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Postby Papas on April 21st, 2004, 7:34 am
On the Raging Bull page it says worlds first hyper twister coaster, which would be Fujiyama.
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Postby SFGA Bob on April 21st, 2004, 7:41 am
not if Togo or the park didn't promote it as such.
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Postby CoasterDave316 on April 21st, 2004, 4:31 pm
That's what the press release says for Raging Bull, it's just a marketing phrase. Fujiyama, was never promoted as a Hyper-Twister. And Raging Bull technically was B&M's first Hyper-Twister Roller Coaster, so it is correct.
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Postby Adix on April 21st, 2004, 10:29 pm
Papas is right, but the mistake isn't your fault... and it really doesn't matter anyway. And it's a great ride, records or not :)
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Postby TwistedSTEEL666 on April 22nd, 2004, 9:42 am
Adix wrote:Papas is right, but the mistake isn't your fault... and it really doesn't matter anyway. And it's a great ride, records or not :)
I agree with you.

Although Fuji was before RB's time. Fuji doesn't have anything on RB, besides Fuji is painful(rough) I believe.

Not the case with a B&M Hyper-Twister!
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Postby Papas on April 23rd, 2004, 7:19 am
Hey, the facts are there.
SFGAm's marketing can say whatever they want, but go ask them what a 'hyper twister' is and they will say a coaster over 200 feet with a twister layout.
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Postby Great America Guy on April 23rd, 2004, 9:15 pm
However Apollos Chariot at Busch Gardens opened before Raging Bull
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Postby Papas on April 23rd, 2004, 9:17 pm
That's an out & back has nothing to do with this topic.
Even though it's a good ride :).
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Postby sixflagsguy5 on April 25th, 2004, 11:36 am
That's an out & back has nothing to do with this topic.
Even though it's a good ride .


Apolos Chariot isnt an out and back. Its a hyper-twister i thought. Same with Nitro.
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Postby w00dland on April 25th, 2004, 11:48 am
It is a hyper twister style roller coaster by B&M, but it has an out and back layout.

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Postby InsaneNewman on May 11th, 2004, 11:33 pm
Hmmm.... that lift looks familiar. :lol:
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Postby CoasterDave316 on May 12th, 2004, 12:08 am
Papas wrote:Hey, the facts are there.
SFGAm's marketing can say whatever they want, but go ask them what a 'hyper twister' is and they will say a coaster over 200 feet with a twister layout.


In the newspaper article I have from when Raging Bull opened they described a Hyper Twister Roller coaster as a coaster over 200 feet that has more curved track then straight track.
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Postby Max on May 30th, 2004, 11:15 pm
To clear things up...

Fujiyama was the first hyper twister, even if Fuji-Q didn't promote it to be that.

AC is clearly an out-and-back, The only real twist is the helix turnaround

Nitro is an "L" shaped out-and-back, not a twister, again, the only twisting part is the helix.
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Postby rctfan1556 on May 31st, 2004, 12:48 pm
Max wrote:Fujiyama was the first hyper twister, even if Fuji-Q didn't promote it to be that.


So RB is not the world's 1st hyper twister rollercoaster?
This is where I would usually put stuff. Can't think of anything right now... =/
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Postby Papas on June 1st, 2004, 11:23 am
The way SFGAm markets it yes, the way SFGAm describes what a hyper twister is, no ;).
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Postby SIC COASTER on June 1st, 2004, 4:41 pm
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Postby Aero737 on June 1st, 2004, 10:17 pm
I second that Tom. Let's just let it be. It's not harming anyone or anything.
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