Great America's Best And Worst Ideas

[FParker185]

$300 will just barely buy you/the park one upstop wheel for Demon. Let alone any track replacement.

They got new trains in the late 80's, and the back car of the black train is only around 12 years old for obvious reasons.

And you can't just take track from another Arrow and slap it on Demon, that's just retarded. Even CGA Demon differs from our Demon in several places. And the park can't just go down just south of the border to Crazy Pedro's Track Emporium and buy a few new pieces for Demon. They'd have to contact S&S who'd have to look up the blueprints/CAD info in Arrow's files, probably not find it then have to call Huss(Who owned Arrow when Demon was built) for it who will supply the info which they will do at some absurd price. After that it has to be fabricated, and that's not cheap when you start rolling out complex curves.

Bottom line is when the ridership drop's below the point of it being worth it to maintain, it will be history.

[onyxhotel08]

For the HH expansion talk, we have rides such as Tornado that other parks still do not have. No point in expanding Hurricane Harbor when it is already pretty big and packed with a good amount of attractions for the kids AND adults. Would an extra slide or whatever REALLY make it that much better?

[david]

Wow. I hope you know that re-fabrication of track isn't as hard as you make it. S&S owns Arrow, and anything that Arrow had, blueprints etc., will come over to S&S. For arrow's coasters almost all of them, non inverted, are using the same track design. It really isn't that hard to know. If SF wanted to, they could re fabricate the track themselves, and not talk to S&S at all!

[vprlvr456]

Ok, does anyone remember when Sharpiro said he loves the Demon and would to preserve it?

[david]

^ Shapiro Grew up in Chicago, I never said he loves the demon.

[FParker185]

I'll just say new track fabrication is a hell of a lot harder than you think it is.

[Cole]

Demon is fine. I would rather just have new trains or have the money go somewhere else.

[BP317]

Problems can be fixed pretty quick and cheap to keep the ride running but duct tape only works for so long on a 30+ year old Arrow before problems actually have to be fixed . But Demon is still a pretty popular ride and taking into consideration all the cosmetic work they have put into the trains (which look amazing, Major props to the painters there) shows they are committed to keeping it running.

[onyxhotel08]

It is not a bad ride just one that cannot keep going for another 10 years. I would cry over Whizzer but just say "It was time" for Demon.

[Jcoaster95]

^Same with me.

[david]

So, a 30+ Year old Shwarzkopf that shouldn't have made it past 25 is better than a 30+ year old looper and corckscrew? You're out of your mind.

Without The Demon, and perhaps Chang, we would have TWO, TWO coasters that invert.

[Cole]

So, a 30+ Year old Shwarzkopf that shouldn't have made it past 25 is better than a 30+ year old looper and corckscrew? You're out of your mind.

Yes you are 100% correct, we need Demon. I really doubt Whizzer will be going soon, but i'd rather see it go then Demon.

Without The Demon, and perhaps Chang, we would have TWO, TWO coasters that invert.

Yes and one of those coasters is S:UF.... meh..

[david]

S:UF isn't even an inversion. It is just kinda there to look like one. The pretzel loop is just a loop backwards.

[FParker185]

The Pretzel takes you completely upsidedown, which I would say is an inversion. Heartline at the end is questionable though.

There are major parks out there that have no inversions at all, Kennywood and Holiday World are prime examples.

[david]

But the pvetzel (Pun intended) doesn't take you head over heels.

[Cole]

^^^it somewhat does

[onyxhotel08]

The best thing to happen to Great America since Deja Vu in 2001 was 2003 when Superman opened and the pretzel loop was installed.

[david]

I would have to argue. The Pretzel is just a G-Machine. (If that exists!)

I think that the best thing to happen to the park since 2000 is the installment of v2. The park was clearly lacking a launch coaster.

[onyxhotel08]

Since 1999:

Bull
Deja Vu ( )
Superman pretzel
mardi Gras
Hurricane Harbor
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[Cole]

I hate Mardi Gras.
One of the worst investments the parks made besides Deja Vu and Dark Knight

[vprlvr456]

I forget, what was Mardi Gras before 2004? I blanked out.

[Cole]

I forget, what was Mardi Gras before 2004? I blanked out.

No for the 2004 season.

[Chitown]

Before 2004, it was a part of Orlean's Place.

And how was Mardi Gras a bad investment? Before that it was a dead zone. Now it's livened up with 4 new rides.

[monsterfan99]

^Easily one of the best areas in the park theme wise as well.

[onyxhotel08]

Mardi Gras rocks and we needed those 4 rides...Bad idea? Not advertising "get your last rides on Deja Vu!" before it was confirmed to leave at like the final day in October 2007.