Dan The Coaster Man wrote:Event schedule is on the website
So from the website i noticed a few things:
1. The 4th of July event has been renamed and is no longer sponsored by Coca-Cola 2. With the Exception of Grad Night, Boo Fest, and Fright Fest, all other events have removed the Six Flags Branding. 3. The Park's last day of operation this year is most likely November 2nd
Hopefully that Great American Nights event keeps the Classic "Great" text from the original Great America logo like the previous Great Summer Nights Logo
coasterfanatic wrote:It hasn’t been sponsored by Coke for years now.
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Um, this totally is the Coca-Cola logo
Maybe at some parks but I don’t think it was at ours because I remember specifically discussing how it wasn’t sponsored by Coke anymore. Because the whole celebration was scaled back from the “4th Fest” days
coasterfanatic wrote:It hasn’t been sponsored by Coke for years now.
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Um, this totally is the Coca-Cola logo
Maybe at some parks but I don’t think it was at ours because I remember specifically discussing how it wasn’t sponsored by Coke anymore. Because the whole celebration was scaled back from the “4th Fest” days
But I could be wrong…
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Well my image comes from Great America's 2024 map so i'm think it was
Old Great America was better, however I hope just a bit of that charm comes back
GreatAmericanfox wrote:[quote="coasterfanatic"]It hasn’t been sponsored by Coke for years now.
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Um, this totally is the Coca-Cola logo
Maybe at some parks but I don’t think it was at ours because I remember specifically discussing how it wasn’t sponsored by Coke anymore. Because the whole celebration was scaled back from the “4th Fest” days
But I could be wrong…
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Well my image comes from Great America's 2024 map so i'm saying it was[/quote]Just randomly have a map lying around. That’s believable. But it’s not worth the argument anyways.
It’s also possible that it was originally supposed to be sponsored by Coke and then changed when the event got closer..but again, not worth the argument. It’s not a big deal.
Well my image comes from Great America's 2024 map so i'm think it was[/quote]
Yes that’s correct. Although I didn’t see the garbage cans with the big coke logos out this past year. Happy to hear the nighttime parade is coming back. Riding in the bugs bunny parade as a kid in the 80s was always a huge memory of mine.
GreatAmericanfox wrote: Well my image comes from Great America's 2024 map so i'm think it was
Yes that’s correct. Although I didn’t see the garbage cans with the big coke logos out this past year. Happy to hear the nighttime parade is coming back. Riding in the bugs bunny parade as a kid in the 80s was always a huge memory of mine.
You were in the Bugs Bunny Parade? man i wish i could do that but i'm an unlucky person
Old Great America was better, however I hope just a bit of that charm comes back
GreatAmericanfox wrote: Well my image comes from Great America's 2024 map so i'm think it was
Yes that’s correct. Although I didn’t see the garbage cans with the big coke logos out this past year. Happy to hear the nighttime parade is coming back. Riding in the bugs bunny parade as a kid in the 80s was always a huge memory of mine.
You were in the Bugs Bunny Parade? man i wish i could do that but i'm an unlucky person
Yeah just riding in the trolley. Super fun as a kid.
I'm thrilled about the no smoking policy (which people will disobey anyway)
But the iROC I'm less thrilled about. All I've ever heard about it is that people hate it because it massively slows operations. I was already annoyed with the seat assigning. I wanna pick my damn seat. I always pick front of the train at Goliath because the rear causes me back pain from the sheer insanity of the negative G's.
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Goku1910 wrote:I'm thrilled about the no smoking policy (which people will disobey anyway)
But the iROC I'm less thrilled about. All I've ever heard about it is that people hate it because it massively slows operations. I was already annoyed with the seat assigning. I wanna pick my damn seat. I always pick front of the train at Goliath because the rear causes me back pain from the sheer insanity of the negative G's.
We'll see how Great America handles it, they had good ops last year i'm sure they can compromise with iROC while still keeping those faster operations
AS for smoking, as long as it's strictly enforced people won't do it
Old Great America was better, however I hope just a bit of that charm comes back
Goku1910 wrote:I'm thrilled about the no smoking policy (which people will disobey anyway)
But the iROC I'm less thrilled about. All I've ever heard about it is that people hate it because it massively slows operations. I was already annoyed with the seat assigning. I wanna pick my damn seat. I always pick front of the train at Goliath because the rear causes me back pain from the sheer insanity of the negative G's.
We'll see how Great America handles it, they had good ops last year i'm sure they can compromise with iROC while still keeping those faster operations
AS for smoking, as long as it's strictly enforced people won't do it
I agree with Goku! I always want to pick my own seat! And I think a row grouper is a total waste of a resource. People will naturally fill in rows where needed. I don't really like someone holding my hand and walking me to a row like has happened at Whizzer!
