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Postby Mr. SFGAm on February 4th, 2007, 7:18 pm
zjohn1988 wrote: It is a good spot for a dark ride. Also Camp Cartoon Network could be expanded.


I was waiting for someone to say it.
Knowing that Shapiro is trying to re-direct the park more towards families, I think that if anything were to replace Iron Wolf, it would most likely be a Camp Cartoon Network expansion, and/or a dark ride.
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Postby gadvfreak99 on February 4th, 2007, 11:08 pm
This park can use a floorless.
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Postby [jonrev] on February 4th, 2007, 11:19 pm
I highly doubt that'll happen.
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Postby forddude1416 on February 5th, 2007, 4:49 am
gadvfreak99 wrote:This park can use a floorless.


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Postby demon boy on February 5th, 2007, 7:51 am
Inverts and flying :lol: And to that, floorless is a whole different expierience becuase your feat are right by the track.
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Postby zjohn1988 on February 5th, 2007, 12:04 pm
If a floor-less is ever installed, I believe it would take the place of Demon.
Yes theres other spots, but I doubt they'd install a compact floor-less coaster. Whizzer has a lot of room, but a floor-less wouldn't look right there and a good chunk of land would stay untouched without easy access to for other things. The Loggers area is another spot, but again, I could eventually see this area being filled and covered and used for expansion of other attractions instead of again using the spot for a floor-less and then having land unaccessible.
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Postby RagingBullFan on February 5th, 2007, 1:00 pm
If you look at things in the category of "It just isn't what it used to be" you can easily see what ride may be removed next.

Demon isn't one of those. Nor is Iron Wolf. Unless something major happens those rides will stay.

Rides deteriorate with time, especially when in very hash conditions. There comes a time when a ride will be removed because the costs of running it and its waning popularity make it not worth repairing. Demon & Wolf still host a very large number of riders to justify any repairs.
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Postby Galvan on February 5th, 2007, 1:41 pm
^ You might beat around the bush here, but Im going to flat out say what I think you where trying not to say.

American Eagle would be the ride removed for another ride in the future, I love the ride, and Id hate to see it be removed, But like all good things, It will face its end. And unfortunately with Eagle, it will be sooner then later.
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Postby forddude1416 on February 5th, 2007, 1:50 pm
okay i have to disagree with that. the lines for american eagle are always long, it still holds 2 records, its very unique in its design, it is a wonderful family ride. I really doubt the eagle will have his wings clipped.
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Postby Galvan on February 5th, 2007, 3:12 pm
Regardless if it holds 15 records, If the ride is a problem for maintence and is costing too much for upkeep the can bet the farm Six Flags is going to remove it.


Think about it this way, If you owned a Corvette, and it was a great car, It was fast and just a great car, BUT the car was in the shop 3 days a week and it was costing you 2,000 a shot everytime you needed repairs done on it, Yeah you still got a vette but there comes a point where its too costly.
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Postby RagingBullFan on February 5th, 2007, 4:03 pm
No, it definitely will not be American Eagle. It still keeps tons of riders.
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Postby TonyMichaud on February 5th, 2007, 4:09 pm
Never stopped to think about the Eagle being the one to go next. Kinda sad if you ask me. But yeah, I agree wholeheartedly that it will eventually go. When this happens we better get something ridiculous back there in that huge plot of land.

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Postby Trailblazer Tony on February 5th, 2007, 5:52 pm
RagingBullFan wrote:No, it definitely will not be American Eagle. It still keeps tons of riders.


Well, now i can't tell if you are refering to Deja Vu or American Eagle. So here are my opinions on both. Isn't Vekoma a pretty good producer of family coasters?! Maybe they could get a discount on placing a kiddy coaster in Deja Vu's spot if they inform Vekoma of their failure! :) As for Whizzer, removing it would be a hard one not only in the eyes of the public, but in the eyes of Shapiro. Whizzer, minus it's age and painful maintenance, is the quintessential Shapiro ride in that it appeals to all crowds. If it were to go, you better bet that they would have something similar coming to aid to Whizzer's crying fanbase (and you better bet i'll be signing the petition again!). So both have decent outcomes from their removals that could be good for the park and the "family plan."

