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Galvan Investigates: The Case for a Sky Screamer

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Postby UWW-10 on June 10th, 2012, 4:33 pm
It's another "marketable" attraction for the chain. If it didn't go over well, they wouldn't have made duplicates. I wouldn't be surprised if one came to Gurnee next season at all. It's a gentle ride, but has the intimidation factor that a thrill-seeker would be looking for.

The footprint of the ride isn't that excessive so I'd imagine it could squeeze in just about anywhere. I wouldn't mind seeing it back by the Yukon area just to give that area an uplift. The flumes are more than likely on their last legs and other than the kids area, you don't have a draw back there.

On the flip side, the park is circular so it's not like a person would stop and turn back the other direction just to get to the other side. Any future development would likely point toward the Iron Wolf area.....I just don't see the park letting that area sit for 6+ years with nothing unlike the SWF scenario.
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Postby Chitown on June 11th, 2012, 2:46 pm
If the park is considering this ride, it would make the most sense to put it near Buccaneer Battle or in Southwest Territory in that huge open space near the tea cups.
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Postby Johnny.Ink on June 11th, 2012, 2:53 pm
Chitown wrote:If the park is considering this ride, it would make the most sense to put it near Buccaneer Battle or in Southwest Territory in that huge open space near the tea cups.


You mean where they have "concerts" and gatherings?

I think Southwest Territory already has a ton of stuff in it. If you make it too much it'll be hard to get in and out of.

Yukon Territory doesn't have too much in my opinion. I know this community loves it's flats, but I think getting ride of the Hometown Fun machine scrambler and putting in a Sky Screamer would be a good tradeoff.

Plus, you have a ton of trees and nice surroundings, so it would be cool to rise above the trees and see the park.

That ride is a blast at St. Louis.
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Postby Galvan on June 11th, 2012, 9:21 pm
I would hate having a Sky Screamer in SWT.

Besides the reason I mentioned in the article, I also think that a this ride would be out of place in Southwest Territory especially since these rides have amazing light packages (similar to Windseekers at CF parks) That to me anyway would be ruined in SWT.
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Postby Chitown on June 11th, 2012, 10:40 pm
Obviously if they put this ride in SWT, it would get a themed package for the area. I do like the idea of putting it near BB because has been stated before, it is basically the center of the park and would be a great replacement for Sky Whirl. Me personally, I would love a Sally dark ride instead.
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Postby tribar on June 11th, 2012, 11:18 pm
I personally think Yukon Territory is the best place. It would be nice to have something worth rideing in the area. County Fair just got a new major attraction and SWT would just look out of place.
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Postby woohoodude11 on June 12th, 2012, 11:17 am
UWW-10 wrote:The footprint of the ride isn't that excessive so I'd imagine it could squeeze in just about anywhere. I wouldn't mind seeing it back by the Yukon area just to give that area an uplift. The flumes are more than likely on their last legs and other than the kids area, you don't have a draw back there.


The footprint indeed isn't, but clearance for the "swinging" motion is. I know its massive in comparison, but the "wingspan" of Windseeker I'd say is huge, and I would certainly assume that the clearance would have to greatly exceed the actual footprint of the ride. A spot like Trailblazers old location wouldn't work. If anything I'd like to see it replace Condor.

I still stand by my statement of a Maxair or Skyhawk.
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Postby DejaVu2001 on June 12th, 2012, 11:30 am
^ We already have Revolution, so even though the Giant Frisbee is far superior, it wouldn't be very realistic (then again, we have 2 mice, and Six Flags is good at not making sense). As for the S&S Screamin' Swing, I rode the one at Silver Dollar City in 2007 and thought it was pretty lame, but the GP would probably like it.
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Postby woohoodude11 on June 12th, 2012, 3:23 pm
DejaVu2001 wrote:(then again, we have 2 mice, and Six Flags is good at not making sense).

My exact reasoning for not doubting it happening! I had a blast with Skyhawk, the whole 100+ feet up looking down and the awesome airtime does it for me.
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Postby DeathbyDinn on June 12th, 2012, 4:43 pm
woohoodude11 wrote:The footprint indeed isn't, but clearance for the "swinging" motion is. I know its massive in comparison, but the "wingspan" of Windseeker I'd say is huge, and I would certainly assume that the clearance would have to greatly exceed the actual footprint of the ride. A spot like Trailblazers old location wouldn't work. If anything I'd like to see it replace Condor.


