Why has no Single Rider line been implemented?

[wishman35]

It is always puzzling to me why on certain rides at GAm that if there are 2 open seats, or one open seat that you cannot just re-ride the ride.

Now before you go and say that its not fair to other riders...why is it not? Among the hustle and bustle of the gates opening and riders filing out, one person jumping on where there is one empty seat left will not anger any body in a group of 2,3, or 4 obviously?

Some rides never have problems with it, American Eagle is the best example, they never have problems with me staying on, they almost welcome it. BUT if you ask any employee on Raging Bull to stay on the ride they look at you like your crazy. They are almost mean sounding, they dont have to be so crude about it. Its adding to there rider benchmarks for the hour if i stay on and go and swing the turnstile rather then having empty seats.

This just makes me wonder, why do they not have a single rider line? Has anyone ever brought up the suggestion to someone who is big at the park? It is not like there are tons of single riders, so it wouldn't overwhelm them, but help raise the numbers a bit and fill in seats, not to mention offer a bonus to those of us experiencing a unsocial (yet relaxing, and do everything how we want) day.

Anyone who goes solo occasionally want one?

Rides that i have no problem with re-rides- AE, Demon, Superman (occasionally)
Rides that ive been told no- Raging Bull, Batman.

[BP317]

Ride ops at American Eagle typically dont get large crowds and are used to letting people re-ride, whereas a ride like Raging Bull the ride ops are used to having a large line and having it be unfair to people waiting in line if certain people can ride over and over again. Also if they are caught giving re-rides to someone while there is a line they can get in serious trouble for perhaps letting their friends ride without waiting in line, that would be a big deal if it were to show up in one of their audit films.

SFGAm doesnt have single rider lines because they do not want to eat any costs involved with it, the parks not designed with ramps for single riders, or even Flashpass and guests with disabilities. The ramps are just simple entrance/exits and they try to squeeze everything in there, Six Flags approves a certain amount of money for upkeep (painting, repairs, etc) and they dont approve enough to install new ramps or make adjustments to the queues. Its something they always say they're "looking into" as well as adding Flashpass to Ragin Cajun, DejaVu, and Demon...they've been "looking into" that every preseason for years and I wouldnt expect it to become a reality anytime soon.

[wishman35]

Ride ops at American Eagle typically dont get large crowds and are used to letting people re-ride, whereas a ride like Raging Bull the ride ops are used to having a large line and having it be unfair to people waiting in line if certain people can ride over and over again. Also if they are caught giving re-rides to someone while there is a line they can get in serious trouble for perhaps letting their friends ride without waiting in line, that would be a big deal if it were to show up in one of their audit films.

SFGAm doesnt have single rider lines because they do not want to eat any costs involved with it, the parks not designed with ramps for single riders, or even Flashpass and guests with disabilities. The ramps are just simple entrance/exits and they try to squeeze everything in there, Six Flags approves a certain amount of money for upkeep (painting, repairs, etc) and they dont approve enough to install new ramps or make adjustments to the queues. Its something they always say they're "looking into" as well as adding Flashpass to Ragin Cajun, DejaVu, and Demon...they've been "looking into" that every preseason for years and I wouldnt expect it to become a reality anytime soon.

thanks for that insight. but could it be possible to just use the exit line to allow some single riders? Like Bull always has people standing around or allowing special riders through the exit. It would turn the stile and they could file scattered singles in the empty seats. Its really just Bull that i wish would lessen their strictness on it.

Flash pass for Rajun Cajun or Demon? haha... i would hope to GOD that they approve FlashPass for Viper and Eagle way before either Cajun or Demon. Cajun is fun but a kid ride, and Demon 90% of the time never has a line and would be a waist of labor.

[zmorris]

If the single rider line was for their own row, if thats what you're saying, then yes it would be nice...but if it was just a line that they could go in any row they wanted it would be dumb. There's nothing worse to ruin a ride when you have 3 people in the seats then they call out an open seat or some random person hops in. Ruins the whole ride...

[wishman35]

If the single rider line was for their own row, if thats what you're saying, then yes it would be nice...but if it was just a line that they could go in any row they wanted it would be dumb. There's nothing worse to ruin a ride when you have 3 people in the seats then they call out an open seat or some random person hops in. Ruins the whole ride...

How does having one random person in a seat ruin the actual ride itself? I am not trying to be brash, but even when im with some girls its not like im interacting with them on the rides, or have them to enhance my experience. In fact having a random person generally is fun since you get to see someone new's reaction or talk to someone new.

