So the activity area = kiddie pool.... the slide is probably a 40 foor tall (maybe a little taller) straight near vertical drop slide (one with a trap door release would be OK) plus the surfing things.... Add this together you get $100,000 in improvements, and we lose the SSA area and possibly the go-kart area. If they ruin the SWF area we're in trouble as that would be a guarantee that whizzer, wolf, or demon will fall within the next 3-5 years.... I completely and totally understand this may be a minor bump to the water park, and a few people may like it... but this doesn't draw people to SFGAM/HH, doesn't move people, and really hurts the possibility of expanding HH OR getting a new ride into the theme park.... I would consider this win win if this was all "free" because it had already been purchased to be installed in SFKK, but it really does make a problem for future expansion in both HH and GAM....
On the up side, IF the park is surveying the SWF area for a coaster... this COULD mean they are planning on building a custom coaster there in 2012/2013... down side MAY be a removal of demon, but this is not guaranteed as a custom coaster could be designed to fit in the available space in that area.
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SFGAm announces Rip Tide Bay
^ pretty much how I feel.
By getting this "completion" of Hurricane Harbor over with now, we wont have to be disappointed further down the line. Hopefully this means the dry park can see some additions for the next two or three years whether it be a new coaster or some decent flats. (Both of which I see coming anyways.)
Glad this helps the water park out and hopefully it means the end of water park and water ride expansions for a little while. If anyone still had thoughts we were getting a coaster with the Chang cancellation, they were bound to be upset. No way the park would be able to set something like that up at the last second. Maybe this means we will get one in 2012 who knows. What I do know is that crews were doing surveys in the old Splashwater Falls area, where this expansion obviously will not be going. Hope for 2012 and hey, if you haven't already, travel around to the other parks in the area and check their coasters out. There are quite a few rides within a 6-7 hour drive of SFGAm that are well worth it.
^^As long as Webber is running the show, I don't see us getting anything that costs more than about 8 million, whether that be this year or 5 years down the road. So I believe there will still be plenty of disappointments ahead. We won't run out of them!
When I stopped at Kings Island earlier this year, it was because of the Cedar Fair additions and not the Paramount ones. It's a nice place, but there was nothing he put in that made me say wow, I have to ride that.
A park can get a pretty good wooden coaster for that. The Voyage was 8.5 mil. Mean Streak was 7.5 mil. While many people don't like Mean Streak because of the poor ride quality, it's still a good layout. If a company (probably GG) can do it right, then a really good coaster can be made for around that cost. 
True, but many woods haven't shown they can hold up over time and need regular reworking. Which could leave us with more rides that provide a Mean Streak like experience. When I head to Kings Dominion this fall, it's not because of their 4 wood collection, but rather because of the Cedar Fair attractions I-305 and Dominator.
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To be honest, I couldn't tell you because I don't remember that slide very well. Sorry.
^It's okay if you don't remember. I wonder if anyone else has been to Raging Waves, and ridden that ride on here.
For the new additions, I'm not excited for really any of it unless the nearly vertical slide would be a tube slide like Double Dipper at Blizzard Beach. http://www.wdwinfo.com/Photos/Blizzard- ... C00004.jpg The bottom part is nearly vertical. This slide though I think is going to be a body slide. What I really wanted for the water park is a WATER coaster (This isn't a real roller coaster that would cost 10 million by the way). Disney - Typhoon Lagoon, Noah's Ark, Magic Waters, and Schlitterbahn all have them, and those parks are highly attended (Well, Magic Waters isn't that highly attended, but the rest are.) I like the one at Magic Waters (That's the one I have been on), and they sent me a survey of what your favorite attraction is, and the most popular one at Magic Waters is that Water Coaster (Splash Blaster), so I think Six Flags is missing out by not getting one as an expansion. "I've been staring at the world, waiting. All the trouble and all the pain we're facing. Too much light to be livin' in the dark. Why waste time? We only got one life. Together we can be the CHANGE. So go and let your heart burn bright"
I think this is awful news!!!!
This is room that was part of the main park and should have remained so!!!! The water park is bigger than it needs to be with its reduced operating schedule(this addition will sure help with park capacity during FF or the many other hours of the operating season when the water park is closed). And making the water park bigger is no certainty that it will add any revenue to the parks bottom line for future additions to the main park, and there is nothing stated that the park wont take away more land in the future to make the water park bigger. If they wanted a water park they should have used the land on the other side of the free way that they could have used years ago for a separate entry park like CP has with soak city. Not getting Chang was a minor disappointment, but not that big a deal, this is FAR worse as we lose more land that could be used for additions to the main part of the park. I would much prefer the land stay vacant another year and be used for future development of the main park than have this land lost to the water park.
^The thing is though that we have Splash Water Falls area which is a vacant area. We have Trailblazer for a flat. We have Wilderness Theater if they ever decide to do anything with that. Pictorium isn't doing too good in my opinion, and they could get rid of that. Southwest Ampitheater is barely open except for concerts.
