New Ride(s) for 2017

[staticshadows]

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[Tardis1972]

^^ And both Six Flags and Gerstlauer pointed fingers at each other. Neither seemed to want to take the blame.

[stergmi]

Isn't that the accident where the woman passed out and slipped through the restraints? That seems super flukey. Hard to believe either side was truly at fault

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[Tardis1972]

Yep that's exactly what happen.

[ilrider]

Isn't that the accident where the woman passed out and slipped through the restraints? That seems super flukey. Hard to believe either side was truly at fault

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I never heard about the passing out part, but if you ever saw a photo of her, she was very large. Something about her shape probably caused a shifting of her weight under the restraint that caused her to eject from the ride. I don't think there was ever a final, conclusive report issued by any agency or the park.

[Wisco Woody]

Gerstlauer really had to lower their prices after NTG and the horrific Smiler accident, and that's why Adventureland and other smaller parks are able to afford their state of the art coasters like Monster and the upcoming Gold Rush. Six Flags will not and should not work with Gerstlauer again, especially since Premier Rides offers similar high tech coasters at an even lower price and a near perfect safety record.

[bbd]

Gerstlauer really had to lower their prices after NTG and the horrific Smiler accident, and that's why Adventureland and other smaller parks are able to afford their state of the art coasters like Monster and the upcoming Gold Rush. Six Flags will not and should not work with Gerstlauer again, especially since Premier Rides offers similar high tech coasters at an even lower price and a near perfect safety record.

GMBH Infinity coasters are pretty good and cost only 8M, Unfortunate the past problems make that not a real possibility. SF has not done a coaster with Premier Rides since 2013 Full Throttle(Sky Rocket III) and 2012 Superman Ultimate(Sky Rocket II). Those are good rides in my opinion, but have not been repeated, wish 1 or 2 of each were bought across the SF family. They were pretty cost friendly, just like the 4D's. I wonder if SF remains happy with S&S performance with 4D's, will they possibly get S&S launch coasters. S&S has an new Triple Launch-El Loco Coaster which they built at Castaway Cove called Galeforce. Don't know the price but several articles talked about it's practical cost and a good fit for a smaller parks budget. SF is not a small park but are in a cost conscious coaster phase it seems. S&S Launch is likely equal or less than a cost of a 4D. The POV's of it make it seem like an equivalent thrill to a Sky Rocket II. S&S also makes an Air/LSM launch that is around 15M. But, if you're going to get into the 15M+ range than get an Intamin launch . SF could go super cheap route and get Zamperla Moto Coaster (Flywheel launch) which are 4.65M

[mugnezz]

because Gerstlauer should lower the prices of their products due to an incident referred to are not to blame? You should think before you write

[Wisco Woody]

Well we sort of "know" that the next "major" coaster addition will not be until 2020 or 2021. Remember that before deciding on X-Flight for 2012, SFGAm was considering adding either Chang, now Green Lantern at GAdv, or a complete circuit launch coaster by Mack for 2011, which would have put 3 years between each major coaster addition. But yes the issue is not if we will get a coaster in 2020/21, but if it will be a $15-$20+ million megacoaster that breaks 85 mph, giga plz, which is unlikely. More likely it will be a smaller $6-$10 million launch coaster by Premier or S&S or etc., and hopefully it will be complete circuit and multi-train like Full Throttle.

[bbd]

Well we sort of "know" that the next "major" coaster addition will not be until 2020 or 2021. Remember that before deciding on X-Flight for 2012, SFGAm was considering adding either Chang, now Green Lantern at GAdv, or a complete circuit launch coaster by Mack for 2011, which would have put 3 years between each major coaster addition. But yes the issue is not if we will get a coaster in 2020/21, but if it will be a $15-$20+ million megacoaster that breaks 85 mph, giga plz, which is unlikely. More likely it will be a smaller $6-$10 million launch coaster by Premier or S&S or etc., and hopefully it will be complete circuit and multi-train like Full Throttle.

Sky Rocket III (Full Throttle) is the best of the low end launch coasters. I would thrilled if we got something like that with a modified track design, as Full Throttle was built in 2013. SF seems to be in a low cost coaster pattern. The have a new CEO and maybe things will change. I'll give hm a pass on the less than inspiring additions for 2017 You have to figure many of those things might have been in the works before he got the job. Next year is on him.

[RollingCoasting]

or a complete circuit launch coaster by Mack for 2011, which would have put 3 years between each major coaster addition.

I've somehow never heard anything about this, can someone explain?

[SFGAMNUT9302]

https://rcdb.com/8612.htm I would love to see something like Sky Rocket at Kennywood placed in the front of the park where the Pictorium currently stands.

[RollingCoasting]

ERC Is being renamed the Lobster

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[WolfsterJ]

ERC Is being renamed the Lobster

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It was already posted in the minor updates thread.

[maxwellt]

Yay. The lobster returns in 2017

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[RollingCoasting]

ERC Is being renamed the Lobster

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It was already posted in the minor updates thread.