They would program it to fit the space. If one were to go in a smaller space like Trailblazers, it would probably have a program like the one in St. Louis which doesn't reach it's full swing until it's at the top of the tower. If clearance wasn't an issue, it could go like the SFDK one and reach it's full swing at the bottom and then go up the tower.
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Postby CoastsToCoasters on June 12th, 2012, 8:42 pm
The windseekers rise straight up with the seats steady. So a skyscreamer could do the same... if it went in trailblazers spot it wouldn't spin until it cleared the facade structures obviously if they kept them. ...which they couldn't actually its too small. Whatevs haha

I didn't know the SFDK did a full spin at the bottom. Are you sure? I'm going on YouTube haha
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Postby DeathbyDinn on June 12th, 2012, 9:56 pm
^ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QArxhSYOub4

That might not be it's usual program, but it still shows that the program can be changed to fit the rides surroundings.
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Postby FreezonEdgez on June 12th, 2012, 11:19 pm
gottastrata33 wrote:The windseekers rise straight up with the seats steady. So a skyscreamer could do the same... if it went in trailblazers spot it wouldn't spin until it cleared the facade structures obviously if they kept them. ...which they couldn't actually its too small. Whatevs haha

I didn't know the SFDK did a full spin at the bottom. Are you sure? I'm going on YouTube haha


Trailblazers spot is smaller than it looks; I've seen the diameter of a Sky Screamer at SFStL and it's not as small as you think it is.....You know how big Dare Devil Dive's platform is? Yeah.....it's close to that size.
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Postby Ilovthevu' on June 13th, 2012, 11:19 am
Trailblazer could fit the Sky Screamer, but they they would have to rework the line, and maybe even take the building down. The line could be on the left side. They have some dumb game around that area they could get rid of. Knowing Six Flags, I don't think they would want to spend that much money on construction though. I think Hometown Fun Machine is a higher possibility just for the fact that they don't open it as much as other rides. Besides water rides and the train, it's probably the least open ride.

I wish the ride they took out is Giant Drop. I just don't trust that ride ever since I heard of all these accidents on that exact model of ride. Sure, there was the main SFKK accident, but 2 other times I heard of snapping cables at other parks even though no one was thankfully on those rides at the times. When I actually rode that ride back before SFKK accident & the other ones, the line was very short. It's also a taller ride, and Sky Screamer would look good from the highway. Oh, what's that ride in the air...
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Postby woohoodude11 on June 14th, 2012, 8:31 am
Ilovthevu' wrote:Knowing Six Flags, I don't think they would want to spend that much money on construction though. I think Hometown Fun Machine is a higher possibility just for the fact that they don't open it as much as other rides.

I'm well aware the park built 2 mice right by each other, but I honestly can't see them putting 2 towers that close together.
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Postby stormalert123 on June 24th, 2012, 10:49 am
Why not have it were iron wolf uses to be
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Postby Jerrykoala2112 on June 24th, 2012, 1:50 pm
stormalert123 wrote:Why not have it were iron wolf uses to be


Because SFGAM is saving that spot for a bigger attraction. One could only hope!
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Postby ViperFTW on June 24th, 2012, 1:54 pm
stormalert123 wrote:Why not have it were iron wolf uses to be


Because if they did this, then that would limit the space for a possible 2014/2015 coaster. I think that would be a horrible place to put it. I mean, it is what is open, but they could make something a lot better that will bring in a lot of crowds there. Replacing a flat ride would be the better option. I propose to put it where King Chaos is. I don't know if there is that much room there, or if it is even slightly possible that this would happen, but the colors would look great for the Mardi Gras section, and King Chaos just hurts and needs to go. I would prefer no Sky Screamer though.
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Postby tribar on June 24th, 2012, 3:00 pm
stormalert123 wrote:Why not have it were iron wolf uses to be


Because like the previous two posters said that space would probably be used for a new attraction. I'd still say Yukon Territory is the best bet
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Postby Patch on June 25th, 2012, 12:35 pm
Im probably gonna get bashed for this idea, but eh, not much we can really confirm.

Picture this. They put a skyscreamer where condor is.

Condor yes of course is a excellent fun thrilling ride, but It'd be a good idea to have it near the front of the park. Why not? Yes, it would require more space, but condor is right next to the ladder game, which could easily be relocated. This is probably a stupid idea from my mind of other stupid ideas, but just throwing it out there.