Iron Wolf could go because it doesn't fill up the lines to it's potential. Demon could go for the same reason even though it's Mariott blah blah. And to say that either of these 2 rides to go, you might think well I hate them. Wrong, I do go on Iron Wolf, and I do go on Demon. I go on Demon a lot more though! For the rides I barely ever go on, and complain about getting rid of them they would something like Ragin Cajun or Eagle, but I'm NOT saying that those should go! For older attractions, what happens is that newer stuff that comes that is "greater" and "better", and people will be in those lines, and wait a much longer time because they like those rides better. For Cedar Point, I like Gemini a lot, but does anyone talk about that there. No, it's Maverick, Millenium Force, Top Thrill, and Magnum. The thing is old stuff gets less popular overtime because it's been there for so long. If Gemini was gone, I would be mad, but I understand that it hasn't gotten less and less popular because it's such an old ride. The people that say to save old rides, I hope they aren't hyprocites. So, you love Demon because it's so old, but are you going on Raging Bull 5 times, and going on Demon 1 time? I guess the thing is though that we can't be Cedar Point. What I mean by that is that for the most part, Cedar Point keeps old roller coasters, and builds new roller coasters in other spots. Is it because they are trying to keep the record or not, but Great America doesn't seem as big to me as Cedar Point to keep all of these roller coasters like Cedar Point can. Eventually roller coasters we have, have to go to get new ones unless they start getting rid of flats one by one. And to me, they can't keep on expanding into the parking lot because on really packed days, there isn't going to be anywhere to park for everyone, and they will lose money if they turn away people. "I've been staring at the world, waiting. All the trouble and all the pain we're facing. Too much light to be livin' in the dark. Why waste time? We only got one life. Together we can be the CHANGE. So go and let your heart burn bright"
I think a lot of people on here need to remember and realize we got the freaking little dipper last min this year.
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It seems to me that this park is being run like a rudderless ship. There is no long term plan, no strategy, no clue about what would benefit the park the most. It's like they just scrape together whatever pocket change they can and buy a little something with it. Like when a kid gets an allowance from his parents (corporate) and has to spend it on candy. They can't even get their facts straight with announcing SFOG's new ride. They had months to research it and can't get it right. And they feed us this "best waterpark in the nation" award they bestowed upon themselves with no validity. Last edited by BLADE on September 2nd, 2010, 2:27 pm, edited 4 times in total.
I agree 100% with you Bob. Glad to see someone else share my point of view.
If they get anything like this, it's all good boys and girls.
 I finally retired the Sarah Palin signature because she is now 100% irrelevant.
If you don't like what the park is doing don't go back to the park next year. The $70 they get from you every season will not hurt them in the long run. All the people that are complaining on here and Facebook just show them you don't like the addition by not coming to the park.
The hundred-or-so people they lose will hurt (a-little) but the thousand that complain that the Waterpark is full almost everyday of the summer will be happy that they can enter the Waterpark because of the expansion. For the 50 days the water park isn't open there is either low attendance (May) or it is Frightfest where there will be crowds anyway and another coaster will only put a small dent in it. Plus during fright fest they have the haunted attractions to help. So they must have thought that the Waterpark was in a much more dire need to expand at this point.
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I know I won't get my hopes up that much for tube slides like Double Dipper Blizzard Beach slides that are nearly vertical, but it does in the email I just got say "Thrilling waterslide(S)". Though, I think it could be just the New Jersey Hurricane Harbor slide complex, or the Raging Waves complex which are basically the same type of thing with one vertical body slide, and 2 not vertical body slides that twist around it.
This is the near vertical slides and other body slides at New Jersey Hurricane Harbor (separate park from Great Adventure). http://lh4.ggpht.com/_o7ks0CBl8B8/SKb_W ... 111047.JPG "I've been staring at the world, waiting. All the trouble and all the pain we're facing. Too much light to be livin' in the dark. Why waste time? We only got one life. Together we can be the CHANGE. So go and let your heart burn bright"
At the Kalahari I waited 45 minutes to ride the surt simulator there, and right when i dipped down on the boggie board, i fell over.... I waited a whole 3/4 of an hour just to fall off a board...
^What sucks about the place there is the good surfers get 2-3 tries.
Yup!!! I cant surf good at all and i just rode it for the fun of it, just to try it out, and then these cocky kids came up and seriously got to skip the whole line because the were "regulars". I know almost for sure that this surf simulator will NOT help HH capacity at all, lets just hope the activity pool will be large and make for more guest's.
In any case, where would they put a new Giga or COASTER for that matter? We all know the kind of coaster we want would NO WAY fight in SWF area. AND of course we all know that if we took out a ride like Whizzer or Demon or Iron Wolf, there would be SOME sort of outrage (yes, people DO like IW). AND we all know that Six Flags is up to 2x their height in debt. Must I go on? Basically, I wouldn't get my hopes up for a new coaster until at least the 55th or 60th anniversary (or until Six Flags is out of debt). Just be happy with the new addition and find something good about it. Less lines, another water ride, there IS something good in it.
 reallly????? YES  have a good day!  Last Visit, American Eagle BACKWARDS 5 times in a row right before the park closed. I cannot WAIT to go back for Fright Fest!
I would say SFGAm will actually get a great, and when i say great, i mean GREAT new coaster sometime in the next 5-10 years.
Way to go out on a limb there. Gee, that will only make 12-17 years between major coasters. IF we have to wait 5 more years, it better be for project tumbleweed.
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