understand that.
When the rides can't operate for a minimum of four of those months therin likes the problem. People keep saying they should get it done in the off-season but if they could they would. Six Flags is not completely stupid, and I gurentee the people making the decisions know a lot more then their business and/or area of special concern then any of you do.
Right now six flags is doing the best they can with what they have. And I give them loads and loads of points for that.
And if you dont' accept that, for whatever reason. Consider this...Shapiro was visiting the park with his family on a day when Bull was running Two Trains, Drop at Half Tower, No Grouper at viper, no grouper anywhere else, supervisors running rides, etc...maybe he'll see some of the problems and try to increase the budgets their working with.
And a special comment to whoever said "they should hire adults"...do you think they just automatically turn away anyone over age 25? NO!!! What are you on?! Who in the age group you have narrowed down to "adults" would apply for a job at six flags? You really get three main groups of people working there. Students, Internationals, and Retirees. So once again...Six Flags is doing the best they can with what they have to work with.
Viper 06 wrote:When the rides can't operate for a minimum of four of those months therin likes the problem. People keep saying they should get it done in the off-season but if they could they would. Six Flags is not completely stupid, and I gurentee the people making the decisions know a lot more then their business and/or area of special concern then any of you do.
Right now six flags is doing the best they can with what they have. And I give them loads and loads of points for that.
And if you dont' accept that, for whatever reason. Consider this...Shapiro was visiting the park with his family on a day when Bull was running Two Trains, Drop at Half Tower, No Grouper at viper, no grouper anywhere else, supervisors running rides, etc...maybe he'll see some of the problems and try to increase the budgets their working with.
And a special comment to whoever said "they should hire adults"...do you think they just automatically turn away anyone over age 25? NO!!! What are you on?! Who in the age group you have narrowed down to "adults" would apply for a job at six flags? You really get three main groups of people working there. Students, Internationals, and Retirees. So once again...Six Flags is doing the best they can with what they have to work with.
I find that hard to believe. Six Flags cares about one thing, money. The problem is most GP don't know the difference between bull having 2 or 3 trains, they just accept whatever. Six Flags makes the money either way. Attendance needs to have a significant drop to show them that they need to fix their problems.
I went on May 31. I experienced the same thing that EagleFan344 did. Another thing I noticed was that American Eagle's first drop seemed more intense than normal. I asked a couple of other people and they agreed with me. It was odd.
I guess if one believes all the BS about Sky Trek Tower/DeJuVu we should also believe in Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny.
So in the offseason a company cant find a manufacterer to build new parts for a ride, but if somethingc caused there cash registers not to work they would find a fix for that right away with no costs too high.
So DeJauVue was going to be open on opening day, but surprise something happens and they still cant get it too work this far in the season, even when other rides of the same type are woking in other parks in the chain??
This all get downs to management and what the priroties are. But of course the SF apologists will buy whatever BS that SF throws there way without questioning it!!!!
Hey im going to go do a surgery now but i've never been to medical school .
So DeJauVue was going to be open on opening day, but surprise something happens and they still cant get it too work this far in the season, even when other rides of the same type are woking in other parks in the chain??
You dont know what hapenned to DejaVu, you dont know what problems they are having with DejaVu, you are in no position to comment on why DejaVu was closed.
DejaVu is not down for staffing, its been staffed every day for awhile now. It's been running a lot recently but still being tweaked by maintenence & Vekoma and its opening could be today, could be tomorrow, could be anytime.
Sky Trek Tower was being worked on all offseason (if you hapenned to be in the park during the offseason Bob O you'd see that there were trucks outside of it with people out there every day)....It's unfortunate, but its something they gotta deal with. Sky Trek tower is open, it was still having some problerms and going down quite a bit, but it is open. Once DejaVu opens (which is soon) every single ride in the park will be open.
as far as saffing is concerned, I found out from a friend who applied that they already have so many students set up for the summer, that they are no longer hiring for the rides department for the AM shift. SO my conclusion is that school is an excuse. They have the employees but they arent completly available yet. To be complaining about staffing so soon in the season is dumb. Its gonna get better once school gets out so whats the point.