This is just my idea, and galvan, your theory of Yukon is a great idea. Yukon is the ghost town of the park. The only slightly major attraction is loggers run, which attracts the GP during scorching hot days. If it was in Yukon, then there would be far more people there.

Of course, theres a perfectly clear area in IW's footprint, but that'd still be the perfect location for a new coaster possibly in 2014.

SFGAm is lacking flat rides in my opinion. The main thrilling ones are Giant Drop and King Chaos. It'd be cool to add a skyscreamer to the park.
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Postby DeathbyDinn on June 25th, 2012, 1:04 pm
Patch wrote:SFGAm is lacking flat rides in my opinion. The main thrilling ones are Giant Drop and King Chaos. It'd be cool to add a skyscreamer to the park.


Tell that to Great Adventure or Magic Mountain. Something that Great America is known for is having the one of,or possibly the best and most rounded out collection of flats.
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Postby Galvan on June 25th, 2012, 1:52 pm
What other flats could SFGAm possibly add other then a skyscreamer?

We've got: Tea Cups (actually 2 of them) We've got a Drop Tower, Top Spin, Scrambler, Trokia, Bumper Cars, Whirligig, Fiddler's Fling, River Rocker, Frisbee, Ricochet, Sky Trek.

Im probably missing a few but never the less, there really isnt anything that SFGAm DOESNT have besides a SkyScreamer, and even then that would be adding something that we pretty much already have in Whirligig.
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Postby FParker185 on June 25th, 2012, 5:01 pm
We have no Bobs or Himilaya type of ride. Haybaler was an ancient bob's ride that had a horrible location, but of course it's gone now.

SFGAm also has no Tilt a Whirl. Then i could come up with a list of probably 20-30 different types of modern European rides that SFGAm lacks, but the most modern flat rides at SFGAm date from the mid 80's with the Top Spin and Frisbee. Though if you really want to count it since it's not in a kids area, the Rockin Tug is like Y2K technology.
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Postby rb1 on June 25th, 2012, 6:57 pm
Flat rides are good but I think if we ever get a Sky Screamer theyll probly get rid of Giant Drop and put it in that spot since its not really a popular ride and with what happen in Kentucky people still thinks its unsafe theyl probly use the same theming and que just take it down piece by piece and put in the Skyscreamer in the same spot. Six Flags is really unpredictable who knows maybe another coaster next year and make a suprize announcement this July or August.
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Postby Ilovthevu' on June 26th, 2012, 10:11 am
FParker185 wrote:We have no Bobs or Himilaya type of ride. Haybaler was an ancient bob's ride that had a horrible location, but of course it's gone now.

SFGAm also has no Tilt a Whirl. Then i could come up with a list of probably 20-30 different types of modern European rides that SFGAm lacks, but the most modern flat rides at SFGAm date from the mid 80's with the Top Spin and Frisbee. Though if you really want to count it since it's not in a kids area, the Rockin Tug is like Y2K technology.


Yeah, there are a ton of rides the park doesn't have. The park probably has the most Huss rides out of a park, but there are a lot of other flat rides they could put in like Eyerly Spider, Chance Wipeout, Zamperla Power Surge or Shocker, Zamperla Disko, KMG Afterburner, Tivoli Orbiter, Tivoli Force 10, we don't have a 1001 Nachts ride anymore (Used to have Trailblazer, but that ride was removed), or you can get a Chance Falling Star (even though they aren't made anymore - Thus, have to find a used one.), a Wisdom Genesis or Wisdom Gee Whiz, etc. I can go on and on - KMG Tango.

The way the Orbit is, I wonder if that ride could even be transported. Sure, I know that it doesn't have a truck underneath or anything, but it just looks like it's able to be locked up to be transported.

And if anyone says that some of these are only carnival rides, well the park has Condor which is clearly a carnival ride, and no one even notices / realizes it. They sort of hid the fact by adding concrete lines, and stairs to it. This isn't SFGAm's Condor, but here you can see one for sale, and it says "Huss Condor center trailer mounted" (which means it's on a truck) http://www.italintl.com/detail_page.php?record_id=1617

I also have seen rides like the Whirligig at carnivals - bigger fairs. Ragin Cajun, I have seen at carnivals - Ohio State Fair in particular.
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