Park Size?

[Cove26flags]

Is Six Flags Great America the biggest SF park besides Magic Mountain?

[rct2wizard360]

That is a good question. It actually might be. SFOG or SFGAdv if nto SFGAm.

[planea380]

Six Flags Great Adventure would be the largest, as it is the Larget Regional Amusment Park.

[Dmrbug]

Per Six Flagsite
The world's largest regional theme park is Six Flags
Great Adventure in Jackson, New Jersey

[FParker185]

Technically I think SFWOA was the largest with well over 1,000 acres owned. I have acre listings for all the SF parks but I'm not sure where it is(it's part of a stockholder annual report I have lying around here somewhere). I do remember SFGAm is one of the smaller SF parks acreage wise though.

[FParker185]

Well hell, just found my report that came the other day, I'll quickly list acreages of the parks (before i head to bed so I'm not late for Media Day)

in alphabetical order

Six Flags America, the 42'nd largest park in the US, park consists of 515 acres with 131 acres currently used for park operations.

SFAW/Splashtown- 36'th largest park in the US, located on 2 sites, SFAW is 100 acres and the waterpark sits on 60 acres (across a highway)

SFDL- 41'st largest park in the US, and park complex is 960 acres 144 acres of park, 242 acres of campground and 593 acres of agricultural and undeveloped and water areas

SFEG- 44'th largest park, 67 acres total all used for the park.

SFFT- 36'th largest park(well that figure now lacks some credibility if you've been reading these closely, I hope that's a typo) 206 acres, all park.

SFGAdv- 18'th largest park, 2,200 acres, 240 acres for the park, 45 for the waterpark, 350 for the safari and 100% of the remaining land is available for future development.

SFGAm(finally)- 23'rd largest park- 440 acres was owned before the land sale park itself is 92 acres (smaller then you all thought, aint it ) says here they have entered into a contract to sell approx 134 acres not utilized in theme park operations, (rest is parking lot)

SFKK- park is 58 acres, none of when is owned, 38 acres is leased from the Kentucky Fair and Expo cneter with condition, rest is leased without conditions, renewal dates for those leases are 2021 and 2049.

SFMM- 19'th largest park, they own 260 acres with 160 acres used for the theme park and 12 for the waterpark.

SFMW-confusing, Marine World is not owned by SF, jut managed by SF with a option to buy the park in 2007, only acreage number i see is 55 acres, but that's just what they pay rent and maintaince fees on.

SFMexico- not in US so it's not ranked, 107 acres, all park.

SFNE- (unranked) 230 acres total, 127 for the park, 12 for a picnic grove and 91 undeveloped acres, all of which are available for future development.

SFNO(unranked)- 140 acres all park

SFOG- 28'th, 280 acres though only 50% is SF's the rest is an investment firms, and in 2026 if they dont renew the lease, they give up all rights to the park (will no longer be SF) (eyes are hurting now, wont list any un-important details, or stuff I hactually have to read to find)

SFOT- 22200 acres, they only own 47 of those though, all but 2 of those acres are the waterpark. and under the partnership structure, SF no longer owns SFOT as they only have 33% of the parks shares, they do own the waterpark though wholly.

SFStL- 39'th, 497 acres, 132 for park operations

SFWOA, was 30'th, 690 acres (I must have been remembering SFGAdv's stats earlier), park and waterpark only occupy 45 acres though.

Enchanted Village- 65 acres

Frontier City- 109 acres, 55 used for the park

La Ronde- 146 acres

Great Escape- 368 acres 143 for the park and only 43 of the remaining acres are suitible for park expansion.

(skips all the waterworld parks)

Wyandot Lake- some Zoo now owns that park, they expect to renew their lease and keep their holdings there til at least 2008

(skips all the Euro parks)

Well there you go, make what you will of it. Time for bed

[Chitown]

"SFGAm(finally)- 23'rd largest park- 440 acres was owned before the land sale park itself is 92 acres (smaller then you all thought, aint it ) says here they have entered into a contract to sell approx 134 acres not utilized in theme park operations, (rest is parking lot)


Actually, I am not surprised that the ride park itself is that small. You have to remember, that we don't have a waterpark.