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I definitely prefer not having iROC, but implementing iROC shouldn't be the end of the world. Sure, dispatches are longer versus not having iROC, but it's not doubling dispatch times. We're talking 10 seconds or so, which sure that adds up over an hour or a day, but we shouldn't see anything crazy drastic. I am a little worried about the "transition period", but once they are settled in everything will be fine.
Dispatch times will still be dictated in most part by the specific crews. Look at Kings Island or Cedar Point, they can churn out trains with iROC. Steel Vengeance dispatches 2 or 3 times with IROC for every 1 time Goliath dispatches without iROC. Superman's crew last year was fantastic compared to prior years. Same ride, same policies, but it just came down to who was working there and how dedicated and motivated they were.
Personally I am a huge fan of groupers. in my opinion, people are not really good at doing this on their own. Nothing is more frustrating than seeing Bull consistently cycle with 6 rows only having 2 or 3 people in them. Groupers also do a good job at keeping stations organized. Viper with a full station is one of the worst experiences in the park. From my experience at Legacy CF parks, groupers are willing to accommodate row requests 95% of the time. I have had some experiences when they deny my requests when I am a solo rider and they use me to fill an empty seat at KBF and CanWon but otherwise it hardly ever an issue and usually goes over smoothly. Groupers at SFGAm have a little catching up to do in this regard (Maxx is good, but the rest), but it has not really a standard position across the park. I could see improvement if it becomes more prominent. Seems like an easy fix with training. But I don't think groupers are an iROC policy. I've been to Legacy CF parks where there have been no groupers on some big coasters (Wild Thing, Mamba, Patriot, I305/Project 305/Pantherian).
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Goku1910 wrote:I'm thrilled about the no smoking policy (which people will disobey anyway)
But the iROC I'm less thrilled about. All I've ever heard about it is that people hate it because it massively slows operations. I was already annoyed with the seat assigning. I wanna pick my damn seat. I always pick front of the train at Goliath because the rear causes me back pain from the sheer insanity of the negative G's.
You’d be in shock to find out how many parks use iRoc that aren’t notorious for bad ops.
For those who may not know, it’s a third party auditing company that has a ride training template parks use at all their rides. They do audits twice a year and evaluate 12 rides at random for a score.
In essence, iroc is like “make sure you check all the restraints each time you dispatch” and leaves how you do that up to the parks and then some parks (CF) do it a dumb way. Cedar fair being a corporate greedy husk makes their ride policies slow as hell on purpose so their idiot insurers think it’s somehow safer and give them good rates and also to encourage fast lane sales
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Dark Knight is really going to suffer with Iroc, since they'll now have to send only one train through the ride course and not allow the trains move in the station for better operations since they can load multiple trains at a time. I would feel so bad for the ride ops because if the line after the pre-show is backup there's gonna be issues.
Tidal_Waver wrote:Any word on the chaperone policy? I saw one of the Texas parks is doing it year round now.
Nothing concrete yet but at the Village meeting last month they said they planed on implementing it so I assume once it gets closer to opening date we will see an official announcement
MarcusCoaster1994 wrote:Dark Knight is really going to suffer with Iroc, since they'll now have to send only one train through the ride course and not allow the trains move in the station for better operations since they can load multiple trains at a time. I would feel so bad for the ride ops because if the line after the pre-show is backup there's gonna be issues.
keep an eye on Dark Knight's operations
Great point! I could see this slowing down Dark Knight sadly.
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MarcusCoaster1994 wrote:Dark Knight is really going to suffer with Iroc, since they'll now have to send only one train through the ride course and not allow the trains move in the station for better operations since they can load multiple trains at a time. I would feel so bad for the ride ops because if the line after the pre-show is backup there's gonna be issues.
keep an eye on Dark Knight's operations
Great point! I could see this slowing down Dark Knight sadly.
it's actually happened at great adventure's dark night here is a video from adrenaline rush coaster media talking about iRoc and talked about dorney park stacking their trains on their wild mouse coaster https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oz5wgjMCp8
Tidal_Waver wrote:Any word on the chaperone policy? I saw one of the Texas parks is doing it year round now.
Nothing concrete yet but at the Village meeting last month they said they planed on implementing it so I assume once it gets closer to opening date we will see an official announcement
this is what I anticipate.
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1. Smoking is no longer allowed except for at the front gate (this goes for all other parks too)
2. Six Flags Great America has been iROC certified
Outside the front gate or right inside? Just curious.
Y'know the area where you get your Tickets and Guest Relations after you get scanned? That's what i consider "front gate", they may push it out even before you have to be scanned and get bag checked, but as far as i know, once you show your tickets and you're in Carousel Plaza, there's no smoking.
Old Great America was better, however I hope just a bit of that charm comes back
