Tidal_Waver wrote:There’s other stuff that could go first.
Like....?
People would throw a fit if Demon, Whizzer, or American Eagle were on the chopping block and there's not much else that frees significant space. Maybe Roaring Rapids?
When the Survey asked me about what I could do without in the park, Dark Knight and Demon were on the top of my list for Coasters.
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Tidal_Waver wrote:There’s other stuff that could go first.
Like....?
People would throw a fit if Demon, Whizzer, or American Eagle were on the chopping block and there's not much else that frees significant space. Maybe Roaring Rapids?
When the Survey asked me about what I could do without in the park, Dark Knight and Demon were on the top of my list for Coasters.
Demon or Whizzer will go eventually. B&M introducing family coasters as well as RMC changes the game. Penguin Trek or Phoenix Rising make great replacements for Demon
Tidal_Waver wrote:There’s other stuff that could go first.
Like....
The possibilities are endless. Go Karts are first in my opinion as first to go. Little Dipper can be moved to the front or in a refurbished children’s area if needed.
There is no need for 2 Johnny Rockets buildings. And when was the last time Fire Station Pizza actually sold pizza? Maybe demolish it and move Triple Play there to open up a bigger plot.
The whole Mardi Gras area could become something awesome with some moving around. I’d start there for a big addition.
We don't just move roller coasters around like furniture.
Rides like Condor are easy because they're Carnival attractions. While it makes logical sense to move Dipper to a real kids area, it doesn't really make business sense.
Go Karts aren't leaving. Makes way too much money. Everyone that thinks they will remove a cash cow is delusional.
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It was always wild to me that CP got rid of WT but kept Steel Venom & Possessed. I really hope our V2 has a lot of life left to give.
Maybe replace it with a Mack Power loop. Easily theme it to Aquaman, call it Tidal Wave. That would be the ultimate nod to a fantastic classic. But not at the expense of Flash/V2. Idk I'm very conflicted on that. They're similar in style but have striking differences.
I'm very curious to see what the kids area entails. I'd love to see a county fair enhanced theme like CGA got & retheme the kids area completely within that retheme. If you have not seen the signs around the "NorCal County Fair" in CGA, they're so cute & well done. Would love to see that here but obv to say the "Gurnee county fair".
CoastsToCoasters wrote:It was always wild to me that CP got rid of WT but kept Steel Venom & Possessed. I really hope our V2 has a lot of life left to give.
Maybe replace it with a Mack Power loop. Easily theme it to Aquaman, call it Tidal Wave. That would be the ultimate nod to a fantastic classic. But not at the expense of Flash/V2. Idk I'm very conflicted on that. They're similar in style but have striking differences.
I'm very curious to see what the kids area entails. I'd love to see a county fair enhanced theme like CGA got & retheme the kids area completely within that retheme. If you have not seen the signs around the "NorCal County Fair" in CGA, they're so cute & well done. Would love to see that here but obv to say the "Gurnee county fair".
I've wanted one of these ever since I became aware of it!
As for Demon and Whizzer going I think Little Slipper needs to go way before either of those! I could see Demon going for a family coaster like Penguin Trek or Firechaser Express, but I think Whizzer is staying for a while. It's a fan favorite and still gets riders and is very unique!
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Goku1910 wrote:I don't think so, they lost a type of flume ride for Wonder Woman though, don't know what kind, maybe like a Splash Water Falls type?
Don't know what you call that, not knowledgeable on water rides.
I think those are called shoot the chutes
Shoot the chutes are short but super fun! KY Kingdom has an amazing one, as do Kings Island, Busch Gardens Williamsburg and Adventureland (2 separate splash downs!)
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Goku1910 wrote:Go Karts aren't leaving. Makes way too much money. Everyone that thinks they will remove a cash cow is delusional.
I remember before Wrath was announced, I heard some GP saying "That's where they are putting the new coaster" when they were walking by the Go-Karts. I silently chuckled at that sentence. I routinely see people using the go-karts unless it is raining.
rthorat wrote:I agree on getting rid of Kidzopolis. That could be used for a future coaster. Could be the station area of a coaster over by the storage building as pictured elsewhere in this thread. They can also build out in front of Eagle near Washington. I have heard people say there is no space, but there is quite a bit. They only have to stay 50 feet from Washington. As a reference, the small helix near the end is about 60 feet from Washington.
Okay,
This entire cannot build within 50 feet of Washington Street thing that who knows how it got started but, is and has always been categorically false.
CoasterRiderSC wrote:IF the flumes did come out, how about a Mack Rides Water Coaster like Poseidon!?
I generally don't do water rides. Hate getting wet shoes, socks and shirts. Have not done any at SFGAm in literally at least 8 years now. The only time I do them is if they are insanely good or I give into the peer pressure from friends IF it's not a soaker.
Although not the same Mack model as Poseidon, I THOROUGHLY enjoyed Aquaman at SFOT. It was so good I rode it twice! It can get you pretty wet, but it keeps your shoes dry, which should be first priority of what you want to stay dry. The launches have a kick and there's good airtime. I would 100% be on board if we got one to replace some kind of combination of V2 and the flumes. Maybe all 3. That being said, not nearly as hot here in Illinois, so idk...
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CoasterRiderSC wrote:IF the flumes did come out, how about a Mack Rides Water Coaster like Poseidon!?
I generally don't do water rides. Hate getting wet shoes, socks and shirts. Have not done any at SFGAm in literally at least 8 years now. The only time I do them is if they are insanely good or I give into the peer pressure from friends IF it's not a soaker.