It's not a 2016 update anyway, and who cares?

[SFGAM_Hog]

ERC Is being renamed the Lobster

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It was already posted in the minor updates thread.

It doesn't matter

[Dan The Coaster Man]

I love Full Throttle to death. My biggest complaint is the restraints. Lap bars are great, but when you are tall like me, all Premier Rides restraints kill your legs. It's like being stapled on Goliath except it's worse because the shin guards are totally jabbing into your legs as well while on Goliath the shine guards feel great. People say FT is short. And while it is not long, I felt that it was "average". I didn't think it was short at all. I would love a clone at SFGAm, or a custom.

[maxwellt]

The earliest were gonna see something like full throttle is 2019. Great america has added coasters every other year (and a 3 year gap between Goliath and joker) so its very possible to see that come in 2019, and has the potential of being the number 3 at the park. Maybe even a launch trex!?!

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[jmanporty7]

A multi-launch coaster by premier rides with a 150ft tall loop and another inversion or 2 would be awesome for 2019.


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[Wisco Woody]

2019 is likely too early for anything other than a $6 million Premier launch coaster, which is possible. But I think the park is more likely looking to compete with the 2020 additions at Cedar Point and possibly a 2020/21 coaster at King's Island. But for a huge $20+ million addition, we have to accept that we will likely either lose both of the log flumes and Rapids, Pictorium and Whizzer, or possibly an even more tragic loss(AE?).

[stergmi]

2019 is likely too early for anything other than a $6 million Premier launch coaster, which is possible. But I think the park is more likely looking to compete with the 2020 additions at Cedar Point and possibly a 2020/21 coaster at King's Island. But for a huge $20+ million addition, we have to accept that we will likely either lose both of the log flumes and Rapids, Pictorium and Whizzer, or possibly an even more tragic loss(AE?).

Both flumes, picnic grove and the theater sit on a lot of land. By 2020 the flumes will be 45 years old. They'll need to go or get major renovations

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[jmanporty7]

The flumes and wilderness theater alone opens up a big plot of land. Adding some, but not all, of picnic grove and they would plenty of space to build a premier launch coaster. Build as big as a coaster possible with a $10 million budget.


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[RollingCoasting]

Demon's/Orbit's/and Sky Trail's space is enough room for a compact launched coaster.....

Also, maybe its our turn for the "Large" Coaster Drought again

Let's say Goliath (2014) = Superman:Ultimate Flight(2003)
Joker(2017) = TDK + Ragin Cajun(2006-Median Year)
Family/Kiddie Coaster(2020?) = Little Dipper(2010)
Launched Coaster (2023) = X-Flight(2012)

It seems unlikely that Six Flags would wait until 2023 to give us another large coaster, but think about it. In 2 years, we got an RMC Wooden Coaster and a B&M Wing Coaster - Something that no other Six Flags park has (Yet)

[bbd]

Demon's/Orbit's/and Sky Trail's space is enough room for a compact launched coaster.....

Also, maybe its our turn for the "Large" Coaster Drought again

Let's say Goliath (2014) = Superman:Ultimate Flight(2003)
Joker(2017) = TDK + Ragin Cajun(2006-Median Year)
Family/Kiddie Coaster(2020?) = Little Dipper(2010)
Launched Coaster (2023) = X-Flight(2012)

It seems unlikely that Six Flags would wait until 2023 to give us another large coaster, but think about it. In 2 years, we got an RMC Wooden Coaster and a B&M Wing Coaster - Something that no other Six Flags park has (Yet)

SF across parks may have less "Coaster Droughts" b/c they don't seem to building expensive coasters anymore. The last completely new coasters was in 2014, Goliath was around 14M. RMC converts have been costing 7-10M, 4D's are 7mil, the last 2 launch coasters in 2012/2013 were around 6-7Mil. A Giant Discovery costs almost the same as a 4D. The new plan may be towards smaller/cheaper coasters, but you get them more often. SF doesn't seem to be into building 15-25M coasters like Busch, Cedar Point, etc.. GAdv needs a wing or dive coaster to hep round out their lineup, but I don't know if SF is going to spend the big bucks needed soon. Adding a RMC or launch would not do a lot for them in my opinion.

I do think many parks could see huge benefit from the cost effective Premier Rides launch models. I kind of hope they stop the 4D's soon b/c being in 6 of 13 parks is about enough. However, you can easily make a case for any of the remaining parks to get 4D's. DK and Stl already have launch coasters, the other low cost coaster option. OG would be the 1st 4D in the south, but they could also use a launch coaster or a RMC of Ga Cyclone. SF Mexico, 1st 4D in latin america, but could use a launch too. SFAm just needs something. Cases like this can be made for the rest too.

The 3 things SF has being doing with coasters lately is RMC converts, 4D's and they threw in a couple of launches in 2012/2013. A parks coaster future may be determined by which of those they don't have. All are cost effective over building a brand new wing, dive, high end launch coasters, or hyper/giga coaster, which are all in the 15-25M range.