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Postby SFaddiction84 on October 20th, 2008, 6:55 pm
To shorten this topic, I believe Six Flags INC should run each store like a FRANCHISE supermarket. Do not per say sell each park to an individual operator, just hire PARK Operator's for each park. Each park will have access to the Six Flags name, Access to the Hurricane Harbor name if they choose, and The Brands of things currently there, however, give them more control. Im sure we all know how a franchise store is run.

They get the Name and buy product from the corporate office, but have 95% control over the store itself (The other 5% would be the Name of the store, and the warehouse/majority product selection). Pay a Franchise FEE each year to have the NAME, and buy the product from the warehouse, they hire there own employee's have there own uniforms, build there stores and arrange them how ever they want, and also bring in other product that the Warehouse/Corporate stores cant get. They essentially run the stores there own way, with someone elses NAME!

Maybe Six Flags could do this, Hire a Operator to run the parks, give them the Six Flags Name and access to all things SIX FLAGS, but give that Operator 80% of the POWER, letting this person run the park locally, ride selection, shop selection, restaurant selection, theme selection, majority PRICING for the park.

Right now its 1 guy, sitting at a desk, running parks in all kinds of regions, price environments and saying. Ok 4 parks get Thomas Town, lets build 4 deja vu rides, all parks will have these SAME parades, Same shows.

How Boring. Let the operator see what his area is like, lower or higher the prices, let the parks higher there own employee's build there own shows, retheme there own area's give them guidance but let them decide there own ride selection.

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Postby FParker185 on October 20th, 2008, 7:42 pm
That's what they are in the process of doing now overseas with Six Flags Daubailand (along with at least 2 others in development)
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Postby SFaddiction84 on October 20th, 2008, 8:01 pm
Maybe they should consider that here, i mean its not like the Six Flags Name would disappear, i think 1 guy running how ever many parks is like having class rooms at school with 30 kids per class. Kids need close attention, and i think each park needs its own team of Attention. imagine 1 school for a city of 40,000, thats a big school where no kid can have close personal attention.

I just think it would be a good idea
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Postby Ilovthevu' on October 21st, 2008, 1:18 pm
I kind of feel they are that way now. You are talking about ride selection while I'm thinking about how management is running these parks. You go to Six Flags America, and they have tons of rides low-staffed, and broke. You go Six Flags Great America in the same week, and its' almost perfect. I heard that if you go Six Flags Great Adventure, they won't let you reride rides, while at other Six Flags parks like ours you can when no one is in line.

At Six Flags Magic Mountain, and Six Flags America, you see people talking on the phone, or having another portable device in their hands, while at Six Flags Great America, and Six Flags Over Texas, I see nothing in their hands.

When I went Six Flags Over Georgia, they say we have to close the lines of the park 15 minutes before they are supposed to close whereas other Six Flags parks aren't like that. Another time, an employee at Six Flags Over Georgia asks for the time, and we better close the line now even though it was 5 minutes early.

How many one train rides can you have at Six Flags Over Georgia, while Six Flags St. Louis has every ride 2 trains?
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So, buy more trains than they can handle when they buy the ride? Duh. For this Terminator ride, buy 3 even if it can't handle 3. Buy 4 if it can handle 3. I know they cost more money, but an extra train just for rehab is a great idea so people don't go to the park waiting forever for one ride.
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I wish Six Flags all over the country would all act the same as in that stuff I talked about above. I'm okay with Six Flags parks having similar rides as they are great. I wouldn't want to go to every Six Flags park anyway because that would be a lot of money. My favorite Six Flags parks are Six Flags Great America, Six Flags Magic Mountain, Six Flags Over Texas, Six Flags Over Georgia, and Six Flags St. Louis.
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Postby BP317 on October 21st, 2008, 1:28 pm
Pet-Peeve of mine: When you are a park that is barely closed like Six Flags Magic Mountain, why not buy more trains than you can handle for rides? I think that Batman the Ride at that park should have 3 trains. Why? It's not so they can be used at one time, but the thing is that they need to refurb them, and thus when one is gone, you are left with one which makes guests angry they have to wait so long.


Parks that are generally busy do this. Ive been in line for Montu before when it was running 3 trains and one was sitting on the storage tracks. Parks like Six Flags and Knotts dont do this because there are periods of the year where the park is totally dead and they can easily get away with 1 train ops and still be sending half empty trains. Plus Six Flags is closed on weekdays during winter.
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Postby Coastermonkey61 on October 21st, 2008, 2:54 pm
With the Batman and three trains thing, I'm not sure it will be able to handle three trains with how quick the ride is and how compact it is.
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Postby bobbinbop20 on October 21st, 2008, 3:37 pm
Coastermonkey61 wrote:With the Batman and three trains thing, I'm not sure it will be able to handle three trains with how quick the ride is and how compact it is.


i think he means have an extra train in case something goes wrong with the other 2, not that you need to be running 3 trains at once
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Postby SFaddiction84 on October 22nd, 2008, 6:27 am
Six Flags Closed at $.31 Yesterday on the Stock Exchange! :( How Sad!

There actually in threat to being dropped from the stock exchange and will be forced to become private. If you publicly trade for less then $1 for so long, you are forced off public trade, or they might just bottom out at $.00 at the way they are going....

I actively watch this stock, and it seems to hover lower then $.50
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Postby Ilovthevu' on October 22nd, 2008, 3:51 pm
^^I meant three trains so when one goes down for refurb like at Magic Mountain, they would always have 2 running. A common complaint at Magic Mountain was that they didn't have all the trains running even in June while the lines were still long. This was before. They supposedly improved that park somehow. Our park is only open for so long, and than during the off-season, they refurb.

Magic Mountain is a year round park along with other parks. How does Disney not make people mad? They have so many trains, and vehicles for all their rides. They rehab stuff over a certain amount of years to fix stuff like the track, and other stuff, but they have 5 trains alone on Big Thunder Mountain Railroad.

For bad attendance during winter months in California, I think it has to do with poor advertising, and you also have the kids in school, but it's only open on weekends anyway. I'm not sure about the advertising because I don't live there, but I doubt they do much about it during those months of limited operation. Heck, it could even be because of rides not running because of refurbs on trains like Deja Vu, or their Superman which is boring as heck. With no one buying SFOG's Deja Vu, I say send that one over to SFMM for a refurb train for the time being at least.
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