Deja Vu to LIM (No, this is not a rumor)

[twixmix0303]

For those of you who know a lot about coaster physics, I have a question. Could Deja Vu be converted to a LIM coaster, just like V2? I could probably get up to speed if it was launched backwards out of the station, then get even more speed passing back through the station. They would have to add a second set of LIMs at the bottom of the second tower for something similar to happen. I always thought that would be cooler than the shuttle it is now. It would also make the ride faster increasing capacity per hour.

[sfgam]

it would cost a lot, but i like hanging down on the lift with all my weight on the harness looking on the ground.

[w00dland]

Yeah I think the craziest part of the ride is just hanging there while they pull you out of the station.

[da rcman2001]

WAIT A MINUTE. Did they allready install the LIMs? I rode it on sunday, and noticed that even though the ride still uses the same pulley system, it holds you at the top of the first tower for a little over a second. Is that just the result of six flags and vekome gettting the bugs out of the ride system, or was that LIMs?

[BigBoyEvilBill]

Uh were you kidding? Did you read the post?

[SFGA Bob]

DV did not get LIMs during the off season. if you were held at the top of the tower, it was probably to open the brakes or otherwise prepare the track/train for the drop.

I also like the sensation of hanging from the lift, but they could use the LIMs to move the train a bit faster than the cable could. but it would be so expensive to replace the systems and then operate that it wouldn't be worth it.

plus, think of how often V2 overheats and that has coverings to provide shade. the LIMs on DV would have no such coverings on the vertical towers. DV doesn't need any more intricate mechanisms than it already has.

[Great America Guy]

What does holding on top have to do with LIMs

[SfGaMownz]

LIM's would not help the ride really if you think about it.

There's to much going on in the station already LIM's would just be another thing to break. It takes a whole lot of power to run them and just having them for the length station wouldn't be to much of an increase in speed anyways.

Bottom line, it isn't EVER going to happen.

[Drkstarboard]

I agree. I also (and I think it might just be me being scard my first time) think Deja Vu was faster on its first tower. Then again I only rode Deja Vu twice.

[Iggy ACE]

If Vu were to launch backwards think of all the neck injurys Six Flags would have. Stupidest Idea ever.

[DejaVu28140]

If Vu were to launch backwards think of all the neck injurys Six Flags would have. Stupidest Idea ever.

Six Flags is smart enough not to do that. This discussion is talking about propelling it forward w/ LIM's, not backwards

[Iggy ACE]

I could probably get up to speed if it was launched backwards out of the station, then get even more speed passing back through the station.

Wow very first post but I'm wrong! Sorry!

[NoUseForAName]

Why would it have to launch in reverse? If LIMS can launch a coaster 0-60, it definately could move a coaster 5mph up a spike without too much effort.

[FParker185]

The original Invertigo had LIM's they had to many problems with the system and converted it to a cable lift before it opened to the public (Hangover in Sweeden). I believe I heard DV was oriinally designed with LIM's but on some test setup at the Vekoma Factory it was just as problem plagued as the frist time they tried it and they switched it over to what it has now (probably just as problem plagued as the LIM's)

[RagingBullFan]

The original Invertigo had LIM's they had to many problems with the system and converted it to a cable lift before it opened to the public (Hangover in Sweeden). I believe I heard DV was oriinally designed with LIM's but on some test setup at the Vekoma Factory it was just as problem plagued as the frist time they tried it and they switched it over to what it has now (probably just as problem plagued as the LIM's)

Thank you for posting that! I heard the exact same thing orginally as well. There are still quite a few issues with Vekoma before they can perfect vertical LIM/LSM useage.

[twixmix0303]

Two comments, first of all, the LIMs would be installed horizontally and not on the vertical towers as someone interpreted it. Also, it would be launched slowly out of the station backwards only if need be.

Also, how exactly does V2 launch? Because I thought it used only magnets and the only power needed was that to reverse the polarity. But if it uses the magnetic field generated from the flowing electricity, then yeah, I could see how it uses a lot.

That last post was interesting about how Vu was originally designed to be an LIM coaster. I never knew that.

Thanks!

[rct2wizard360]

You just explained it your self. It uses electromagnets and the electricity generates a magnet field repelling the train in a forward motion. (aka what yu just said )

[NoUseForAName]

Why couldn't LIMs be installed vertically? Look at Mr.Freeze and many other Premier coaster.

[rct2wizard360]

They couldnt be on the transition though. They would have to be completely straight and level.

[SFGA Bob]

you mean like just how the brakes on DV are installed on perfectly straight track? LIMs could go on the curves if someone really wanted to put them there. and if LIMs weren't installed on the vertical towers, it would take a lot of back and forth work to get the train up to speed to get over the inversions. look at V2. even at full power, with LIMs extending at least 100 ft. out of the station, it can barely get half way up the front tower on the first pass with a full load.

[twixmix0303]

Yeah, but V2 has something like 14 rows of seats, while DejaVu is 8.

[coasterfreak11]

I don't know if I am on the same page as you, but for each row on Vu they have four seats. That is if you count 1-a and 1-b as one row. So then if that's the truth, Dejavu can hold 32 passengers while V2 holds 28.

[InsaneNewman]

Length of the train will affect acceleration, though...

[EVOed8]

The original Invertigo had LIM's they had to many problems with the system and converted it to a cable lift before it opened to the public (Hangover in Sweeden). I believe I heard DV was oriinally designed with LIM's but on some test setup at the Vekoma Factory it was just as problem plagued as the frist time they tried it and they switched it over to what it has now (probably just as problem plagued as the LIM's)

You beat me to the punch, Mike.

[da rcman2001]

Why couldn't LIMs be installed vertically? Look at Mr.Freeze and many other Premier coaster.

AND V2. Breaks dont stop it at the top of the second spike, electromagnetic motors/ aka LIMs or LSMs do. Thats why I thought the extra second atop the dv spike were lims added to perfect the ride system.