Should Iron Wolf be part of Yukon Territory?

[batman1150]

I think IW should be a part of yukon territory because yukon ter. is forest camping themed and IW is practically in yukon, and besides the name "iron wolf" fits yukon territory because IW has cedar and pine trees all around it and you do find "WOLFS" in the forest. So what do you think?

[sixflagsguy5]

The theming fits, but six flags wouldn't spend time and money to extend the queue out to Yukon.

[Moo]

I think they should, and they should also put Fiddler's Fling in Yukon Territory too. The only coaster, I believe, in Yukon Territory is Spacley's Spocket Rockets. Yukon Territory is dominated by the "kiddy lands" so IW would help the area out. It matches a lot better than the failed proposed Mr. Freeze coaster from a while back too.

[greatamerica2003]

WHY??

The border between the 2 themed lands is the covered bridge. It's been that way since 1976.

I can tell its the offseason. Nice topic.

[SIC COASTER]

So who cares, shouldn't the American Eagle be in Yukon too since Eagles fly in the forest?

[CoasterDude12-2]

I see your point. But why would the queue's be extended to go into Yukon? That's an odd proposal. Maybe they'll update it with some new rides. Too bad Mr. Freeze was disapproved.

[batman1150]

WE WERE GONNA GET A MR.FREEZE!?

[LaTiNoObSeSeDSFGAm]

WE WERE GONNA GET A MR.FREEZE!?

WOW you are so old!!! Anyways why would you change it its been there since the park opened that would be just stupid.

I got a question if you work at SFGAm is it true you are not able to reply in this website?

[Danhockey04]

/\ Yes it is true, if you work at SFGAm, you are not to reply on the forums, or on any forums related to SFGAm

[Ilovthevu']

I think that it would be very easy to change it. You put up a sign, and it's done. Honestly, I think County Fair is too big. I'm in favor of shortening very long territories like County Fair.

So, where do I think County Fair start? Well, I think Am E and Revolution should be the start for the fact that they remind me of an American theme. At that point, you also see a lot of games. I don't see Iron Wolf as either of these. For wolves, I see them living in forests (closer to Yukon Territory).

I really think that theming is meaningless to non-enthusiasts unless it really connects. The only two connections I truly see as connections are Southwest Territory, and now Mardi Gras. Yukon Territory might be close behind it because of a wilderness feeling with not many adult rides.

As for Mr. Freeze, I can probably guess why they decided not to have it (which seems completely stupid). My guess is that they didn't want another Batman ride because then they would have to change the name of the territory to something like "Gotham City."

So, what's the problem? Isn't it obvious? Batman, and so on are not part of America. They have absolutley nothing to do with America. Pop culture is completely dumb. People absolutely don't go to movie theaters, and watch cartoons/televison shows in America. I'm so glad we don't these filthy comic books, and video games!! Okay, that's enough sarcasm for now.

Exploiting yourself is a good thing. Universal and Disney are two that do a great job of this, and are the two top parks. Examples include Hulk, Dr. Seuss, Popeye, Dudley Do Right, Jurassic Park, Mummy, Men in Black, Back to the Future, Snow White, using Star Wars, ABC/Disney show (Millionaire), Bugs Life, Toy Story, Mickey Mouse, Dumbo, and so on.

I would rather have Mr. Freeze than V2. However, I still like V2 a lot.

[coasterinsane]

Wait wait wait... When!? Where!? was this mr freeze going to come into play? Proof?

[Mr. SFGAm]

I thought the Mr. Freeze thing was originally brought up years ago and was originally supposed to replace Sky Whirl in 1998? But at the last second, Six Flags changed their mind, and kept Sky Whirl for a few more seasons.

And I do believe that Iron Wolf would have just fit better in Yukon Territory theme wise.

[DejaVu The Ride]

There would have never been a Mr. Freeze themed ride, it would have been themed to something else.

It was supposed to be added to the location which is now Camp Cartoon Network or the current location of Raging bull.(Which it would have been named Cyclone.)

I can't find the link to an internet article, but this would have meant no Raging Bull if it went into SWT.

[SFGA Bob]

Mr. Freeze was supposed to go in Yukon. its been talked about before on this board and probably any other board that talks about Great America.

as for Yukon/County Fair, I think Iron Wolf would fit better in Yukon, but there a common thread throughout the park that transitions between themed areas occur across bridges so extending Yukon would be a bad idea in my opinion.

[thecoasterguy]

Wow... amazing how many people here don't know about Mr. Freeze...