I would hope thats not a reason for single riders to be able to be scattered around. The seats were meant to be filled, not to have groups of 2 then a group of 4 right behind them. ive seen trains go half empty for this reason on busy days

[BP317]

Flash pass for Rajun Cajun or Demon? haha... i would hope to GOD that they approve FlashPass for Viper and Eagle way before either Cajun or Demon

As I said before they are unwilling to spend on building new ramps which is why Eagle doesnt have it. Demon and Ragin Cajun both have paths right next to the queue lines which would make it cheap to install.
in my opinion all the coasters and major flats should be Flashpass accesible, I can understand having a limited amount back when Fastlane was $7 or $8 but with the outrageous cost for a qbot theres no reason to not have it at all the coasters...one mans opinion.

I am not trying to be brash, but even when im with some girls its not like im interacting with them on the rides, or have them to enhance my experience.

Clearly youve never been to LaRonde

[wishman35]

Flash pass for Rajun Cajun or Demon? haha... i would hope to GOD that they approve FlashPass for Viper and Eagle way before either Cajun or Demon

As I said before they are unwilling to spend on building new ramps which is why Eagle doesnt have it. Demon and Ragin Cajun both have paths right next to the queue lines which would make it cheap to install.
in my opinion all the coasters and major flats should be Flashpass accesible, I can understand having a limited amount back when Fastlane was $7 or $8 but with the outrageous cost for a qbot theres no reason to not have it at all the coasters...one mans opinion.

I am not trying to be brash, but even when im with some girls its not like im interacting with them on the rides, or have them to enhance my experience.

Clearly youve never been to LaRonde

Well you have stumped me on Viper and AE... AE's exit could be used but that would just cause problems and Viper has the most claustrophobic exit line possible. I feel like im on a one way street stuck behind slow people

[Jackluver18]

^ I know that feeling, went a couple Thursday's ago and this large group of people were walking so slow oh my gosh seriously get out of the way if you're going to walk that slow. Anyways on topic again, I've been coming to the park mostly alone and it doesn't bother me about the single rider line but that's just me

[wishman35]

^ I know that feeling, went a couple Thursday's ago and this large group of people were walking so slow oh my gosh seriously get out of the way if you're going to walk that slow. Anyways on topic again, I've been coming to the park mostly alone and it doesn't bother me about the single rider line but that's just me

well it doesn't bother me as much as it may seem, but it would certainly be nice if as a bonus of going solo that we could hit up a 2nd ride on Bull if there is open single seats.

I am limited to Saturday's due to work, so I am contending with some of the bigger crowds. I went yesterday and not only was there a 90% chance of rain and rain all morning, it was still very crowded for such a crummy day. Oh well, just thought it would be a decent idea if they ever find a way to implement it.

[Bob O]

I think SFGAM has little concern for there guests, so they dont implement a single rider line, and if one wants to blame it on money, it would have been easy to install one for TDK as it is a new ride, but they chose no to do so.

And IMHO they should encourage re-rides if no one is in a seat that had been occupied, instead they perfer to run rides with many empty seats that should be filled with happy guests.

Of course filling empty seats/having single rider lines and letting people re-ride when its possible might hurt there fastlane sales which SFGAM cares alot more about than guests getting alot of rides in with as small a wait as possible. Of course if you give SFGAM more money they will then help to reduce your wait times, if not they have little concern for your wait as you watch a ride leave the station with numerous empty seats..

[wishman35]

I think SFGAM has little concern for there guests, so they dont implement a single rider line, and if one wants to blame it on money, it would have been easy to install one for TDK as it is a new ride, but they chose no to do so.

And IMHO they should encourage re-rides if no one is in a seat that had been occupied, instead they perfer to run rides with many empty seats that should be filled with happy guests.

Of course filling empty seats/having single rider lines and letting people re-ride when its possible might hurt there fastlane sales which SFGAM cares alot more about than guests getting alot of rides in with as small a wait as possible. Of course if you give SFGAM more money they will then help to reduce your wait times, if not they have little concern for your wait as you watch a ride leave the station with numerous empty seats..

well i totally agree, let alone I have spent PLENTY of money at SFGAm on season passes, parking passes and gold flash passes alike. i understand nobody will care but whats the big deal of filling in a few seats.

its just absurd seeing so many empty seats. arent they supposed to be hitting capacity benchmarks?

[saylorman47]

I did that on V2 and no one yelled at me.
It was the last ride and I had just gotten off but the guy in my row had an open seat, so I just hopped back on!

[wishman35]

I did that on V2 and no one yelled at me.
It was the last ride and I had just gotten off but the guy in my row had an open seat, so I just hopped back on!

im not saying i cant get it all the time, it all depends on if the ride ops are watching or not.

Ive never tried it on V2 because personally i cant handle riding it consecutive times, i may have but i dont usually want to. once is enough.

but Batman, i got away with once yesterday then tried it right after for a 3rd time and the guy caught me and told me no. makes no sense but whatever. But Bull has the biggest sticklers of all, honestly if someone in that station could put a smile on their faces it would be a miracle. At least most of the rides people have some personality. The same bigger lady works Bull and she didn't come off as very nice when i tried to talk to her.

