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Postby LaTiNoObSeSeDSFGAm on January 21st, 2006, 3:17 am
Now that Six Flags Great America is basically turning into a family orientated park...there should be more security and safety along ride lines. Well because if this park is suppose to attract families, I highly doubt that a mom or dad will not like to have a someone cut in front of them and then start arguing in front of their kids. Why? I saw this twice once last year and once this year...This year was in Fright Fest when a girl just started to cut everybody then this guy in his thirties started to wouldnt let her pass and they got into this huge argument. I think SFGAm should have better security even though I know the issue about not enough employees. But think about it, if a family gets into a fight with people cutting and no security to watch and handle the situation, most likely the family wouldnt return.

O yea...when I worked there in the summer of 2005, there was a huge fight ( literally ) in the line of Viper, they had to get security and everything for that. That is not a family enviorment.

in my opinion...they should have secuirty in the lines sitting on lifegaurd chairs ( somewhat they had in the Marriott days ) I read it somewhere that they used to do that but I cant find it. If they do this, then people will stop cutting and less fights happening. Now the security in the park is real good but I just think that they should have better safety inside the lines in the major attractions all the time like Raging Bull Batman water rides etc.
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Postby msoeagle on January 21st, 2006, 8:59 am
yeah, I HATE HATE line cutters. These people in the line for viper were in front of us and threw their crap over the fence jumped down and got it and walked to the head of the line.
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Postby Galvan on January 21st, 2006, 10:26 am
I can see your point that since Six Flags is looking to be more of a family enviroment, that people would want security in such in lines. etc.

Sadly, thats probably not going to happen.

The costs which is basically a factor in everything would be way too high and thus not able to happen.
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Postby zjohn1988 on January 21st, 2006, 10:41 am
^I have a feeling security will be getting much better. They have been the past few years and I dont expect that to end.
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Postby FRD714 on January 21st, 2006, 10:43 am
Yea, I agree. Security is very low. I never even see them anywhere.
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Postby zjohn1988 on January 21st, 2006, 10:45 am
^ There was always one stationed at Bull on busy days, and almost every day security would walk along the whole line every few hours.
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Postby FRD714 on January 21st, 2006, 10:59 am
I only go once a year so thats why I dont see them.

There should be one stationed at all of the coasters and they should always be walking along the lines.
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Postby CoasterDude12-2 on January 21st, 2006, 11:11 am
I sure hope security gets better this year. With all the extra revenue they're getting from raising ticket prices, they could afford a larger staff.

Not to say ticket prices will definatley increase. Although it is very likely.
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Postby diggerg56 on January 21st, 2006, 2:56 pm
coasterdude12-2 wrote:I sure hope security gets better this year. With all the extra revenue they're getting from raising ticket prices, they could afford a larger staff.

Not to say ticket prices will definatley increase. Although it is very likely.


I read an article posted on a another board that SF Corporate was thinking about outsourcing all the security rather than doing it in house. They seemed to think they could get more coverage for less money that way.
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Postby Rusty888 on January 21st, 2006, 4:37 pm
I know this would never happen, but I think they should people who wait in line and are like regular people and they get to catch them and ride the ride when the get to the station (so there cover isn't blown, of course :lol:). Think of how fun of a job that would be, riding rides and catching line jumpers, it's like the theme park goers dream job! 8)
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Postby slk8189 on January 21st, 2006, 4:41 pm
^ where do I sign up for that job? :lol:
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Postby zjohn1988 on January 21st, 2006, 5:20 pm
Rusty888 wrote:I know this would never happen, but I think they should people who wait in line and are like regular people and they get to catch them and ride the ride when the get to the station (so there cover isn't blown, of course :lol:). Think of how fun of a job that would be, riding rides and catching line jumpers, it's like the theme park goers dream job! 8)


Thats Loss Prevention, to an extent.. They do go dressed as guests and ride and do things, but theyre going after empoyees instead...for example, if they get a report about an employee possibly stealing at rides, they'll go as a guest say they found a wallet on the ride and give it to the ride op. 10 minutes later theyll come back for that same wallet. They know how much cash was put inside it and if anything is missing, that employee is gone. As an employee you always have to watch your back because you never know who will be watching you...
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Postby LaTiNoObSeSeDSFGAm on January 21st, 2006, 9:58 pm
Yeah people would come by and judge how you were communicating and working
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Postby FRD714 on January 21st, 2006, 10:23 pm
Thats Loss Prevention, to an extent.. They do go dressed as guests and ride and do things, but theyre going after empoyees instead...for example, if they get a report about an employee possibly stealing at rides, they'll go as a guest say they found a wallet on the ride and give it to the ride op. 10 minutes later theyll come back for that same wallet. They know how much cash was put inside it and if anything is missing, that employee is gone. As an employee you always have to watch your back because you never know who will be watching you...

Wow, thats interesting.
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Postby zjohn1988 on January 21st, 2006, 10:47 pm
Its scary sometimes cus they put you in situations to see how you handle them. They then sometimes report back to managers.
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Postby twixmix0303 on January 22nd, 2006, 12:23 am
I've never felt that my "safety" was compromised while waiting in any line, ever. If that's the case, do the smart thing, just leave and tell someone that can do something about it.

As I've always said, "feeling unsafe is just being uncool" ;)
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Postby LaTiNoObSeSeDSFGAm on January 22nd, 2006, 5:01 pm
But the problem is people shouldnt line cut in the first place and like seriously if they want SFGAm to be like Disneyland do they allow line cutting in disneyland or Cedar Point.

O ya I havnt heard anything on development on scenery what do you think will do with that?
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Postby Gangsta Fruit 26 on January 22nd, 2006, 6:52 pm
I hate line cutters. I've never seen them but I would be so mad if somebody cut infront of me.
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Postby twixmix0303 on January 22nd, 2006, 10:39 pm
LaTiNoObSeSeDSFGAm, there is a HUGE difference between line cutters and personal safety. Seriously, don't do anything stupid like try to handle line cutters yourself. All that does is escalate and start fights. Go find someone that works there, tell them, and the line cutter will be dealt with by security. Same goes for smokers, etc.
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Postby [jonrev] on January 22nd, 2006, 11:01 pm
Some old lady got killed at Wicked Twister a few years ago when she tried to stop line jumpers. Let security handle it.
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Postby LaTiNoObSeSeDSFGAm on January 22nd, 2006, 11:06 pm
ok before you guys get your little attitude with me I think you need to re read my post what I said about secruity...I said that Security should be in the lines ( like get life gaurd chairs like they did in the Marriott days...I read somewhere ) so they can deal with line cutters and nothing would happen. I never said that the guests should deal with them...what your saying is just what im talking about haha!!!

And about the wicked twister...how did the lady die where and when was this?!
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Postby twixmix0303 on January 22nd, 2006, 11:09 pm
You said "there should be more...SAFETY along ride lines." There is no queue at Great America that is unsafe unless you let it be (i.e. taking part in fights).
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Postby mschulz5 on January 22nd, 2006, 11:20 pm
Jon Revelle wrote:Some old lady got killed at Wicked Twister a few years ago when she tried to stop line jumpers. Let security handle it.


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Postby [jonrev] on January 22nd, 2006, 11:21 pm
Ok, she wasnt killed but she and her kid got beaten up by linejumpers.
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Postby FRD714 on January 22nd, 2006, 11:37 pm
Line jumpers deserve to die!!!
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