Remember, there's nothing but air beneath the chair.
I went on June 1st too, and actually found it quite nice compared to other visits. Lines were very very short in the morning (Save Raging bull...my friends and I were able to get on Whizzer, American Eagle and V2 with like 5 minutes of waiting each before noon), and Raging Bull wasn't very bad in the afternoon (We rode it twice...both times didn't have what seemed like more than a 30-45 minute wait, and plus the rear-most section of the line wasn't open anyways).
I also thought that American Eagle seemed faster than I remember it, as someone else posted too...was very strange.
I was kind of irked that Space Shuttle America wasn't open though. That was my favorite ride as a kid, and I loved when they brought it back. This was the first time I've ever seen it closed!
(Just found this forum by the way, amazed I didn't earlier! )
guitarhero119 wrote:as far as saffing is concerned, I found out from a friend who applied that they already have so many students set up for the summer, that they are no longer hiring for the rides department for the AM shift. SO my conclusion is that school is an excuse. They have the employees but they arent completly available yet. To be complaining about staffing so soon in the season is dumb. Its gonna get better once school gets out so whats the point.
It costs the same amount to get in in May as it does in July.
No theme park is perfect even disney probably had some problems with their park. Just go to GA enjoy youre day and ride whatever rides they have open and try and have a good time .
Some of these problems had nothing to do with staffing. Alot had to do with all the snobby 8th graders that were in the park.
-I saw THREE razor cell phones on the brake run catwalk for S:UF
-There was a entire station full of kids on AE which all had there towels and book bags and stuff. Many of them were putting them in the wrong area.
-I saw a total of 9 kids who tried to take pictures with there phones/digital cameras.
-And there were just a bunch of dumb snobby kids walking around the park. So im sure after a hot day, and dealing with all those kids, im sure the Ops were a little tired.
And if you were there long enough. You would have noticed that there were less then 10-15 min waits for everything after 6:45/7:00.
It was just a bad day, all those kids, and a shorthand of staff, just caused a bad day. And I can think of many other days at sfgam when things were ALOT worse.
Uggg, Those 8th graders ticked me off. I'm glad they left around 5/6 because the park was wide open after they left. And their not the class of 07' their the class of 011'..
There were just so many of them! And it seemed like ALL of them had those damn Razor phones.
They think there all cool, (pretending) to make out, buying there $4.50 Rock-star drinks, taking photos with there phones...thinking there "photographers", mouthing off to the staff, bouncing basketballs. It probably put a lot of stress on the Ops causing problems.
rb1 wrote:No theme park is perfect even disney probably had some problems with their park. Just go to GA enjoy youre day and ride whatever rides they have open and try and have a good time .
The first Star Wars Weekend day had a few problems, but other than that we've been doing pretty good actually.
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The thing that bothers me the most is no offense to large people is they think they can get on but then can't. Im slightly large but I can still fit on practically everything. but for instance on May 26th I saw 8 people get taken off Bull because they couldn't get the red tape past the holder. And they keep trying and trying to get it past and then can't and they hold up the lines. I'm sorry if this offends anyone.
I have heard some of the horror stories of management at the park. I think SF needs to hire managers from the Hilton/Palmer House system. The staff there goes above and beyond to meet the guests needs at whatever cost and the employees are awarded for going above and beyond. Another way to garner point is to have a Points system for season pass holders.
Picture this and see what you think.
Walk up to AE, as you go through the line you swipe your pass. It now knows you rode AE for the 11th time that day.
For going and riding AE so much you garner points for stuff Like AE shirts. Similiar to a casino's comp system.
Would you go along with something like that? A guest benefit porgram?
I'm just thinking of ways SF could improve morale and employee as well as guest relations and happiness at the park.
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I think SF needs to hire managers from the Hilton/Palmer House system. The staff there goes above and beyond to meet the guests needs at whatever cost and the employees are awarded for going above and beyond. Another way to garner point is to have a Points system for season pass holders. 
Picture this and see what you think.