[kumba830]

On batman I've re-ridden it about 6 times in a row in some cases. I just ask the operators if its ok ... and if there is no one in line for a row when our train gets back ... Me and my friends just hop back on!

[BP317]

its just absurd seeing so many empty seats. arent they supposed to be hitting capacity benchmarks?

The only way to fix the empty seat problem is to staff groupers which they only do on Viper, TDK, and Iron Wolf if the Lo-Q employee is grouping (and they dont add a grouper to fill the seats at Viper they do it to control the crowd in the station). The last week I was working they did staff groupers at SUF, Bull, and Batman but they were tests I dont know if they kept those around or not.

[Moo]

I would fully support the addition of single rider lines.

I mean, how could putting coaster enthusiests, people who are mad at their pansy friends that won't ride with them, and sexual predetors in a singular line together not be the most awesome grouping of people ever?

Lol I just had to post it.

[wishman35]

On batman I've re-ridden it about 6 times in a row in some cases. I just ask the operators if its ok ... and if there is no one in line for a row when our train gets back ... Me and my friends just hop back on!

yah i am not talking about an empty station... they dont object to that.

i am saying that with a full station and there are 2 or 1 empty seats left and they refuse to allow someone to fill in the seat.

[JordanSDMF]

Yeah, I think re-riding is chill as long as the situation is ok. You know, open seat, etc. I think they won't want a single rider line, because it's obvious little people are respectful and trustful at theme parks, and all of the kids will think they are bad ass, and act like they are alone, and go in the single rider line to get on quicker. That's actually probably not why, but wherever I went with a single rider line, I saw that going on.

I was on Journey to Atlantis in Sea World Orlando, and there was a single rider line, and it was obvious which kids weren't a single rider. And one stupid little kid yells at the ride op like, HEY SHES MY SISTER I WANT TO RIDE WITH HER in the single rider line. I was just like.. wow.. you are so stupid.

[Ilovthevu']

I disagree with what you are saying. The single open seats should come from the rows in the station. They could get someone from there instead of having a person that was already on the ride. The problem becomes that more people will want to do what you want to happen, and you will have utter chaos. You also slow down the loading process because you thought that was an open seat, but it wasn't so you have to go searching for another one. They might have to unlock the row even because that's the only open seat or seats on the train, and they are already locked.

[tp41190]

I always try to re-ride. And adding a flash pass would be really easy on Viper and Demon.

Demon, all they have to do is move the wooden fence, they have three rows of que and one of them can be used for flash pass.

Viper, just use one of the three lanes to Hurricane Harbor. Hell, they even have a entry for Flash Pass but they just don't use it.

[DejaVu2001]

^ With Viper, I think they realized that it would not work to have Flash Pass users forcing their way against traffic going up the Hurricane Harbor exit lane. Also, there would be the problem of what happens when Hurricane Harbor is closed for the season (or for that matter, from 10:00-11:00 and 7:00-Close).

As for Demon, they wouldn't need to move any of the existing fences, they would just need to add silver handrails between the top of the stairs and the station to bypass the queues.

Back to the main topic of Single Rider lines, Ragin' Cajun is now using a single rider line. As for other single rider lines, obviously, the 4 B&Ms would be top priority. Raging Bull and Superman would be fairly easy to do by rebuilding/renovating the staircases to accomodate 3 lanes (Front, Regular, Singles) and then staff grouper when the single rider line is open. Batman and Iron Wolf would take some more thinking though due to space constraints.

[tp41190]

For Superman, they don't even need to have that whole park of the stair case to be from the front row. I don't think I have ever seen the line for the front lower the 1/4 from the top. But then again, I have only been on Superman twice this year.

[Jerrykoala2112]

I know they have the single riders are Test Track in Disney World. American Eagle and Demon ops always let me stay on. They should do Single Riders line in Raging Bull and Verticle Velocity. Idk if its just me but each time I go to Six Flags, always more than a 30 minute wait and I go by myself. its a little boring.

[monsterfan99]

Single Rider lines are great, if done right. Someone mentioned EPCOT and Test track. That system works perfect as you are put in to fill the 6th seat in a car. However, when I used it on Cajun this weekend, the ride ops were clueless. My example would be Saturday. This asked a guy how many in his party an he said 4. He was them told you could only 2 people per car and I was put with them. If them can get the Ops to do things right, the system will work great for everyone. But until them, they need to wait to even think to put this in more places in the park.

Thanks

[BP317]

Once again.

Ragin Cajun does NOT put over 3 people taller than 54" in a car due to weight restriction, which is the reason it has a single riders line, so cars can go out with groups of 3 instead of 2 and 2.