New Ride(s) for 2015

[SFGAMNUT9302]

If they did a HTS re-birth, they could easily market that like they did with Mardi gras. Put a flat ride in the center of HTS, a flying Scooter possibly, along with reinstalling the Ameri-Go-Round and the Kids rides, as well as giving whizzer a paint job.

[DeathbyDinn]

I just don't see what the park would have to gain from bringing back the Ameri-go-Round. It's not something that's really that marketable, and I don't see a demand for it when our current carousel never has a line anyways. I'd so much rather see money go towards sprucing up Colombia.

[anewman35]

you could market the return of Ameri-go-round IF say they are doing a total rehap of Columbia that will keep it out of action for all or most of 2015. Especially if along with the total rehab on Columbia they were reshaping the plaza entirely.

I don't see it. "In 2015, GO BIG with an old carousal that we're putting in because we're redoing the good carousal!"' Nope, there's got to be more.

[dlmtechnology]

ok, of the rides shown in the flashback video, do any of them exist anywhere or have they all been scrapped? Would it be possible that one or more could be brought back. I only know Sky Whirl, and Shockwave were scrapped, but does that mean they wouldn't / couldn't commission some company to make a new one based on their old plans? Don't see a coster being rebuild as I don't see available land, but something smaller perhaps?

In regards to redoing Carousel plaza, what would you do? shorten the reflecting pond? I wouldn't, the only available plot (without tearing out the Pictorium [and remember there is a huge obstacle of some large rock formation there, thats why the aisles were built into the rock and not excavated]) the only things to do is make a Hurricane Harbor entrance there by Sky Trek Tower, or toss in a flat in that space, but most definitely not another carousel in carousel plaza

Perhaps the pictorium will be upgraded, no longer a movie house, but instead a real stage production house, expand the front of the building out into that area, perhaps it's been in the plans for awhile since Theater Royale was switched over, maybe thats why the buildings exterior never saw any fresh paint, why paint it when your gonna change it soon.


Perhaps, maybe, just maybe, they will get 50 tons of Scott's Turf Builder Plus Weed Control and blanket the park to kill all the weeds. GO BIG, GO LANDSCAPING, GO SIX FLAGS!

[Jodon]

I'm confused... where is this rock formation under the Pictorium rumor start? From a picture from opening day, the ground where the Pictorium now stands looks like a standard mound from excess dirt removed during the construction of the park. It also looks like half of this "rock formation" has already been removed for the STT, and water park expansion. I'm not saying that they did not use the mound to aid in the construction of the stadium seating in the Pictorium, but I highly doubt that it is this problematic rock formation that will cost tons of money to remove.

In this photo, you can see the construction of the Pictorium, which basically proves what I was talking about. You can see they removed a significant portion of the dirt mound, but kept some of it for the stadium seating.

For some reason, I can't get the image to load directly, but here is a link to the picture for your reference: http://www.greatamericaparks.com/images ... play_media

All this to say, I doubt that what is under the Pictorium is going to have any impact on the fate of the Pictorium.

[dlmtechnology]

I don't remember where I read it just that was an interesting factoid that stood out in my head when I did. (I don't follow many sites just this one and greatamericaparks.com, was it shown in one of the screams and dreams?) Somewhere I had read that they decided to use the rock for the stadium seating rather than try and dig it out

Oh well, moving on!

[JimPanky]

...yeah the videos so far our playing with us. lol they bring up things we talk about on here alot aaaaaaaaaaand nope. lol They are having some fun with us. If the first few teasers have any solid clues which im not convinced they do it's possible BB is leaving and some show might be coming. buuuuuut Im not convinced these first few videos mean anything so both of those ideas are prolly not happening.

[JimPanky]

I wonder if maybe six flags St. Louis is going to move their scoops do ride here because I was just on Facebook and saw a picture on their page saying the ride would be permanently closed after September 14th

Don't let the haters get to ya. I can see that too. They are getting rid of it and we could use a dark ride. Dark ride has been brought up and Hank has expressed he wants one.

[ChicagoCoasterGuy]

Not saying it is happening, but here an interesting fact. The St. Louis Scooby Ride is the only one ever done with a water track as opposed to the other ones being regular cars on a track! Could it be possible that Buccener Battle is being transformed into a interactive dark ride? Scooby is 377 foot track and Buccener is 450 long track. Just something to think about and make you go hmmm......

Obviously something is going on with Buccaneer Battle and that's why the last video was "interrupted" for a flash back! I think I have some logic here, don't I?