Back in 1997 / 98, Time Warner loved the idea of coming up with another high-capacity, creative crowd thriller like Batman. Mr. Freeze was going to be that ride -- a launched ride that was a two train shuttle ride with a capacity of more than 1000 per hour. Time Warner installed two of these in 1997 rides -- one in St. Louis and one in Texas.

The problem was that they didn't work at all in 1997. Due to various problems that were plaguing all of the Premier LIM rides at the time, both openings were delayed. Great America was supposed to be getting the ride in 1998. In fact, a Press Release was made from Great America that stated that Freeze was coming to Six Flags. But due to the problems that the other installations were having, Time Warner pulled the idea of removing a working ride to install a potentially non-working ride and sent out news that there was a change and the ride would not be coming.

Rumor has it -- although the press release never announced where the ride would actually be -- that the ride would have replaced what is now Ice Mountain Splash in Yankee Harbor and would have added to the Batman theme already there.

This is just one addition idea that joins in a heap of others that didn't materialize like an entertainment complex, the original idea for the waterpark and so on.

And that is the _real_ story.

[FParker185]

I'll second all that, I was quite looking forwards to the Diving Shuttle and I do remember the newspaper atricles (and the park did in fact get approval from the village for the nearly 240 foot tall tower), but it just wasnt to be with all the issues SF was having with all the other Premeir launched coasters they had bought in 97.

[coasterinsane]

Bummer, I love mr. freeze at six flags st. louis. ITS KILLER. Actualy... I like it alot more than most rides.

[technop]

They wouldnt need to extend any cue lines. Fiddlers flind and iron wolf are right acrossed from each other. so they should just more the Yukon Terr. signage up further. reconfigure iron wolfs entrance. so that they are both part of the territory

[SIC COASTER]

Or how about they change Iron wolfs name then we won't have this problem.

[Ilovthevu']

For Mr. Freeze, I don't think many people would be disappointed it were to arrive at SFGAm. Now, I don't believe they would put in because of V2. I would definitely enjoy both of them.

When I was talking to a SFStL employee a couple years ago, I asked him whether it breaks down a lot or not. He gave me the answer that you would think so, but basically it's not that bad.

SFGAm has had it's problems with D Vu', V2, RC, KC, Revolution, and so on. So, I can't see that as being a great excuse. There seem to be many problems on new coasters just because they are new.

I actually think Mr. Freeze is a better design (when it is used right) than V2. The reason why I say this is because V2 is outside while Mr. Freeze is indoors. If the air conditioning is blasting for Mr. Freeze, the ride will get rid of the warmth heat in the air.

However, the problem I have seen with V2 is that there is no place for the heat to go when the sun is just blasting on it. That's the reason why I avoid it in the afternoon, and it's usually time I hear the sirens go off.

[twixmix0303]

And then it can be advertised as a new ride, so we get better attendance!

(Last minute edit: Sorry, this is a quote for two posts up)

[coasterinsane]

I actually think Mr. Freeze is a better design (when it is used right) than V2. The reason why I say this is because V2 is outside while Mr. Freeze is indoors. If the air conditioning is blasting for Mr. Freeze, the ride will get rid of the warmth heat in the air.

I totally agree. Higher capacity with the two trains and the heat issue.... V2 is the only ride my friends and i get sick on because waiting under the hot sun without any shade dehydrates us and by the time we are ready to get on the ride we are either getting out of line cause someone feels like they are gonna pass out or extremly sick to our stomach.

[Mr. SFGAm]

Now, I don't believe they would put it in because of V2. I would definitely enjoy both of them.

I dont know about that... PKD has three launch coasters. But then again that is Paramount. I do think that Mr. Freeze and V2 could co-exist, just not next to each other. A Freeze type ride would probably be the perfect design to fit between Viper, Whizzer, and Winner's Circle.

[Ilovthevu']

I was just thinking about this, so I would like your guys thoughts. Why are there two areas right next to other with that deal with the same area in the US (New Orleans and Mardi Gras)?

I guess the other thing that bugs me is that SUF and BTR are so far apart. Why aren't these two rides connected somehow? If D Vu' was close to BTR, I would love the park to change the name to something like Two Face. I would change the colors of the track to actually have two colors which would look crazy (purple and white). I'm talking about the track itself, not the rails. However, this would seem stupid because it's so far away from Batman.

[SFGA Bob]

Mardi Gras is part of Orleans. it just has a more specific theme than the rest of the area.