However, on that note, both rank in my top 5 at the park and both would make me upset to see go, so I hope you are wrong on this one RagingBullFan!
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Postby Chitown on February 5th, 2007, 7:38 pm
RagingBullFan wrote:If you look at things in the category of "It just isn't what it used to be" you can easily see what ride may be removed next.

Demon isn't one of those. Nor is Iron Wolf. Unless something major happens those rides will stay.

Rides deteriorate with time, especially when in very hash conditions. There comes a time when a ride will be removed because the costs of running it and its waning popularity make it not worth repairing. Demon & Wolf still host a very large number of riders to justify any repairs.


Well, you have me stumped Kyle. You say it isn't Demon, Iron Wolf, or American Eagle. Yet, based on crowds, Whizzer is still popular so I don't see that one going either. Other then those 4 coasters, I can't think of any others in the park that would be in the "it just isn't what it used to be" category.
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Postby zjohn1988 on February 5th, 2007, 7:57 pm
Cant just give it away 8)
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Postby CoasterCrazy1657 on February 5th, 2007, 8:12 pm
honestly i don't think that we're gonna get a new coaster in the up comming 2 years maybe even 5
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Postby CoasterDude12-2 on February 5th, 2007, 8:16 pm
The next new coaster I'm assuming will be geared toward families no doubt. I don't think SF would put in something big enough to replace American Eagle if it were to bite the dust (or wrecking ball). I doubt any new coaster in the SF chain will break the 150ft barrier under Shapiro.



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Postby Director_Guy on February 5th, 2007, 10:14 pm
Oh! Oh! Is it V2?
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Postby RagingBullFan on February 5th, 2007, 10:26 pm
I'm not really at liberty to say much more on this topic but here's some things to remember.

First, as mentioned earlier Shaprio is wanting a greater focus on families but that doesn't mean he's going to rip everything out to make families happy. He realizes that coasters do play a part in the Six Flags business plan but he feels that most parks have plenty of coasters that just need lots of TLC.

Secondly, don't focus on the thrill ride aspect. There are many areas of the park that can be improved without having to add a new "Bench : The Ride".
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Postby Chitown on February 5th, 2007, 10:56 pm
I thought you were referring to just coasters.

If you mean all rides, then the list can be quite lengthy.
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Postby BP317 on February 6th, 2007, 3:45 am
RBF I know what you mean and im glad they're finally taking that POS out after this season or sometime in the near future. Thats prime land right there for a large scale really nice family attraction.
Unfortunatley this means I have to ride it again this year :evil:....wow I hate that thing, even worse the only time its worth riding is when its got a long line.
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Postby forddude1416 on February 6th, 2007, 5:40 am
What the crap? Why are we all talking like the park is going to be leveled? Seriously people, this is just all speculation.
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Postby UWW-10 on February 6th, 2007, 9:24 am
I don't understand how everything thinks they "Know" what's happening...in my opinion with Shapiro around, it's anyone's guess as to what he plans to do.

Let's worry about what happens now and let the future be up to Shapiro/park management.

EDIT: My guess for removal would be HTFM. I Always see people pass it up because they don't know it's there and there's never a line.
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Postby Galvan on February 6th, 2007, 1:22 pm
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Postby zjohn1988 on February 6th, 2007, 6:17 pm
UWW-10 wrote:I don't understand how everything thinks they "Know" what's happening...in my opinion with Shapiro around, it's anyone's guess as to what he plans to do.

Let's worry about what happens now and let the future be up to Shapiro/park management.

EDIT: My guess for removal would be HTFM. I Always see people pass it up because they don't know it's there and there's never a line.



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