[ilrider]

^It's possible. Once I saw SF St. Louis was retheming Scooby Doo I wondered if we could be getting some of the equipment from it for our own dark ride. BB just has too little ridership to make it worth paying ops to work it and to maintain it. I have walked on it both times I have ridden it. I also do not think it is that fun or as interactive as it could be.

A ride survey from the park I took months ago listed a dark ride as a potential future attraction and asked my feelings on one, so I definitely feel like one could be coming in the near future, since it is something the park really needs (and I mean an interactive dark ride, even though we have Dark Knight).

[SFGAMNUT9302]

#AmeriGoRound2015 lol

[BroServant7]

I believe one other person did mention this... do you think it's possible we'll get a remade sky whirl? I didn't realize this until today because of how few times I was at the park when Sky Whirl was around, but I guess it used to be right where BB is now. To go to BB and then show a flashback could be hinting at SW coming back in addition to the clues we've already seen concerning AGR which seem to be a real possibility. I like the idea of turning BB into an interactive dark ride even better, but it's just a thought.

[anewman35]

I guess either thing is possible, but I don't really think so. For the BB Dark Ride thing, I'd have to think we'd already see some signs of it (for example, SFOT is started working on a building for their ride weeks ago). As for a Sky Whirl, I could be totally wrong but it seems like it would cost a lot to get some company to build them a totally custom ride (does any company sell anything similar?). People like nostalgia, but I don't know if they care enough to spend a bunch on it.

[Superman]

All of you keep saying they can't market a small addition to the park, but not many of you have very much knowledge about marketing. I'm sure their marketing department will come up with a way to market whatever they put in. At cedar point all they did was put in two out of date flat rides and they didn't have a hard time marketing. Just because it doesn't sound good when you say "GO BIG WITH _____" doesn't mean it's not a good addition and won't bring up attendance And if they were to spend some time on their landscaping, it's not like they would put that in a commercial. But people would definitely start to notice the park looking nicer.

[FParker185]

Intamin still lists the Triple Wheel in their print catalogs, but the company who made Sky Whirl is long out of the ride business, I don't see it happening.

[Guy_With_A_Stick]

If they were to remove BB, they'd probably combine it's space with Sky Trail. I wouldn't be surprised if they added a Sling Shot for 2015, or maybe even a SkyScreamer for future years. I think the space of Sky Trail is big enough. FunTime said it requires at least a 50 foot diameter? I having recently been on Sky Trail think that with a few trees removed for another 5-10 feet, they could fit a SkyScreamer in that space much more easily than RC's spot. And back to BB, they would probably combine the space of BB, Go Karts, and Sky Trail, they could fit in a new kids area(Even though Camp Cartoon is not even a minute away), a few new flats, a dark ride, or a compact coaster, maybe using Sky Trail's area for a helix or some element. We won't know until the 28th.

[ShockWaveFan]

ok, of the rides shown in the flashback video, do any of them exist anywhere or have they all been scrapped?

A rundown of the rides featured in the flashback video:
--SkyWhirl (gone)
--The Whizzer (still operating)
--kiddie bee ride (gone)
--kiddie airplane ride (gone)
--Batman: The Ride (still operating)
--Viper (still operating)
--Tidal Wave (gone)
--Splashwater Falls (gone)
--Demon (still operating)
--American Eagle (still operating)
--Turn of the Century (now the Demon)
--Yankee Clipper (still operating)
(Plus footage of Patriotic Bugs Bunny and old parade footage.)

Nice mix of rides that are still there and rides that are gone. So no clue where they're going with this...

[ShockWaveFan]

All of you keep saying they can't market a small addition to the park, but not many of you have very much knowledge about marketing. I'm sure their marketing department will come up with a way to market whatever they put in. At cedar point all they did was put in two out of date flat rides and they didn't have a hard time marketing. Just because it doesn't sound good when you say "GO BIG WITH _____" doesn't mean it's not a good addition and won't bring up attendance

Precisely! I mean, small additions may not seem much to those of us that mainly go to Six Flags parks for the rollercoasters, but to families that are looking for something for everybody in the family, it means a lot. Most of the parks last year got additions to the kiddie areas or the waterpark areas. A few parks got flat rides, a few got SkyScreamers. Six Flags America got our Ragin Cajun (not really a "new" coaster, not a big coaster). And the only Six Flags parks that got rollercoasters last year were Six Flags Mexico and us. So you can't say that you can't market small additions to the parks. They'll find a way.

