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Postby Mr. D.T. on November 1st, 2005, 9:00 pm
msoeagle wrote:Maybe if sfgam expands there parking lot will all be happy and they can build a floorless in the parking lot.


How would Six Flags be stupid enough to do that after putting themselves in an issue with Hurricane Harbor? They had to use half of the employee parking lot for the guests on the busy days while the employees suffered on the grass adjacent to it. I think a parking garage would have been a good idea. They at least need to do something to accomodate more spaces. Maybe they could build one across the tollway and then drill a tunnel under it for the guests to pass through. The next coaster I think would be in the place of Splashwater Falls and hover above the Amphitheatre and go between Giant Drop and American Eagle.
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Postby FRD714 on November 1st, 2005, 9:03 pm
^ Good idea. I dont know how much land is on the other side of the highway, but they could move the entire parking lot to the other side. Then have monorails or something that bring guest to the park. This would leave them so much room for new coasters and rides.
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Postby [jonrev] on November 1st, 2005, 9:04 pm
This topic is probably going to get locked soon. It's the Whizzer topic all over again.
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Postby FRD714 on November 1st, 2005, 9:07 pm
How! Im not even talking about whizzer. This is just an idea I had.
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Postby mschulz5 on November 1st, 2005, 9:30 pm
Six Flags owns no land on the other side of the highway. They sold it all off a few years ago.
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Postby Sedir on November 1st, 2005, 9:30 pm
Refering to the first question...

Most underappreciated: Demon.

I always manage to get a kick out of this ride. Especially the first drop.
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Postby FRD714 on November 1st, 2005, 9:44 pm
^ Demons drop is just classic! I love this ride.

mschulz5 wrote:Six Flags owns no land on the other side of the highway. They sold it all off a few years ago.

Darn! They could of done something good with it.
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Postby Binks Drake on November 1st, 2005, 9:56 pm
LIKE BUILD HH THERE! GRRRRR!

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Postby twixmix0303 on November 1st, 2005, 10:35 pm
I think it is fine the way it is now. It would be virtually impossible to get from one park to the other without getting in the car and driving down Grand Avenue. Although that might encourage more people to spend two days at the parks rather than just one.
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Postby Shockwavegirl on November 2nd, 2005, 1:03 am
mschulz5 wrote:Six Flags owns no land on the other side of the highway. They sold it all off a few years ago.


Yep, after the Village of Gurnee told them they could not build a bridge or drill a tunnel over/under the tollway. That's where they originally were planning Hurricane Harbor to go. Which is why the waterpark finally debuted 6 years after it was originally supposed to, in the former bus parking lot.
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Postby slydoc on November 2nd, 2005, 3:24 pm
About Whizzer two things: 1) I don't want to turn any thread into one already in existence and 2) I don't want to bore anyone (so I'll save the deatils)

Looking at SF and their inpark coaster distribution between what I call "family" coasters and "nonfamily coasters" (family coasters being steel coasters, w/out inversions, powered launches or hyper(+) class height) we see the following numbers looking at SF's "major" parks:

Family Total Coasters % Family
over Texas 5 12 42
NE 3 9 33
Fiesta 2 6 33
MM 5 16(17) 31(29)
St L 2 7 29
MW 2 8 25
KK 2 8 25
G AM 3 12 25
G Adv 3 12(13) 25(23)
over GA 2 10(11) 20(18)
Am 1 8 13

Presently SFGAm is exactly in the middle (tied for 6 out of 11 parks) in the percent of family coasters it has and will remain in the middle even when MM, oGA, and GAdv get their new coasters. But, if SFGAm got a thrill coaster (like a floorless) in place of Whizzer (dropping us down to only 17% family coasters) then we'll be next to last in the lowest number of family coasters to total coasters, as a percentage.

Whizzer is an interesting coaster in that it might be the most over and under appreciated coaster in the park. It may be underappreciated by enthusiats as to how much the GP love it, but it might also be considered the most overappreciated coaster in that it's so loved for a coaster that doesn't have much height, speed, launch power, inversions or even wood, and it's old.

That said, I'd still love to get a new floorless/multi looper coaster. But, it would be nice to keep everyone happy.

(Note it seems like Six Flags over Texas, of all parks, seems to have the biggest beef for not having thrilling coasters.)
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Postby msoeagle on November 2nd, 2005, 8:30 pm
Im just saying somethings gotta give whether its whizzer or not. They could take down the two flumes and relocate one to hurricane harbor and scrap the other one and build a new coaster, or section there.
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Postby twixmix0303 on November 2nd, 2005, 8:34 pm
The flumes are fine where they are! How would reloacting them help anything? First off, it wastes precious dollars, not good for a company over $2 billion in debt. Why not just build the coaster you assume we are getting in place of where the flumes would move too? People, it's not rocket science, but some of you come up with the worst ideas sometimes.
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Postby msoeagle on November 2nd, 2005, 9:06 pm
Cause the place im suggesting there going to is f**kin hurricane harbor and youre not going to see a floorless there. WHY Do you always say my ideas are bad ones?
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Postby twixmix0303 on November 2nd, 2005, 9:12 pm
Because they are. :) Do you really understand how much it costs to move a ride? It's not a game of 51-stick pick-up. Think about it: moving the flumes would have no effect on the general public, because there is no new ride. Why would they care where the rides are located? The park isn't just going to throw money around silly-nilly so rides can be moved on a whim. The only reason the park would spend money is to invest it, building new rides that will in turn bring up attendance, increasing guest spending for the year, and bringing in more money than was originally put down to build the attraction.
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Postby msoeagle on November 2nd, 2005, 9:20 pm
Can someone answer my question logically, where are they going to put a new coaster if no ride is going anywhere?
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Postby twixmix0303 on November 2nd, 2005, 9:25 pm
That's a dumb question. It depends on what the coaster is that you claim is supposedly going in. I mean, Kingda Ka, Raging Bull, and Spacely's are three completely different rides. You don't just plop a ride down wherever, most coasters are custom built after the land is decided upon, not the other way around like you are saying (finding a coaster and then figuring out where it should go).
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Postby msoeagle on November 2nd, 2005, 9:44 pm
I guess thats true.
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Postby FRD714 on November 2nd, 2005, 9:45 pm
I never really thought about sfga getting a custom design. Making a custom coaster for a piece of land makes sense,
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Postby twixmix0303 on November 2nd, 2005, 9:50 pm
Actually, most of our coasters were custom built for our park: American Eagle, Batman, Turn of the Century/Demon, Iron Wolf, Raging Bull, Viper, and Whizzer.
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Postby FRD714 on November 2nd, 2005, 9:51 pm
Batman is at many parks though.
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Postby mschulz5 on November 2nd, 2005, 9:52 pm
The first one was built at SFGAm, however, and since people liked it so much, and it has such a tiny footprint, it has been cloned many times all over the world.
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Postby FRD714 on November 2nd, 2005, 9:54 pm
Didnt know that. Wow, our park is really famous. First btr, first hyper twister and what else was there?
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Postby msoeagle on November 2nd, 2005, 9:55 pm
Yeah there like 10 of them.
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Postby twixmix0303 on November 2nd, 2005, 10:03 pm
A lot of our coasters debuted as record holders. Which reminds me, that list doesn't include any defunct coasters. Anyways:

American Ealge-opened as world's tallest, fastest racing wooden roller coaster
Batman-world's first inverted coaster, as well as the first B:TR (ours is not a clone)
Iron Wolf-first roller coaster designed and built by newly formed B&M
Raging Bull-world's first hyper-twister roller coaster
Shockwave-opened as world's tallest rollercoaster
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