Official Buccaneer Battle/2009 Attraction Thread

[diggerg56]

Regarding HH and expansion there. There has been some talk that in conjunction with adding to HH that it will revert to a seperate gated (and admission) attraction. I know that's been mentioned before but I specifically heard a couple ride mechanics talking about it on Sunday.

[acm21]

If they add that stupid splash battle thing in Vu's spot, it would seem more sensible for the thrill seeker to take the 4 hour drive to cedar point, and just sit and watch six flags become the new kiddieland.

[demonbulleagle]

I agree, when you think SIX FLAGS you think one thing usually, ROLLER COASTERS, not Thomas Town, or Wiggles World, we have enough kiddie areas, if they keep building more, the thrill seekers will leave, and I saw on a diffrent site, "Shapiro has elucidated this point to "The Wall Street Journal" in an August 4, 2008 article. Commenting on "Goliath" at Six Flags Over Georgia, Mark feels major installations don't provide any return on investment. He further stated attractions like "The Dark Knight" and "Tony Hawk's Pro Skater" are successful, as well as the future direction of the company. GCI coasters will be the lone exception."

[FParker185]

so the real question is, if they put in this splash battle, will everyone here that is moaning incessantly about it still visit the park next year? If so, then it must not really matter that much to you, so stop complaining. And if you don't go, then more power to you.

Also the point is to drive out the thrill seekers, aka teens who have nothing better to do than show up, not spend a cent, eat outside the park and vandalize everything they can get their hands on. And attract back families that spend alot of cash to enter and stay in the park.

[onyxhotel08]

um the young people are usually the ones who spend tons of money on flash passes, games, and help spread the word on new attractions and you can't beat graduation visits and all those teens/young adults who love going to Hurricane Harbor. How many teens actually vandalize the park? What are you talking about? How many people actually leave the park just for food? Most people don't feel like going all the way to their car and drive somewhere and wait until they get heir food and go back to Great America. Families are usually the ones that refuse to spend money on things they feel are too expensive and unnecessary.

[saylorman47]

^ I would have to agree. I would consider myself a teenager who visits the park on a regular basis. I have never gone outside of the park to eat. When I go for full days with my friends, we eat breakfast before, and lunch and dinner in the park. We play games. We get flashpasses. I will have to agree about the vandalism though. It's getting pretty obnoxious. Think about this, you drive out all the "teens", wouldn't the park turn into a Kiddieland? How many people between the age of 12 and 21 visit Kiddieland?

[Jackluver18]

^ I said before I won't go again if our park becomes Six Flags Kiddieland, that's just retarded. I get Shaprio wants families but adding yet another kiddie area will make things ten times worse, we don't need another one. Wiggles was enough trust me.

[Jcoaster95]

Today at Great America, I saw a crane with a pirate flag on it and a tropical looking sign that said "come ashore with us in 2009" where DejaVu was. We are most likely to get a water ride next year. But how will a Splash Battle connect under/over the midway? I hope we get something more like journey to atlantis (Olando version) or Jurrasic Park.

[coasterkidd100]

Didn't somone say that a ride was going to connect Vu's and SWF's spots together. I think it was somwere in the What should replace DeJa Vu and SWF thread.

[demonbulleagle]

vandalize everything they can get their hands on

I have never vandalized anything in the park, and if i see something i can fix, i do, every time i see trash laying on the ground i pick it up and put it in the trash, and the reason people are eating outside the park is that if they are teens they would have parents drive them usualy, and they don't have well paying jobs so we can't spend as much money as familys that come to the park!

[coasterkidd100]

I have never vandalized anything and I don't see a lot of vandalizem when I am there. But there is a lot of trash laying around somtimes.

[FParker185]

Well, SFGAm is a bit of an exception to the rule. And we all are in the minority. Also I really dont care.

But I have noticed no one has said anything about the first part of what I said.

Come one, someone has to keep whining and moaning about whatever we get, and keep the idea that the harder you complain, the more SFGAm will get the urge build to build the gigantic, financially unfeasible hyper/giga/terra/looper coaster you oh so desperately want.