[ShockWaveFan]

I believe one other person did mention this... do you think it's possible we'll get a remade sky whirl? I didn't realize this until today because of how few times I was at the park when Sky Whirl was around, but I guess it used to be right where BB is now. To go to BB and then show a flashback could be hinting at SW coming back in addition to the clues we've already seen concerning AGR which seem to be a real possibility. I like the idea of turning BB into an interactive dark ride even better, but it's just a thought.

I could do without the SkyWhirl, to be honest. But I wouldn't mind if they installed a Ferris wheel of some sort.

Of all the old rides I miss (besides Shockwave), I really miss Eagle's Pass and Delta Flight. They were a nice way from getting from one side of the park to another without having to hoof it. (I was disappointed when they got rid of those sort of rides at Walt Disney World, too. The only other park I've been to that still has them has been Cedar Point, and I've heard rumors THEY might be getting rid of theirs, too.)

[anewman35]

The bees were just in the park last year (or the year before?) and they probably still have them around, so if any old ride comes back I think that's most likely.

I just need to clear something up, though - nobody is saying they can't market family rides or kids area additions or flat rides. What I said was that they can't simply market the return of an old carousal, and I stand by that. Every example people give from other parks is either a package of a few rides or a unique new flat ride, simply bringing back the Ameri-Go-Round is neither. A new kids area around Hometown Square would be a great addition (and perfectly marketable, especially in a year when they can still push Goliath hard).

[chicagoperson]

I just hope they don't over hype a really bad show *cough *cough ignight...

[SFGAMNUT9302]

The bees were just in the park last year (or the year before?) and they probably still have them around, so if any old ride comes back I think that's most likely.

I just need to clear something up, though - nobody is saying they can't market family rides or kids area additions or flat rides. What I said was that they can't simply market the return of an old carousal, and I stand by that. Every example people give from other parks is either a package of a few rides or a unique new flat ride, simply bringing back the Ameri-Go-Round is neither. A new kids area around Hometown Square would be a great addition (and perfectly marketable, especially in a year when they can still push Goliath hard).

I understand what you're saying. It would be very hard to market just one old flat ride returning without including it with a package of other rides. A Home Town Square revitilization, which included kids rides, The Ameri-Go-Round and a new flat for the center would be WAY easier to market than just the Ameri-Go-Round by itself. That would have been like trying to market the Big Top when it was returned without the Southwest territory, it was included in the package.

[Coastermonkey61]

My strong wish is that Sky Whirl returns, which was on the site that Buccaneer Battle is currently on, whose video was just interrupted with a flashback reel, which started with...Sky Whirl.

But that ain't happenin'.

[CoastsToCoasters]

OH MY GOODNESS look how nice the walkway into the park is :/ I really hope they redo our entrance plaza one day, move it out. I get so jealous of CP's & now Carowinds efficient & beautiful entrance(s).

As mentioned, all I keep thinkin is FERRIS WHEEL after skywhirl flashed on there several times. We have talked about a wheel missing in this park for god knows how long! I would love to see a wheel & family/kiddie coaster/family flat combo. All that would prob still be several million less than even Goliath.

[Banky]

I believe one other person did mention this... do you think it's possible we'll get a remade sky whirl? I didn't realize this until today because of how few times I was at the park when Sky Whirl was around, but I guess it used to be right where BB is now. To go to BB and then show a flashback could be hinting at SW coming back in addition to the clues we've already seen concerning AGR which seem to be a real possibility. I like the idea of turning BB into an interactive dark ride even better, but it's just a thought.

I could do without the SkyWhirl, to be honest. But I wouldn't mind if they installed a Ferris wheel of some sort.

Of all the old rides I miss (besides Shockwave), I really miss Eagle's Pass and Delta Flight. They were a nice way from getting from one side of the park to another without having to hoof it. (I was disappointed when they got rid of those sort of rides at Walt Disney World, too. The only other park I've been to that still has them has been Cedar Point, and I've heard rumors THEY might be getting rid of theirs, too.)

I too miss having a nice way to cut across the park. Especially now that I am bring young ones to the park that can't hike it all day long. And with the train round trip there are no short cuts. I would personally love if at some point reopen county fair train station and put in a faster traveling one of these http://chancerides.com/peoplemovers/skyliner.html if they refuse to do a regular cable one. I would ideally have it go from RC's old spot across the park to SWT or maybe the area where SWT, CF, and HTS all meet there.