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Postby FParker185 on December 28th, 2009, 2:10 am
Usually SFGAm sends a whole team of people including the PR lady (who's name I cant remember for some reason), a person or 2 from operations and usually the GM. In the distant past the GM would stand off to the side and observe and basically run out to start the car in the last few mins of the presentation so they don't have to waste a second getting out of there. After Jim Wintrode though the GM's seem to be more open to speaking. However if something isn't official or they don't get an ok from Corporate to speak about stuff (Chang) they will refrain from comment or give the same spiel that Shapiro gave in the shareholder conference how that Chang has been removed from SFKK and will be sent to another Six Flags Property in 2011.

They do still however for the most part show up 5-10 mins before their presentation and they are out the door immediately after they present. They don't hang around.
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Postby david on December 28th, 2009, 12:38 pm
^ So If the CHANG question arises, will they just totally discredit it, or will they say, "It's all a part of the master plan!" as Shapiro commonly does. :roll:
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Postby traincrossing9 on December 28th, 2009, 2:06 pm
^They have a plan? I thought they were making it up as they go. :wink:
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Postby tp41190 on December 28th, 2009, 2:30 pm
Last years No Coaster Con sucked....however the Schliterbahn after party was great!
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Postby monsterfan99 on December 28th, 2009, 2:42 pm
traincrossing9 wrote:^They have a plan? I thought they were making it up as they go. :wink:

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Postby david on December 28th, 2009, 4:35 pm
http://www.themeparkreview.com/forum/vi ... 06f990113#

Listen to that and tell me how many times he mentions Previous Management, and the "master plan".
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Postby FParker185 on December 28th, 2009, 5:33 pm
They will say what I've said twice before in this thread.

Either

A. We have no comment at this time.

or

B. Chang has been removed from SFKK and will appear at another Six Flags property in 2011.

It's not that hard of a concept to understand. They are a company with a set of rules and stockholders to answer to. They will not break those rules for you nor anyone else at NCC. They will say exactly what corporate tells them to say, nothing more. If they are hounded repeatedly about it, they will simply pack up and leave early.
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Postby david on December 28th, 2009, 5:44 pm
QQ: Will there be new Karaoke music next year? Does anyone know who's performing at the concert series?
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Postby sfgamfan717 on December 28th, 2009, 6:19 pm
I have a question that I have been wondering about for a while. What is the difference between
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Postby DejaVu2001 on December 28th, 2009, 6:22 pm
^ The first example is friction brakes, the second example is magnetic brakes.
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Postby sfgamfan717 on December 28th, 2009, 6:27 pm
That's what I thought. Thank you! :D
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Postby FParker185 on December 28th, 2009, 8:12 pm
Yep, B&M magnetic brakes consist of 2 horizontal aluminum fins mounted at the top of the block on the center of the train that the regular brakes grab. The regular brakes work as normal. That's why those magnets are mounted so high. This system debuted on Nitro at SFGAdv.

My question on this system is why are trim brakes normal friction brakes rather than the much simpler magnetic brakes. With magnets you don't need any wiring for sensors, pneumatics or anything. Also the air gap can be set to always have the train leave the brake at the same speed, and if the train is going to slow it doesn't apply any braking at all. The friction brakes do the same thing, but they need pneumatics and a bunch of sensors to see how fast the train is going, then the computer has to determine how much braking to apply to get the train down to the specified speed. Seems to much easier especially on rides like Diamondback, Nitro and Intimidator amongst other B&M Hypers where you have trims literally 1000+ feet away from the station/control rooms.
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Postby david on December 28th, 2009, 8:17 pm
Am I mistaken, or did Giovanola original design these?

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_X25UO3xK89Q/S ... G_7424.jpg

In that picture, What are those metal pieces behind the fence?
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Postby Goku1910 on December 28th, 2009, 10:24 pm
david wrote:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_X25UO3xK89Q/S ... G_7424.jpg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

In that picture, What are those metal pieces behind the fence?


They look like railing pieces.
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Postby david on December 28th, 2009, 11:23 pm
Aren't the railings in a cylinder? Why are these boxy? At first I thought they were from The Edge! maybe something left from Gulf Coaster?
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Postby Goku1910 on December 28th, 2009, 11:30 pm
david wrote:Aren't the railings in a cylinder? Why are these boxy? At first I thought they were from The Edge! maybe something left from Gulf Coaster?


Are you referring to the objects behind the Number 82 sign? Because those look like queue rails...unless you're asking about something different.
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Postby david on December 29th, 2009, 12:44 am
Indeed I am, but which ride had squared railings?

http://media.photobucket.com/image/queu ... 010109.jpg

Most rails look like that, am I right?
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Postby RagingBullFan on December 29th, 2009, 12:45 am
Those are the remains of the SWF queue rails, I should know I helped put them there... (Queue rails are such a pain...)
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Postby david on December 29th, 2009, 12:48 am
They were squared? That's weird! But cool at the same time. Our park really should do a "museum" like at MM.
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Postby Goku1910 on December 29th, 2009, 1:33 am
by zooming in on the picture, you can determine that those rails are not square. :lol:
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Postby david on December 29th, 2009, 2:19 am
I did zoom, Now I can kinda tell there is a bit of circularity.

Did anyone here work on or ride Gulf Coaster? I've been so curious about it. Did the park keep ANY of it?
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Postby FParker185 on December 29th, 2009, 5:14 pm
Gulf Coaster lasted for less than one season before it was scrapped.

Also for NoCoaster, Brooke Gabbert's last day at the park was Dec 18 and no one apparantly has been hired yet. I have to guess seeing as they are getting little dipper, they wont ditch NCC entirely. It will be interesting to see what they come up with :)

If anyone is qualified and interested, or know someone who is. You or your friend can get a job where you are extremely overworked and underpaid with no appreciation what so ever. And on top of that you have to wrangle people similar to those who appear on these boards...

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Postby david on December 30th, 2009, 1:39 am
Will the park be holding another, "Look-a-Like Mr. six" contest this year? If So,expect me to be there. AND WIN! Just gotta shave my head, and get the glasses!
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Postby BP317 on December 30th, 2009, 9:15 am
Also for NoCoaster, Brooke Gabbert's last day at the park was Dec 18 and no one apparantly has been hired yet. I have to guess seeing as they are getting little dipper, they wont ditch NCC entirely. It will be interesting to see what they come up with

I remember one of the old PR people leaving SFGAm in favor of Keylime Cove...which certainly says something about the payscale . I think Jim Taylor did a great job making a connection with the parks fans using the podcast and even posting on our boards.
Dont know what hapenned to him but some former SFGAm execs have done really well for themselves. Ron Sevart is now the CEO of the Space Needle in Seattle and Tim Black left SFGAm after less than one season and is the VP of Operations now for Great Wolf Resorts.

Also at NCC 2003 SFGAm's reps showed up wearing Superman capes but refused to acknowledge anything about the ride as it wasnt announced yet.
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Postby FParker185 on December 30th, 2009, 10:10 am
Well Tim Black got a bad deal from SF. After being at SFGAm for about a season and liking it, corporate moved him to SFGAdv, before he could even show up there he quit and went to Great Wolf. Pretty cool with Ron Sevart, he seemed like a good guy, to bad Fun Forrest at the base of the Space Needle is now gone.
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