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Official Buccaneer Battle/2009 Attraction Thread
^ You do have a good point there, are people in Ohio really going to come to Gurnee to ride a splash battle? No.
poor wolfie rip
 ( hopewe get a neww bm wingrider for next year!11!
Perhaps you misunderstand Six Flags (parent company) & Six Flags Great America's business models, they do not want any Six Flags to be a national destination. The whole point of Six Flags is to cater to the regional population. Cedar Point is more of a national destination because of where it is located, it must draw crowds to survive, it cannot rely on the population of Sandusky. Six Flags Great America on the other hand can rely on the populations of both Milwaukee and Chicago, we're talking 2 major metropolitan areas with over 10 million people combined. Add in the fact that Great America has no real competition we should be glad that we are getting anything at all. Even if nothing was added people would still come, and Great America (unlike many other Six Flags parks) knows how to turn quite a tidy profit on it own. Licensed Mechanical Engineer
I mean it just sounds really stupid, Buccaneer it might as well be kiddie area again seriously.
SF trips 09 = 15
SF trips 10= 11 SF trips 11 =7
How many people wouldn't want to try a new waterpark with brand new attractions for basically the same price it was last year (from 2004 to 2005)? Not only that, but before 2004 the Mardi Gras area was rundown, and people notice stuff like that. In 2004, they renovated that area, and those people could have spread the news that the park isn't as rundown as it used to be. It's kind of like what they did now with County Fair, but that was a little longer than a year for Orleans Place area. I guess we will see if they replace the Splash Water Falls area with anything, or continue to let it rot. I think this waterpark would bring more people than another section in the park. The reason is because you have people going to Great America instead of someplace like Wisconsin Dells. Sure, people can go both, but it's closer over here now. As I probably said before, I really don't think we need another water attraction in the regular park because we have a big enough waterpark, and waterpark attractions aren't open all of the year. During the morning, it's almost pointless to have them open, and also later at night. I would have rather seen a laser shooting ride that would be open all year instead of a water shooting ride. They are all about ride throughput, but yet they choose a water ride over a dry laser shooting ride. "I've been staring at the world, waiting. All the trouble and all the pain we're facing. Too much light to be livin' in the dark. Why waste time? We only got one life. Together we can be the CHANGE. So go and let your heart burn bright"
I totally agree with ILoveTheVu in that the park didnt need a new water attraction. A interactive dark ride would be much more family friendly and would be able to operate year-round in all weather conditions if built in-doors. A water ride in the midwest will be of limited use in the beginning/end of the season and even have portions of summer where it may be too cool for alot of people who will want to get soaked on a water ride.
While a interactive dark ride can be enjoyed by almost every park guests and ridden numerous times in a attempt to beat your own score.
No, I did not misunderstand that. The closest SF parks to us are SFSTL & SFKK. I am talking about more visitors in between. Like, why would people want to travel the 5 or 6 hours when you are going back to the same old park. It will get the outer people as well. Then again, why would people in chicago or south of chicago want to travel the hour or hour and a half with all of the gas prices lately, to go to a park with one less ride, in the fall. I haven't been this year, because after hearing about deja vu, I knew it was going to be the same old thing. And if you think people ONLY from close big cities go to SFGAm, then you are wrong. I have talked to other guests there, and people have come from Minnesota, Iowa, and Indiana. They may not need that, but when they announce that new attraction, EVERYONE says the themselves, wow, I gotta go check that out. And from what you said about Cedar Point, do you think SFGAm relies on the population of Gurnee? No, they rely on Chicago, Milwaukee, just like Cedar Point relies on it's surrounding cities, and Cincinnati, Dayton, Colombus, and Cleveland.
I think in the long run this will neither help or hurt the park. Wonder how they will advertise this next season? Gonna be hard to find a way to make it seem fun for anyone over 8.
P.S. I love how they are saying it will open May 15th, 2009. You know it will probably be a week later with the winter they are forecasting. 13 Years with SFGAm World!
^Agreed
They will probably do something stupid, like.. come and enjoy our amazing rides (shows raging bull, superman, viper, & other rides) And check out our all new BUCCANEER BATTLE FOR THE WHOLE FAMILY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It won't be hard to market this new ride.