[RBull4life]

and the reason people are eating outside the park is that if they are teens they would have parents drive them usualy, and they don't have well paying jobs so we can't spend as much money as familys that come to the park!

BAM!!!! In a way, you made FParkers point.

It's all about bringing families into the park.

Great America is not going to become the next Kiddieland for Christ sakes. Cedar Point has 3, now 4 with the one they just built, kids sections. Great America has 3. Lets not forget, to all and moaners complaining about stupid family rides, what was taken out for Deja Vu. What was almost taken out for Superman. A new thrill ride might take the place of SSA. Oh, another family ride gone. Lets not forget Splashwater Falls.

Now, I am one that never posts anything heard from park employees concerning new rides, mainly because I never ask them because I know they won't know squat. For the hell of it, I asked an employee, ok....an employee that I was talking to in Sky Trek Tower, if he knew what was going in place of SSA, Deja Vu, and Splashwater Falls. To his credit, he didn't know what type of ride they were going to be, so he didn't blurt anything out of his mouth. He told me he didn't even think his supervisor knew what kind of ride it would be. He did say that some type of high thrill ride was going in place of SSA, and a water attraction would bridge the gap between SWF, and Deja Vu's former locations. Take it for what it's worth. Hold it in value as you would a piece of toilet paper that you just used to wipe your *** with.

[BP317]

Its a matter of making it worth the money for families to visit. If SFGAm is firing on full cyclinders it could be a great family park, but in order for that to happen they need to have everything open and unfortunately for families that decide to go when attendance is low and GAm goes into "budget mode" its hard justify paying as much as it cost for a low product.


Anyway, I think expanding HH will be a good addition to the park even though I never really go to waterparks. Fact is waterparks are huge money makers and HH is the best money SFGAm has ever spent so expanding it is well overdue. It wouldnt surprise me if they built a new entrance but they wont make it a seperate admission. Never been on a Splash Battle (when I went to IB it was closed and looked really stupid to say the least) but if Mack makes them fun then more power to that, its really all about the capacity though. If they want more families its time to make some higher-capacity headlining family rides.

^ roller soaker sucks.... really bad

(good thing they are removing it for a wave pool)

I found it strange that Hard Rock, a park that said they could handle 30,000 a day, built one of these and its their only water ride and it has terrible capacity.

[saylorman47]

I think that RBull4Life makes a great point and we should leave it at that.

[demonbulleagle]

So something high thrill in the SSA spot, something like Steel Hawg would fit there. right?

[demonbulleagle]

I was looking at some websites and I came across this http://www.screamscape.com/iaapa/html/iaapa_8.htm this looks like it could fit in the SSA spot.

[Jackluver18]

^ Ooo that looks kinda cool and interesting, if we get a water ride by SWF and Vu that connects that would be really cool too, great now I can stop worrying about kiddie areas, that makes me happy

[SheiKra13]

A ride like that actaully looks fun.

I would be happy with that.

[saylorman47]

That also looks like Shapiro would think about attracting families with that. It's small and packs a big thrill, sort of like THBS.

EDIT: Looking at this again, why didn't SF just use this for The Dark Knight? The launch could be like the hallway with the ha has and other better scenery around the MCBR and other places. I know I would have loved the ride a lot more if it was like this!

[coasterkidd100]

I hope we get somthing like that in SSA's spot, it looks like a family ride and a thrill ride. It would be cool!

[demonbulleagle]

That also looks like Shapiro would think about attracting families with that. It's small and packs a big thrill, sort of like THBS.

EDIT: Looking at this again, why didn't SF just use this for The Dark Knight? The launch could be like the hallway with the ha has and other better scenery around the MCBR and other places. I know I would have loved the ride a lot more if it was like this!

That could be cool for TDK, and instead of having the launch be a hallway, it would be a subway station.

I found a youtube video of a diffrent model,http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TbZ6qTlPfI

[coasterkidd100]

^ It looks pretty cool, but I would rather have a loop then a corkscrew.

[SheiKra13]

So that maybe in SSA's spot? Splashbattle in Vu's. Whats going to SWF's grave?

[coasterkidd100]

^ Maybe nothing for the 09 season. Maybe they will wait until 2010 to put anything in that spot.