[planea380]

Why are they selling all our land?I know Six Flags is having Finacal Troubles, but can they not sell some of the bigger parks expansion land?

[SFGAm Shock Wave]

The land they sold off could not realisticly be used for anything that would interest us. The 134 acres sold were across the toll road.

[Papas]

......and there not gonna make a new themed area across a highway .

[planea380]

The point I am trying to get to is, they are pulling a disney(Investment for imediate cash, not for the long run.) What Six Flags need to know is; if they keep on adding new rides to the park, and attendence goes up you run into a problem your capacity reamins the same. A major park like SFGAm services a large area and all expansion room should be saved incase they run into a capacity crisis.

[Chitown]

I doubt they will run into a capacity crisis.

This is a regional park that maxes out at 3 mill a year in attendance.

I wouldn't worry about it.

[da rcman2001]

I knew it would be around that. People who think its 300 acres have either never read about or been to any other theme parks, or are just plain stupid.

I think with the remainder of the land they should rip out the parking for expantion purposes and build a racing intamin hydraulic launch coaster (think chiller meets storm runner or xcellerator) and a water park. Plus tear down the kiddie areas and redo them. Our parks really nice, but lacks in warner brothers theming that creates the whole six flags atmosphere.

[da rcman2001]

I doubt they will run into a capacity crisis.

This is a regional park that maxes out at 3 mill a year in attendance.

I wouldn't worry about it.

I dont think hes talking about loosing attendence. He means the park will become overcrowded and reach maximum capacity.

[zjohn1988]

[planea380]

Another problem: A park can have somemany rides and its capapcity can prevent the park from making profit.


I am not saying that this will happen, but it is something that they need to take account for.

[twixmix0303]

Our parks really nice, but lacks in warner brothers theming that creates the whole six flags atmosphere.

I agree 100%

[planea380]

I think a good addition would be a booming 20's theme with loney toon characters hanging out there.

[rct2wizard360]

Even if the park even does reach capacity they would be more than capable of handleing it. Ad Planea is right, it could have so many rides and the capacity prevents the park from making a larger profit. I know that it can happen and I would'nt be surprised if it ever did happen to a park like CP or SFMM. But more likely CP. Adn rcman we could use some more theming in the kidde areas and around the park. ::cough:: SUF, Yankee Harbor, and kiddie areas ::cough::

[twixmix0303]

Hometown Square

[planea380]

I was thinking a water park addition can be easily fit into the current park. Sneak it behind Whizzer and Viper, there is not alot of room be there is enough for a good water park. I would have the enterance by HTFM and another entrance by the Southwest Territory-Hometown square entrance.


"The Home Town Watering Hole "

[greatamerica2003]

I dont know if I would like too much of the Warner Brothers theme.

You have to remember that the original focus of Great America was to highlight places in North Americas past. New ORLEANS, YUKON Territory, Hometown Square, Southwest Territory, Yankee Harbor, the quintissental rural County Fair.

How do you make a Warner Brothers Movie Backlot fit? I do agree that it can fit into some parks, but not others, like ours that have a well established theme.

[rct2wizard360]

Kiddie Areas? Thats what they are focused on.

[Chitown]

My strong guess is if they do construct a waterpark in the future, it will utilize the existing bus lot. Heck, if they decide to close off the Washington St. access all together, they could easily add water attractions between Eagle and Washington St.

[Danhockey04]

I agree with all of you who said that we need more room for a bigger capacity. They need to build to something in that bus lot and move that in the overflow lot. About getting rid of the kiddy sections, they should keep one of them because the park does attract families with small kids, but to have two of them is unnecessary. A waterpark, a new coaster, or anything that would expand the park to allow a greater capacity because I think that the park will reach its capacity many times this year, especially with its national campaign going on. They could also use that land on the other side of the highway, just build an underground tunnel, but the cost of that would be tremendous. I think that a water park would suit the park best because it would attract more families to come to the park, and therefore create a larger profit.

Anyways, the park still rules!