They will most likely claim it as an interactive water attraction that the whole family can enjoy. I think it's a great addition. These splash battle rides are starting to pop up. It will be something unique in the Chicago area. I finally retired the Sarah Palin signature because she is now 100% irrelevant.
The fact is when water is involved people flock. How do you think places like the Dells have grown so much within the past decade. People are obsessed with water attractions (the water rides & HH get huge lines) and chances are a new water ride will bring in more attendance than a Sally dark ride. If done right I do think this will be a better addition than TDK though, I never got the idea of building an indoor mouse and trying to makert it as a major thrill ride. At least people will be able to see this and know what their waiting in line for so it will get a better reaction than TDK. Last edited by BP317 on September 19th, 2008, 8:41 am, edited 1 time in total.
^I thought Shapiro put the mouse in the box to hide what it really was, and thus try to fool people into thinking it was a really thrilling ride. That ride was never really geared towards kids. (Look at the preshow, the stuff in the ride, and the fact that the Dark Knight movie was PG-13.) It was geared toward teens, but it flopped and all of sudden it became the family friendly ride.
Mouse coasters are cheaper to build, so build it inside, and hide what it really is. Tons of teens will love it. Right??? "I've been staring at the world, waiting. All the trouble and all the pain we're facing. Too much light to be livin' in the dark. Why waste time? We only got one life. Together we can be the CHANGE. So go and let your heart burn bright"
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A Bucc an eer. hahahah You know I dont mind this. I will not go on it but maybe they put this in because they are planning something bigger and better.
I honestly think that the only one to blame for any bad dissensions that six flags make is you guys who expect too much from a park that you clearly say is running out of money. This is what happens when you know too much about a company. You also see this with wrestling fans called Smarks, they know way too much and can't enjoy the product.
What ever happened to going to Sixflags and just having fun with out B***hing about it? I mean when you were 9 years old did you look at Bugs Bunny land and say " ya know what we need here a 400ft dive machine! " No, you were happy with what you had, Not all parks are the same and have the same rides. Why complain if you wont do anything about it? Six flags doesnt care if you don't like it. Dark Knight almost always has a huge line, I will keep saying this till you guy get it. Six flags is a FAMILY PARK!!! meaning they will make family rides for parents to take their kids on. honestly compare the " max thrill rides" to the family rides what does six flags have more of?
The idea is to make it a major ride that appeals to all audiances. Little kids go on Space Mountain/Expedition Everest and those are the parks major thrill rides. The issue comes in where when the parks major thrill rides are Raging Bull, BTR, etc people are obviousley going to go to SFGAm and ride the new major coaster thinking its going to be of that scale and come off dissapointed (especially with the line the ride generates, people go from dissapointed to pissed off and ive been in that station enough to see that was a common occurance). Add to the fact that the park already had Ragin Cajun so a lot of the kids this ride appeals to get off saying "Its just like Ragin Cajun!" in my opinion it was a good idea and something the park needed but they just werent willing to spend the money to do the job right. Point is it was not intented to be a "only kids will like it" even though for the most part thats what it seems to be. Kids DO like the ride its just a matter of to parents/rest of the family, was it worth the huge line. I really like it and think its fun but I actually know what it is whereas 99% of people waiting in line dont. Buccanner Battle will probably not have this problem unless SF really tanks it. It could be a letdown if its just an ordinary Splash Battle in a pool with some cutouts but if its got some decent theming it will be a great addition. The one thing I find most weird about this announcement is they didnt say whats going in Carousel Plaza which leads me to believe it might not even be next year. It could mean 1: They for some reason will announce it later. or 2: They just put the "Future Site for New Attraction" sign there to shut people up about asking if Shuttle is going to re-open and just let SWF/SSA's spot sit again next year. Last edited by BP317 on September 19th, 2008, 10:10 am, edited 2 times in total.
Since I have not been on a SB ride, or really seen anything about this type anywhere, I'm gonna wait to get on/applaud SFI/SFGAm about the installation of BB. It's an interesting concept as I've said in the Announcement thread. And, with Pirates of the Caribbean being quite the rage these days, and Disney having the rights to it, maybe this is Six Flags trying to capitalize on that trend as well. As long as it's theming is really done well and is maintained at a high level.
