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Postby B&MGuy29 on May 23rd, 2010, 1:09 am
onyxhotel08 wrote:Public Hearing: Variation at 542 N. Route 21 (Six Flags Great America Park), for Great America, LLC
(Great America, LLC has submitted a variation petition to exceed the 125 foot height restriction to allow for the construction of a new roller coaster ride to a maximum height of 150.17 feet that will be located in the Space Port area. The subject property is the existing Six Flags Great America Park (located between Grand Ave and Washington St and Rte 21 and the I-94 Tollway) and is zoned C/S-1 Outdoor Recreational District.)

I thought Chang was 154 feet tall?



The difference in height could also be because they plan on building the first drop in a valley in the ground similar to some of the drops on Raging Bull!!!
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Postby onyxhotel08 on May 23rd, 2010, 1:30 am
Slim chances but you never know with makeovers I guess.
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Postby w00dland on May 23rd, 2010, 2:00 am
david wrote:It is almost completely impossible that they have footers in, and they have yet to close off the needed parking lot area. BS. Just like the time someone thought it would be bright to post that the park confirmed Chang as Green lantern for 2011. psh.


Wrong. http://tweetphoto.com/22855311

Snapped that photo on Monday. Rock wall. And those footers are way too big to be anything else.
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Postby forddude1416 on May 23rd, 2010, 4:24 am
the rock wall? by demon?
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Postby Paradise on May 23rd, 2010, 8:18 am
^yeah, that doesn't make much sense....Hmmm...guess we will have to wait and see... maybe we are getting both Chang AND a waterpark expansion? I have no idea anymore..
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Postby david on May 23rd, 2010, 9:18 am
The likely hood that any other park will receive a NEW B&M right after exiting bankruptcy is slim. The only park I can see getting a new B&M is Magic Mountain, the beloved child.
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Postby david on May 23rd, 2010, 9:21 am
w00dland wrote:
david wrote:It is almost completely impossible that they have footers in, and they have yet to close off the needed parking lot area. BS. Just like the time someone thought it would be bright to post that the park confirmed Chang as Green lantern for 2011. psh.


Wrong. http://tweetphoto.com/22855311

Snapped that photo on Monday. Rock wall. And those footers are way too big to be anything else.


The only problem with that is, Chang is nearly confirmed for the "space-port" area. Maybe something like a flat? I really don't know but those footers are NOT in the SSA area, so I doubt they're for Chang.
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Postby SFGAmgirl on May 23rd, 2010, 9:43 am
david wrote:The likely hood that any other park will receive a NEW B&M right after exiting bankruptcy is slim. The only park I can see getting a new B&M is Magic Mountain, the beloved child.


SFMM is not "the beloved child". SFMM has to compete with KBF, USH, and freaking Disneyland. Of course the park is going to need a way to attract new guests every year, whether you like it or not. SFGAm has absolutely no competition in this area, so SFI doesn't need to pump money into the park to keep people coming. If the park didn't receive a mega attraction in the next ten years, people would still come. This park already has plenty to get people to come back every year.
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Postby david on May 23rd, 2010, 9:51 am
^ Indeed, but Six Flags can add attractions other than coasters to attract the public. As much as you think the park is advertising to families, the coaster section should not be longer than the families section, that is outrageous! The park wants to compete with Dineyland, then don't add a thrill ride yearly! Believe it or not, the park -huh- WILL loose attendance if they add NOTHING.
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Postby traincrossing9 on May 23rd, 2010, 10:46 am
w00dland wrote:
david wrote:It is almost completely impossible that they have footers in, and they have yet to close off the needed parking lot area. BS. Just like the time someone thought it would be bright to post that the park confirmed Chang as Green lantern for 2011. psh.


Wrong. http://tweetphoto.com/22855311

Snapped that photo on Monday. Rock wall. And those footers are way too big to be anything else.

Wasn't that the rumored location of the 4d attraction that Six Flags got at IAAPA?
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Postby SFGAmgirl on May 23rd, 2010, 12:37 pm
david wrote:^ Indeed, but Six Flags can add attractions other than coasters to attract the public. As much as you think the park is advertising to families, the coaster section should not be longer than the families section, that is outrageous! The park wants to compete with Dineyland, then don't add a thrill ride yearly! Believe it or not, the park -huh- WILL loose attendance if they add NOTHING.