Although not the same Mack model as Poseidon, I THOROUGHLY enjoyed Aquaman at SFOT. It was so good I rode it twice! It can get you pretty wet, but it keeps your shoes dry, which should be first priority of what you want to stay dry. The launches have a kick and there's good airtime. I would 100% be on board if we got one to replace some kind of combination of V2 and the flumes. Maybe all 3. That being said, not nearly as hot here in Illinois, so idk...
I must be in the minority I guess, but I found Aquaman boring. I rode it twice to be sure. I’d actually rather ride a log flume or a rapids ride over that. Just didn’t do anything for me. And my guess is that once the new-ness wears off it’ll be as popular as the shoot the chutes rides.
I actually liked Aquaman but it's not as intense as it looks. & I'm with ya Dan about any water rides. When we went to S. Korea, I knew I wanted the credit but I watched The "Giant Splash" with lots of hesitation to see how wet everyone got & when they were selling ponchos, I was like eehhhhhh despite knowing what Aquaman was like [emoji13] I will say I felt like Giant Splash had more punch to it though. I think it would be a great coaster to add along Hurricane Harbor regardless of us talking about it being Aquaman themed in DCU. But I've mentioned how much I'd love a pier or boardwalk expansion to come to the park along HH. but that def went out the window with the new entrance(s).
CoastsToCoasters wrote:I actually liked Aquaman but it's not as intense as it looks. & I'm with ya Dan about any water rides.
Yeah fair I get that you guys like it, I just disagree.
As far as the other point, Great America’s water rides always have lines. I just don’t see the GP being happy with less of them. The dry park needs them.
CoastsToCoasters wrote:I actually liked Aquaman but it's not as intense as it looks. & I'm with ya Dan about any water rides.
Yeah fair I get that you guys like it, I just disagree.
As far as the other point, Great America’s water rides always have lines. I just don’t see the GP being happy with less of them. The dry park needs them.
Thinking outside the GP, removing a Water Flume is dumb anyway, they're classics and like you said, the General Public love them (myself included). I prefer being able to get wet without going into HH, and seeing how Carowinds ans CGA operate without their Flumes is weird too me. Again, i think Thoosies don't see the value in these rides and how much they do for a park.
Old Great America was better, however I hope just a bit of that charm comes back
Thanks for labeling me a Thoosie, also excuuuuuuse me for finding some decrepit water rides in need of replacement. I didn't necessarily state they would be replaced with another Coaster.
You can make comparisons to other parks all you want, but the cold hard truth is that ours are not as well maintained meaning they won't last nearly as long. Cedar Fair may have had other motivations for removing their flumes from say Cedar Point or Carowinds, but it's an eventuality here as well. Rides have a shelf life, whether you like it or not.
The rides I see as at risk at the park overall: -Rapids, due to it's lack of promised refurbishment and accident at other park. - Condor, maintenance headache, could be replaced with something much more popular. Could possibly throw in Rue Le Dodge with this one. - Flumes, Pool leaking, needs constant fiberglass repair. Fiberglass is why it's only half-painted. - V2, Train may need replacing soon, no way Six Flags buys a new train for it. Unless it's drive system dies first. - Demon, Arrow coasters are a dying breed, especially under Cedar Fair Management. - Whizzer, I only put this here because it probably won't last under the new Management. The new ride system will buy it time but it will never run three trains again for part swaps. Ricochet, another old ride with a bunch of downtime. Doesn't swing quite like it used to, either.
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Goku1910 wrote:Thanks for labeling me a Thoosie, also excuuuuuuse me for finding some decrepit water rides in need of replacement. I didn't necessarily state they would be replaced with another Coaster.
You can make comparisons to other parks all you want, but the cold hard truth is that ours are not as well maintained meaning they won't last nearly as long. Cedar Fair may have had other motivations for removing their flumes from say Cedar Point or Carowinds, but it's an eventuality here as well. Rides have a shelf life, whether you like it or not.
The rides I see as at risk at the park overall: -Rapids, due to it's lack of promised refurbishment and accident at other park. - Condor, maintenance headache, could be replaced with something much more popular. Could possibly throw in Rue Le Dodge with this one. - Flumes, Pool leaking, needs constant fiberglass repair. Fiberglass is why it's only half-painted. - V2, Train may need replacing soon, no way Six Flags buys a new train for it. Unless it's drive system dies first. - Demon, Arrow coasters are a dying breed, especially under Cedar Fair Management. - Whizzer, I only put this here because it probably won't last under the new Management. The new ride system will buy it time but it will never run three trains again for part swaps. Ricochet, another old ride with a bunch of downtime. Doesn't swing quite like it used to, either.
Sorry, i just mad with thoosies atm
-I can also see Rapids going, however i don't think the accident at Over Texas is enough to get it removed, so we'll see how the refurb goes - Never considered Condor as a removal but if they do they could put a sky screamer ig. Rule Le Doge not only is a Marriott Original but also conected to the arcade and i think hides backstage stuff so i don't see it getting removed. - Flumes, another one on the fence with all the info given here, however i do think they will sick around because of their popularity, if they do get removed, i hope a modern log flume replaces them that features a turnaround like the current Yankee Clipper Finale. - V2, things done in less than 5 years, calling it - Demon, agreed that Cedar Fair might get it removed, but i can see park management keeping it around as they're very attached to it, Raksasa saved the coaster pretty much - Whizzer, almost died in 2002, dunno how likely they'll try to pull the plug on it again unless the park gets a modern family coaster, even them Whizzer is very uniqe on it's own
Old Great America was better, however I hope just a bit of that charm comes back