I also agree with the 2 posters above me. I wouldn't have minded the MIB thing if they would have tweaked the layout to be more thrilling than just the "hairpin turns" and a couple small drops. More "swooping" up and down would have probably made the ride more fun. But I digress, as the thing is built and all. Push down, then pull up. Exit to your left/right. And, enjoy the rest of your day at Six Flags! Your friendly enthusiast Kyle.
For those of you curious people about the sign by SSA "New Attraction Comming"- a lady from the park's offcie said that for 2009 SFGAm gets splash battle and that's the only ride SF is getting. SO nothing for 2009 in SSA spot.
Six Flags Ameirca as the number 1 park at SFI.... this is JOKE!
I can't believe a stupid ride like this is replacing Vu. It's really disappointing. The whole concept of the ride is just so dumb. It's not even a ride in my opinion. But I'm sure I'll be going on it as my boyfriend loves stuff like that... sigh. That is, if my boyfriend ever wants to go to the park at all since lately he only likes the water park...
This isn't a bad addition for the park, but I think they should have put it over in the waterpark instead, and save that prime location area for future expansion of a major marquee ride. My concern is like others, since it involves water and getting soaked, there's really only about 2-3 months out of the year that people are really going to want to go on it, especially with how cold this summer was. It would be nice to have an attraction that can be enjoyed longer in the season. Scooby Doo Ghostblasters ( like at St Louis and San Antonio) would be a nice addition (perhaps, over by Camp Cartoon), and that could be enjoyed by the whole family all season long in all kinds of weather if they really want some kind of a target shooting family ride.
Interactive much? It should be realized that there will be no where near enough water guns for anyone around that ride. With the millions of ignorant inner-city school groups that come in the spring and early summer, and the hype around the ride...i can only imagine it will be damn near impossible to enjoy that thing as intended. The only plus is that it may deviate some lines from the good rides. Even so, not many people will die to try a ride where you spray people. I know alot who dont want to get wet in the first place.
The one poster about giant drop and the stupid car and boat quarter machine things is right. I will stand by believing that the most hype as a teen that i heard of the park was when rides like Raging Bull, Vu, V2, and Superman came out from word of mouth. Now this whole push towards family style rides is starting to get a bit annoying. If in the next two years a major coaster isn't replaced or built then maybe its time for the thrill seekers to just find alternatives. Including myself. I love this park, but I dont love being around millions of little kids. Six Flags used to seem so big-kidish in my eyes, and now it just looks like a stupid excuse for inpatient parents to drag there screaming annoying kids to the theme park. The waterpark is nice, but how many of us would rather have had that spot dedicated to a whole new coaster area with like 2 or 3 coasters?? Probably most of us except for those who love on flats and water rides and insult our coaster propositions. it IS crowded, it probably IS dirty beyond the surface, but once again it drags in TONS of kiddies with there impatient parents. That is why i do prefer Cedar Point, it just caters to MY style, i just wish it wasn't 5 hours away. Not totally ranting, and dont insult me saying CP is better, but it just is lol
True...but there's only really a total of 2-3 months were the attendance is at its highest (with the exception of fright fest). And during Fright Fest there are so many other rides and attractions to choose from, it is just like SWF. And water rides are always popular as long as it sunny and above 65 degress. I'm sure that people will ride it from Mid-May to September. I don't mind it, I think it is better then SWFs. Not to mention, Vus spot is smaller the SWFs spot. So they are leaving the bigger spot for a new attraction...which I think is better then putting the splash battle where SWFs was. [read]
It is a little weird nothing has been confirmed for that area. Also, why would they put up a sign by SSA if nothing will got there for 09? Something must otherwise why put up a sign two years in advance?
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If BB was able to easily change the water cannons with lasers, they could run it the whole season.
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i dont know if this was posted earlyer in the thread but on MACKs website they show a pirate themed splashbattle.
http://www.mack-rides.com/lang-en/c130/default.html Its the 3rd picture down on the left, if the theming is like the pictures i think it will be a pretty good ride, theme wise. But i hope sf doesnt cheap out on the theming like the dk.
The Deja Vu area is not big enough to make this ride really work. Deja Vu was pretty small in terms of length. I don't see it. I'm sick of them always picking MACK rides.
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