Disneyland has the history that makes people want to go there, no matter what they add. SFMM is adding Mr. Six's Dance Coaster, Mr. Six's Splash Island, and already has a Thomas Town. People my age get excited to go to SFGAm, whether or not they're adding a new attraction. To the GP, SFGAm already has PLENTY of thrills. My GP friends have already gone to the park three times this season, and all that was added to the park was MagiQuest so far. SFGAm ISN'T marketing their park and business to coaster enthusiasts, they are marketing it to the general public. The GP speaks amazingly of Raging Bull and Superman, although we know that they are sub-par when compared to the world's collection of coaster.

SFMM added TS:TR last year, which can easily be classified as a coaster that a family with kids 8+ can ride. The year before that, they transformed X2, AND added a huge Thomas Town section. Now, Six Flags is NOT a Universal or Disney, but they are trying to appeal their product to every demographic.

I know that this is the Chang thread, but it just bothers me when coaster enthusiasts complain about upper level management. Six Flags is a business, and they are out there to make money, whether or not you think that their decisions are wrong.
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Postby monsterfan99 on May 23rd, 2010, 2:11 pm
^The empty Thomas Town at SFMM speaks of how well they know their audience.
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Postby onyxhotel08 on May 23rd, 2010, 4:37 pm
Yeah I heard it did nothing for numbers that season.
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Postby Paradise on May 23rd, 2010, 5:46 pm
congrats, Chang?
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Postby Galvan on May 24th, 2010, 10:37 am
Now the fun part can truly begin:

1. Whats Chang's new name going to be?
2. Whats its color scheme going to be?
3. Floorless, Stand-Up or Sit Down?
4. On board audio?
5. If its converted, what about Chang's current trains?


What do you think?


1. Bizzaro
2. Blue and Purple
3. Floorless
4. Yes
5. Used on Iron Wolf


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Postby Paradise on May 24th, 2010, 10:40 am
The Criteria

1. Whats Chang's new name going to be?
2. Whats its color scheme going to be?
3. Floorless, Stand-Up or Sit Down?
4. On board audio?
5. If its converted, what about Chang's current trains?


My guess


1. Green Lantern
2. Green and Black
3. Sit-Down
4. Doubt it
5. Used on Iron Wolf

I'll throw $50 down on that.
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Postby DejaVuGurl1203 on May 24th, 2010, 11:16 am
1. Bizarro
2. Blue and Purple
3. Floorless
4. Maybe
5. Used on Iron Wolf

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Postby monsterfan99 on May 24th, 2010, 11:21 am
My guess is stand-up and no changes minus a paint job.
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Postby B&MGuy29 on May 24th, 2010, 12:50 pm
Galvan316 wrote:Now the fun part can truly begin:

1. Whats Chang's new name going to be?
2. Whats its color scheme going to be?
3. Floorless, Stand-Up or Sit Down?
4. On board audio?
5. If its converted, what about Chang's current trains?


What do you think?


1. Bizzaro
2. Blue and Purple
3. Floorless
4. Yes
5. Used on Iron Wolf


PLACE YOUR BETS

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I'm going out on a limb......

1. Green Lantern
2. Blue & Purple
3. 4D......haha
4. Yes
5. Iron Wolf
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Postby Chitown on May 24th, 2010, 2:57 pm
Silly fools, you have it all wrong.

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Postby Goku1910 on May 24th, 2010, 3:06 pm
Shouldn't the topic name be changed to Chang Confirmed? Or better yet "The 2011 Coaster"
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Postby Cole on May 24th, 2010, 4:09 pm
1. Whats Chang's new name going to be?
2. Whats its color scheme going to be?
3. Floorless, Stand-Up or Sit Down?
4. On board audio?
5. If its converted, what about Chang's current trains?


1: Green Lantern (for the 2011 movie coming)
2: Green and Lime Green
3: Floorless god I hope.
4: Whats there to put with green lantern?
5: Dumped most likley.
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Postby onyxhotel08 on May 24th, 2010, 4:29 pm
I know Green Hornet comes out early 2011 but when does Lantern hit theaters?
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Postby BLADE on May 24th, 2010, 5:51 pm
. Whats Chang's new name going to be?
2. Whats its color scheme going to be?
3. Floorless, Stand-Up or Sit Down?
4. On board audio?
5. If its converted, what about Chang's current trains

1. Green Lantern; too good to pass up with a June 17th 2011 release
2. Green
3. Floorless; We were supposed to get one in 99. We got Bull instead.
4. Yes, it's the new trend.
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Postby sfgam1 on May 24th, 2010, 6:18 pm
1.Bizzaro
2. Blue, Purple, and Yellow
3.Stand Up
4. Probably not but would be awesome to have!
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